Re: Repeatable panic in current, cause Netscape

1999-09-29 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Vallo Kallaste wrote: The latest -current system crashes while starting up Netscape, mine version is 4.61, Linux one. It's fully repeatable in my case. I got crash dump and here's my dmesg and gdb trace: Make sure that the linux module is as uptodate as the kernel is. As a rule of thumb

Re: Repeatable panic in current, cause Netscape

1999-09-29 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 07:42:50PM +0200, Marcel Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest -current system crashes while starting up Netscape, mine version is 4.61, Linux one. It's fully repeatable in my case. I got crash dump and here's my dmesg and gdb trace: Make sure

Re: -current panic w/linux netscape

1999-09-27 Thread Mike Pritchard
:I finally saw my first -current panic in more than 5 months (not a bad :track record). : :I have a panic that I can duplicate with a 24 hour old "make world" :and a 4 hour old -current kernel. If I run the linux netscape (installed :from ports less than a week ago), the ker

-current panic w/linux netscape

1999-09-26 Thread Mike Pritchard
I finally saw my first -current panic in more than 5 months (not a bad track record). I have a panic that I can duplicate with a 24 hour old "make world" and a 4 hour old -current kernel. If I run the linux netscape (installed from ports less than a week ago), the kernel panics

Re: -current panic w/linux netscape

1999-09-26 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Mike Pritchard wrote: I have a panic that I can duplicate with a 24 hour old "make world" and a 4 hour old -current kernel. If you use the linux module, make sure it's in sync with the kernel. If that doesn't help, either follow Matt's advice or use ktrace/truss. -- Marcel Moolenaar

Re: FreeBSD-current and Netscape Java

1999-07-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
[Hijacked from the freebsd-current mailing list] On Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:46:52 -0400, Bill Pechter wrote: Are there any tricks to getting Java in Netscape running with FreeBSD --current. Just because CURRENT is the platform you use when you encounter a problem, doesn't mean

FreeBSD-current and Netscape Java

1999-07-24 Thread Bill Pechter
Are there any tricks to getting Java in Netscape running with FreeBSD --current. I've suddenly noticed it's not working (tried 4.08 and 4.6 with Fortify 1.4.4 applied and it's no-go even with the classpath set correctly...) Bill --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Three things

Netscape dumps core after XFree86 build

1999-04-12 Thread Kevin G. Eliuk
Hello, On Apr10 I rebuilt the XFree86 Port with aout compatibility libraries running current of Apr04. Immediately following Netscape Communicator would dump core with a bus error. I'm not sure if this is relevant or not, but when it dumps core the core file name is truncated. ca...@vanessa

Re: Netscape dumps core after XFree86 build

1999-04-12 Thread Kevin G. Eliuk
On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: I installed linux-netscape-4.08 and it opens with bus error or signal 10. That should be without -- Regards, Kevin G. Eliuk Box 67, Granthams Landing, BC VON 1X0 (604)886-4040 Discover Rock Solid

Re: Netscape dumps core after XFree86 build

1999-04-12 Thread Peter Wemm
Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Kevin G. Eliuk wrote: I installed linux-netscape-4.08 and it opens with bus error or signal 10. That should be without I've applied Bruce Evans's patch to egcs to work around (yet another

Re: netscape: no recognized font

1999-04-03 Thread Randy Bush
They went away after I nuked all prior traces of Navigator, including my .netscape directory (you should rename it :-) that was it. i cleaned out much of .netscrape and it worked fine. thanks. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current

Re: netscape: no recognized font

1999-04-02 Thread Marc van Woerkom
% netscape no recognized font charsets! 3.1-stable as of today navigator 4.5 freshly installed I had similiar font problems when installing Navigator 4.5 under Solaris 2.6. They went away after I nuked all prior traces of Navigator, including my .netscape directory (you should rename

netscape: no recognized font

1999-04-01 Thread Randy Bush
% netscape no recognized font charsets! 3.1-stable as of today navigator 4.5 freshly installed randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

netscape trouebles

1999-03-06 Thread Alex Le Heux
Hi, For quite some time now Netscape 4.5 has been very unstable on my -current system. I've cvsup'ed and made world many times in the hope the problem would go away. Today I decided to ktrace it, and see where it would stop. Of course it now refuses to crash. Even on java stuff that would crash

Re: netscape trouebles

1999-03-06 Thread sthaug
For quite some time now Netscape 4.5 has been very unstable on my -current system. I've cvsup'ed and made world many times in the hope the problem would go away. Today I decided to ktrace it, and see where it would stop. Of course it now refuses to crash. Even on java stuff that would

Re: Netscape, again

1999-02-15 Thread Alexander Sanda
Chris Tubutis ch...@tci.com writes: whenever I click a mailto: HREF it inadvertly dumps core. Does it truly dump core, or does it merely go away? Can't speak for the original poster, but my Netscrap 4.5 shows the same behaviour: [16]a...@darkstar:/alex #/usr/local/netscape/netscape

Re: Netscape, again

1999-02-07 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 07-Feb-99 Chris Tubutis wrote: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: whenever I click a mailto: HREF it inadvertly dumps core. Does it truly dump core, or does it merely go away? No, it really dumps core. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Wervenjoin #FreeBSD on Undernet asmodai(at)wxs.nl

Netscape, again

1999-02-06 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
OK, found another reproducable coredumper: whenever I click a mailto: HREF it inadvertly dumps core. Now, am I wrong or did Netscape code their mailer in Java? (btw, Netscape 4.5 Communicator) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven It's a Dance of Energy, asmodai(at)wxs.nl

Re: Netscape, again

1999-02-06 Thread Chris Tubutis
Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: OK, found another reproducable coredumper: whenever I click a mailto: HREF it inadvertly dumps core. Does it truly dump core, or does it merely go away? It's a known problem with Communicrasher 4.5 on UNIX platforms that trying to use any of the mail stuff

Snapshots and Netscape

1999-02-04 Thread Kelly Yancey
Just FYI, I don't know if anyone else has experienced this problem or if it was only with 3.0-19990128-SNAP. I found that if you use sysinstall to install a snapshot then you can't build Netscape 4..08 or 4.5 (Communicator or standalone). It dies in vreg (also when trying to start Netscape

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-02-04 Thread Reginald S. Perry
not had a hang since then. So the question is are there known problems with MFS? -Reggie Alfred == Alfred Perlstein bri...@hotjobs.com writes: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Reginald S. Perry wrote: I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Satoshi Asami
* From: Luke l...@aus.org * linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] You can put it anywhere and symlink to it, like sysinstall does now, but it has to be called /compat (or some other well-known place) because of the implementation. The string /compat/linux has to be hardcoded in

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Mike Smith
* From: Luke l...@aus.org * linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] You can put it anywhere and symlink to it, like sysinstall does now, but it has to be called /compat (or some other well-known place) because of the implementation. The string /compat/linux has to be

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Luke: linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] The standard sysinstall has been making a link into /usr/compat for months if not years :-) revision 1.193 date: 1997/07/16 11:45:48; author: jkh; state: Exp; lines: +5 -1 ln /compat to

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Luke: This is 4.5b1 communicator, and locks up X often enough I dont use it. Beta versions of 4.5 were bad (in that case b2 was far worse than b1) whereas 4.5 release is more or less stable. (it still crashes from time to time but not that often). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD:

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Luke
On 28-Jan-99 Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Luke: linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] The standard sysinstall has been making a link into /usr/compat for months if not years :-) Some people haven't used sysinstall for years : E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-28 Thread Luke
but not that often). I think my netscape problem is solved, I installed ports/linux_lib and www/linux_netscape, and so far its working well, even after trying to crash it. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Sheldon Hearn
/Communicator. You haven't had to provide an ISP-grade news or proxy service yet, have you? :-) Ignoring that comment, since I assume you meant I haven't seen an end-user application in..., it _is_ conceivable that the way Netscape keeps track of its cache _does_ mean an inevitable requirement for enormous

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Brian Feldman
or more including NetScape's Navigator/Communicator. You haven't had to provide an ISP-grade news or proxy service yet, have you? :-) Ignoring that comment, since I assume you meant I haven't seen an end-user application in..., it _is_ conceivable that the way Netscape keeps track of its

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:20:14AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me on STABLE? The problem seems to be that those who know

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:02:31AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: If you have Netscape problems, it would be worthwhile to try removing -DVM_STACK from src/sys/compile/BLAH/Makefile and doing a make clean all install. I am pretty certain this is the cause of Netscape crashing, at least

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Brian Feldman
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:20:14AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me

Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
OK, just to re-organise something here: Some people are referring to Netscape (Navigator | Communicator) whereas others are referring to Mozilla (from www.mozilla.org) I think this makes a ton of differences. Also, anyone even bothered to file the communicator 4.5 binary? [r...@daemon] (27

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 27-Jan-99 Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: OK, just to re-organise something here: Might the old communicator still being tied to a.out? This I can answer - all versions of netscape are aout, (I've just been looking for an elf netscape so that I can throw away my aout libraries

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 27-Jan-99 Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On 27-Jan-99 Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: Might the old communicator still being tied to a.out? This I can answer - all versions of netscape are aout, (I've just been looking for an elf netscape so that I can throw away my aout libraries

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Luke
Also, anyone even bothered to file the communicator 4.5 binary? Hopefully this helps [4.0-current -DNOSECURE -O2 -pipe] Netscape: FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged dynamically linked executable This is 4.5b1 communicator, and locks up X often enough I dont use it. netscape.bin: unknown

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Jason C. Wells
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: This I can answer - all versions of netscape are aout, (I've just been looking for an elf netscape so that I can throw away my aout libraries which are being carried around only for netscape nowadays). I wrote a port for Linux Netscape

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Jason C. Wells
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jason C. Wells wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: This I can answer - all versions of netscape are aout, (I've just been looking for an elf netscape so that I can throw away my aout libraries which are being carried around only for netscape

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Parag Patel
Just another data point. I just updated my 2xPII/300 system to 4.0-CURRENT last night (Tues Jan 26), and I'm running Netscape 4.5 just fine - no crashes od any odd behavior at all. VM_STACK is defined, I have 256Mb RAM, and 256Mb swap (which is currently untouched since the reboot) striped

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Luke
I wrote a port for Linux Netscape if anyone wants it. I sent it in but it came back to me with some comments about netscape port proliferation. I tried that one but it wants linux_lib installed on /compat and theres no room. Do you know if its ok to make /compat a link to somewhere else

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 11:04:22AM -0800, Parag Patel wrote: Just another data point. I just updated my 2xPII/300 system to 4.0-CURRENT last night (Tues Jan 26), and I'm running Netscape 4.5 just fine - no crashes od any odd behavior at all. VM_STACK is defined, I have 256Mb RAM

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Brian Feldman
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Luke wrote: I wrote a port for Linux Netscape if anyone wants it. I sent it in but it came back to me with some comments about netscape port proliferation. I tried that one but it wants linux_lib installed on /compat and theres no room. Do you know if its ok

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 02:20:32PM -0500, Luke wrote: I tried that one but it wants linux_lib installed on /compat and theres no room. Do you know if its ok to make /compat a link to somewhere else for the linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] I have /compat

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread System administration
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Luke wrote: I tried that one but it wants linux_lib installed on /compat and theres no room. Do you know if its ok to make /compat a link to somewhere else for the linux_lib port. [why does it install into / anyways] Should not harm anything. I have linked

Re: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Jake
Should not harm anything. I have linked /compat/linux to /home/linux (home is on its own filesystem), since my / is quite limited in space. No problems (and I don't really know why it should cause any). h24-64-221-247# ls -al /compat lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Oct 22 05:47 /compat -

Whats VM_STACK (was Re: Netscape | Mozilla)

1999-01-27 Thread Richard Seaman, Jr.
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 12:35:09PM -0500, Luke wrote: what is this VM_STACK option? Its some new code to manage autogrow stacks. The existing (old) code made a process stack autogrow. But, its useful to be able to create additional autogrow memory regions to use as thread stacks in

RE: Netscape | Mozilla

1999-01-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Luke wrote: I wrote a port for Linux Netscape if anyone wants it. I sent it in but it came back to me with some comments about netscape port proliferation. I tried that one but it wants linux_lib installed on /compat and theres no room. Do you know if its ok

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Reginald S. Perry wrote: I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just

RE: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-26 Thread paul
-Original Message- From: Reginald S. Perry [mailto:pe...@zso.dec.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 7:35 AM To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Andrew Gordon; curr...@freebsd.org; Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system I have been having these X lockups

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Vallo Kallaste
are right. I'm running previously called 3.0-CURRENT and Netscape Navigator 4.5. Sources are from Dec.29 1998. Also I'm getting coredumps when loading a huge page containing tables(table) and then using back. It always crashes when going back, not on initial loading. Why ? -- Vallo Kallaste va

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Amancio Hasty
I think this is the first step to show the bug . The next step is to pray that the netscape developer is listening so he can fix it . I think is odd that the bug doesn't happen with the linux version of netscape. Cheers, Amancio On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 04:21:16PM -0800

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Forrest Aldrich
I've a feeling that somewhere there is a memory problem. Netscape-specific perhaps, but I suspect otherwise due to what I've seen. For example: the one machine that I have which will constantly dump core when Netscape is run is an HP Vectra. I've tried 3.0, 2.2.8, all current patches, etc

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Andrew Gordon
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Archie Cobbs
Nate Williams writes: I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems. My intranet

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:28:10 GMT, Andrew Gordon wrote: One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. Aha! That figures. Since I upgraded to CURRENT, with its login.conf which defaults

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Matthew Dillon
:One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With :datasize unlimited, Netscape eats all the available swap (this system is :64M real 128M swap) and kills the system that way. I currently run

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Andrew Gordon
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well over a year and have never had

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Luke
Aha! That figures. Since I upgraded to CURRENT, with its login.conf which defaults to unlimited resources, my frequent netscape core dumps have gone away. I hadn't realized why until now. Suggestion: wwhen people complain about Netscape, ask them to mail us back the output of ``ulimit

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Forrest Aldrich
to unlimited resources, my frequent netscape core dumps have gone away. I hadn't realized why until now. Suggestion: wwhen people complain about Netscape, ask them to mail us back the output of ``ulimit -a''. My login.conf has unlimited for everything for myself and netscape still

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Eugeny Kuzakov
Вы писали: Nate Williams writes: I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 26-Jan-99 Andrew Gordon wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default :datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-25 Thread Reginald S. Perry
I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have

4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Luke
I built 4.0 and after getting over the libcrypt thing it worked ok. But now every copy of netscape I have [5, all freebsd] freezes the system, waiting, switching to ttyv* dont help. and it doesnt dump core or syslog anything. Im not exactly sure what info would be helpful. Anyways other than

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Baby Jane Hudson
I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Luke
On 24-Jan-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread sthaug
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Archie Cobbs
Jordan K. Hubbard writes: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Amancio Hasty
http://www.developer.com/experts/expertspanel.html click on Bar's Guide to the the Interactive Fiction and after the page finishes loading click Back on Netscape's tool bar. Instant core -dump. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Nate Williams
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Edwin Culp
Nate Williams wrote: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed

Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system

1999-01-24 Thread Nate Williams
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my

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