Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Eric, > > That mainly is because Apple is Apple ;-) In DOS, you get very > far with a standard C library, good old OpenWatcom or DJGPP, in > the latter case even similar enough to the Linux GCC and G++ C > and C++ infrastructure to ease porting of things to DOS. As DOS > does not provide GUI, net

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi, On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > I hope Rugxulo can help you getting that HX download uploaded > to a place where it is easier to get than from the web archive. Very unlikely. It's neither "open source" nor "free software", only so-called freeware with (most?) sources. T

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hey :-) > what Apple does with Xcode, they provide an IDE, LLVM (and GCC) and > Swift along with sample code, an SDK and documentation. That mainly is because Apple is Apple ;-) In DOS, you get very far with a standard C library, good old OpenWatcom or DJGPP, in the latter case even similar eno

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > ... > > FLDEV, at least judging from the screenshots, seems nice. And graphical. > > ... > +1 -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing l

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi :-) While I do not use IDE software for DOS, FLDEV, at least judging from the screenshots, seems nice. And graphical. Regards, Eric > What does everyone think about adding this to the Dev package > in the official 1.2 distro? > > Georg Potthast wrote: > >> I ported a graphical IDE to DOS

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 6:57 PM, "Steve Nickolas" wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Antony Gordon wrote: > > > Why is that important? > > Because that means it doesn't really qualify for inclusion > with FreeDOS, as I understand it. That's not quite true. The FreeDOS kernel itself is GPL (v2), but compi

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Well I mean sure you can download software and all the drivers u want and set up environments which for some people is fun but if you don't have the time or can't be bothered setting up an ide and drivers an oobe distro takes that hassle away and can make things smoother. I'd develop more is it was

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Which is? Are you speaking of User Experience, User Friendliness or something else? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Chelson Aitcheson wrote: > Out of box experience > > On 04/06/2015 10:07 am, "Louis Santillan" wrote: >> >> What is oobe? >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chelson Aitcheson >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Out of box experience On 04/06/2015 10:07 am, "Louis Santillan" wrote: > What is oobe? > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chelson Aitcheson > wrote: > > Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. > > > > Whether it be for dev or new users. > > > > And stop comparin

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

What is oobe? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Chelson Aitcheson wrote: > Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. > > Whether it be for dev or new users. > > And stop comparing it to Linux because Linux developers made the forward > choices to make it what it is to

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Antony Gordon wrote: > Why is that important? Because that means it doesn't really qualify for inclusion with FreeDOS, as I understand it. -uso. -- ___ Fr

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Oobe should be be a part of the fd distro to ever be considered serious. Whether it be for dev or new users. And stop comparing it to Linux because Linux developers made the forward choices to make it what it is today and freedos people are too scared of the ideas of adding features to the distro

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

It could either be on the ISO or a package that's installed. The idea that I had was to provide someone who wanted to develop for FreeDOS a collection of pre configured tools, documentation and examples to get started. Some of us know FreeDOS better than others as well as the internals of MS-DOS.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Why is that important? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015, 6:14 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be open source. -uso. -- ___

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

On 6/3/2015 3:19 PM, Steve Nickolas wrote: > Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be > open source. > We are talking here about the FreeDOS project, dealing with source/compilers from a time well before either of those were in any form relevant. I mentioned this

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Rhide and setedit's output capture is what is being asked for. On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Jun 3, 2015 4:13 PM, "Antony Gordon" > wrote: > > > > Is there an IDE that’s included with FreeDOS that we can > > extend to read compiler messages and such? > > What do you me

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Keep in mind that OpenWatcom doesn't meet Debian or GNU's criteria to be open source. -uso. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi, On Jun 3, 2015 4:13 PM, "Antony Gordon" wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> > >> I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and > >> there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. > > Is there an IDE that’s included with FreeDOS that we can > extend

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi. > On Jun 3, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >>> How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? > > I don't want to be pessimistic or discourage anyone, but this sounds > difficult. > Not being pessimistic, being realistic. Realis

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

What does everyone think about adding this to the Dev package in the official 1.2 distro? On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Georg Potthast wrote: > I ported a graphical IDE to DOS last year: > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldev/ > > Please click on the screenshots to enlarge them. It was dev

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

So far as the RBIL, an offline version of this may suffice. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > [SNIP] > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> I think

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

I ported a graphical IDE to DOS last year: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fldev/ Please click on the screenshots to enlarge them. It was developed for djgpp. Maybe you can use that and extend it for your purposes. Georg ---

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, [SNIP] > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer wrote: >> I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and >> there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. > > Neither has been maintained (for DOS/DJGPP, at least) in a decade. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Eric, Finally I’m not irking your nerves :) I wasn’t thinking of even using the Borland Museum tools. What I actually envisioned was much like what Apple does with Xcode, they provide an IDE, LLVM (and GCC) and Swift along with sample code, an SDK and documentation. Fortunately for FreeDOS, th

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi, On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > >> How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? I don't want to be pessimistic or discourage anyone, but this sounds difficult. > I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and > there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. Neither

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi! > How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? I think SETEDIT comes with some programmer support and there is some DJGPP IDE (RHIDE?) and maybe others. While I myself do not use free open source IDE for DOS, but do remember that the Turbo C / Turbo Pascal IDE was not bad, I suggest that there coul

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Developer Studio

Hi, Since I’ve become the “bain of everyone’s existence” regarding the 32-bit extension to FreeDOS, I am going to attempt to offer an olive branch so I can stay on the list. How about a FreeDOS Developer Studio? It would combine all of the recommended build tools to build the operating from t