Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Um, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not an Emacs user. Quite the opposite, probably. On Jan 21, 2013 6:33 PM, "Marcus G. Daniels" wrote: > On 1/21/13 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > > Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. > > Unix tools are not the best for this kind of task. One wo

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

On 1/21/13 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. Unix tools are not the best for this kind of task. One would better served with a programmable editor or e-mail client that can traverse lines and work in terms of sentences and paragraphs. One edit

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

Not as far as teaching is concerned. That should come from tuition and the state for public universities. At least it used to. In a typical large university only about 20% if the budget comes from teaching (tuition plus state support). That is very different from when we were students. The pro

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Right. When we were messing around with SFX's sys admin model, I found archives for both friam and sfx and found that with a fairly small effort (l1/2 hr say) could convert them between various formats. This was needed for an experiment to save the early friam material and to get sfx onto Nabble.

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Edward Angel wrote: > > Most striking is that none of the entities providing MOOCs have a > sustainable business model. They are being supported by foundations, such > as the Gates Foundation with the Khan Academy, or as experiments by some of > the richer unive

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

P.S., I forgot to mention, there's an API for all of this, to generate graphs programatically should that become applicable. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Newman wrote: > Barry, > Yes, arrows can be of different types. Colors are now supported in the > UI. Styles (dotted, etc.) are supp

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Barry, Yes, arrows can be of different types. Colors are now supported in the UI. Styles (dotted, etc.) are supported in the backend, only awaiting an afternoon to put in the UI to select the style you want. Weighting of arrows is also supported, currently being saved in the shared database, sim

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

But the tools I mentioned are also available on Windows. The main things to avoid are webmail and the P.O.S. called Outlook. Cheers On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 03:34:53PM -0700, Douglas Roberts wrote: > Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Russell

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

My mistake in reading your note was to have in mind the local professor, not undergrad or graduate teaching assistants. In our own implementation of a giant course, we did quite a lot of training and support of the TAs, and we structured lab and problem sessions in such a way that the TA needed onl

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:01:21PM -0700, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > Thanks, Owen. > > > > > > > > I fooled around with the problem a bit more yesterday and immediately > > encountered

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:01:21PM -0700, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Thanks, Owen. > > > > I fooled around with the problem a bit more yesterday and immediately > encountered a problem I hadn't expected. It was easy to collect all the > emails from one them in one place, but NOT easy to get

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Interesting... Here are some ideas to think about or shoot down. Is there a role for different types of arrows between entities? I can imagine writing something and wanting to indicate that it is in response to (a particular paragraph?) of a particular email, but I might also want to point b

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

Bruce -- I didn't mean to dismiss content expertise altogether. It's impossible to even begin to make sense of a technical subject without some content expertise. And you would hope that people who enjoyed facilitating a subject would continue to deepen their understanding of the subject, and th

Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

Yep, if you're going to say it like it is about your employer, better be prepared for the result. --Doug On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Barry MacKichan < barry.mackic...@mackichan.com> wrote: > My gripe with Google is that they chip away at my privacy and then glue > the chips together to bui

Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

My gripe with Google is that they chip away at my privacy and then glue the chips together to build a marketing model of me. A podcast on alternatives to Google is at http://macpowerusers.com/2012/03/mpu-077-dumping-google/. Too bad that the content-to-time ratio for podcasts is so low, but it d

Re: [FRIAM] WAS:: Cliques, public, private. IS: Preserving email correspondence

Jochen Fromm, Which would require us to migrate FRIAM to a forum, right? I hear that gmail is more forum like in how it keeps mail. I should look into that. Perhaps it's just a matter of my receiving my mail in a different mail handler. N -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:fr

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

My spin on the MOOC's is that they set teachers free to teach rather than wasting everyone's time posing as authorities dispensing lectures. Most teachers cannot be authorities in all the courses they teach, and very few people are really good lecturers. Though we're doing undergraduate and gradu

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

MOOCs have had two great benefits. First they have shaken up the universities, which hopefully will lead them to address the educational issues they have avoiding dealing with for a long time. Second, they do provide access to people who would otherwise have none. Nevertheless, I see them as an

Re: [FRIAM] WAS:: Cliques, public, private. IS: Preserving email correspondence

Nick, There is no need to reinvent the wheel, there are already many existing systems which "turn email into readable text". These systems have been around as long as the Internet exists. The come in the form of mailing lists, newsgroups, forums, and or as a hybrid between email and web forum. T

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

Regard motivation and opportunity, I keep hearing anecdotes, like dropping a shipment of tablets, with no explanation, no instructions, manuals in English, in an African village where no one speaks English...and five months later they are teaching themselves English and have hacked the tablets in s

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Right, Owen. I will try to mock it up. But perhaps not immediately. My thought was to take one of the recent FRIAM orgies and organize it "by hand" as I think it should be when it has been processed by the program I hope to invent for myself (stifled laughter in the background). Somebody has

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

All of which is true, Owen, but I'm afraid you're making the natural mistake of extrapolating from your own interests, experiences, and high capabilities. The people like you and others on this list are in the world at large a set of measure zero, albeit a set we don't want to neglect or fail to nu

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Thanks, Owen. I fooled around with the problem a bit more yesterday and immediately encountered a problem I hadn't expected. It was easy to collect all the emails from one them in one place, but NOT easy to get an email, with it's headers, into text. Apparently in email (unlike in the forum

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

I'm willing to donate a FRIAM license of MyIdeaTree(drag and drop building of network graphs from links). I'd learn a ton about usability from that. The email / blog content would have to be located on the web somewhere. Ron On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Owen Dens

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Nick: could you do me a favor? After all the input, could you sorta play "scenarios" or "prototypes"? These are common design practices that take an idea and actually mock it up. Scenarios include "workflow" .. i.e. how the design is used on a daily, weekly, and archive basis. Prototypes are a

Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

As a side note, the careful observer will notice that I did not post that last blog article until *after* I had received the RMA authorization and UPS shipping label from Google... On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > I'm gonna hazard the opinion that you don't "get" indiff

Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

I'm gonna hazard the opinion that you don't "get" indifference. It is a mind set that, by its nature you can't self detect if you have it. Microsoft has had it on and off over the years. LANL had it for most of the 20 year period that I worked there. Google has it in spades. Last year I was giv

Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: > http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/semi-final-note-on-nexus-4.html > Nice post! And its interesting to see there are quite a few folks aware of Google's apparent indifference. My puzzle is just "Why?". Hasn't Apple shown that Goog

Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

I'm not surprised MOOCs have a high dropout rate: they're designed that way. You sign up for 2-3 of them and stay in the one you like most. MOOCs are likely to have a great impact on the firewalled papers problem (JSTOR etc) by providing enough clout to build their own open repositories. And even

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

Nick: Just in case it wasn't clear, the friam list is on two mail "archives" that are searchable, although not particularly well. Try Googling: friam redfish nick thompson or: friam redfish Preserving email correspondence or simply searching http://www.mail-archive.com/friam@redfish.co

[FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4

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Re: [FRIAM] "Academics" and other Stereotypes

There was a very interesting article in Time last October. The reporter took three versions of an introductory physics course: one at an elite university, one at an inner-city community college and one with a MOOC. Her observations were that each was suited for some and not for others. The elite

Re: [FRIAM] I reached a tipping point with Google today

Yes, that's what makes this whole episode so bizarre: Google owns that phone. They had LG manufacture it for them. Google owns Android - it's theirs! And they failed to make the phone work. And since it's an unlocked GSM phone, the operator is not an issue: purchase a sim card from any GSM provi