Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Rich Murray
Owen, I lost track of your question -- just used Google -- I like it! ... the natural resurgence of inner experience in a world religion that is capable, deep, complex, and subtle enough to evolve radically and swiftly to meet the remarkable, unavoidable opportunities of these decades: http://www

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Bruce - I think Doug is just enjoying rattling the cage we all (including him) seem to be inhabiting. Otherwise he would not be reading his e-mail while watching Wallander. His delete button (it is established that Doug does not read his mail in a textual mail tool or I'd say "delete key se

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Owen Densmore
Rich: you never got back to me on Taize .. are you aware of the movement? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_re

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Doug - Not to disturb you and Wallander, but here's a browserDrivel question: are you saying Netflix is streaming to your Chromebook without Silverlight?I'd like to "never see Silverlight again"... - Steve QUIT BOTHERING ME WITH THIS PISSANT BROWSER DRIVEL! I'm watching Wallander on my

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
I agree, Bruce, Wallander is really interesting. In fact, the blond, divorced special investigator is the same actress who played against Blovmqvist in the "Girl With The Dragon Tatooo" series. Good stuff! Plus, I love listening to Swedish. On Apr 3, 2013 9:35 PM, "Bruce Sherwood" wrote: > Doug,

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Bruce Sherwood
Doug, I can't tell whether you're being serious or not. Though I'm not in a position to act immediately on all the new developments that Owen enthusiastically ferrets out, I value the fact that he's giving us a picture of how very much rich ferment there is right now in the JavaScript/browser world

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Bruce Sherwood
Feynman had a nice comment on this, Nick. He suggests that faith healers don't take their faith seriously. Retrieved from http://faculty.randolphcollege.edu/tmichalik/feynman.htm "There is an infinite amount of crazy stuff, which, put another way, is that the environment is actively, intensely un

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
QUIT BOTHERING ME WITH THIS PISSANT BROWSER DRIVEL! I'm watching Wallander on my Google Chromebook with Netflix running ad an html5 implementation in my Chrome browser. Or at least I would be if you all would quit going on and on and on about javascript, and Mozilla, and wtf else... Thank you.

[FRIAM] Fwd: Browser market share

2013-04-03 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm a bit surprised that Chrome is behind Fire Fox. http://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=1&qpcustomb=0 This makes me more interested in asm.js than ever. And MozPhone. And Emscripten. And Rust. I wish the Dev Tools weren't so opaque. -- Owen =

Re: [FRIAM] perplexed by netflix

2013-04-03 Thread Bruce Sherwood
That's amusing, Cody. There certainly was a lot of clever extemporaneous mechanical and electrical innovation in the film. Bruce On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:33 PM, cody dooderson wrote: > Four thumbs up for three idiots. > It was very good movie for the Maker movement. > On Apr 1, 2013 7:43 PM,

Re: [FRIAM] perplexed by netflix

2013-04-03 Thread cody dooderson
Four thumbs up for three idiots. It was very good movie for the Maker movement. On Apr 1, 2013 7:43 PM, "Sarbajit Roy" wrote: > Dear Bruce > > If you liked 3 Idiots, you may enjoy its even better "prequel" - Munna > Bhai MBBS. > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374887/ > > Sarbajit > > On Tue, Apr

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Ron Newman
So far in this thread I hear opinions mixed with some desire to examine evidence, but no discussion of the evidence itself. We are ourselves demonstrating one of the points made in the original blog post that spawned this thread - that it's about culture and assumptions, not science. I don't hav

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Bruce Sherwood
A small personal comment on related matters: It's not uncommon to hear statements of the form "Science can never explain X". Solving for X, one of the common solutions is "consciousness", but there are other popular solutions to the equation. Step back about 500 years, and humans were not in a posi

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread mar...@snoutfarm.com
Well, the reason I mentioned it wasn't it was yet another "Let's fix C++ by harvesting ideas from the computer science literature." effort, e.g. D, but that it 1) is from Mozilla (Eich) and aims to be a platform for a next generation browser, and even one that runs on mobile devices, and 2) it isn'

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud storage

2013-04-03 Thread Edward Angel
I'm pretty simplistic about it and use mozy. My computers are backed up automatically and I don't spend any time thinking about it. The two times there was a failure of their data base on my machine getting corrupted, they were able to recover everything quickly. When we returned to NM after two

Re: [FRIAM] Cloud storage

2013-04-03 Thread Gary Schiltz
I haven't thought that much about it, but it just occurred to me that it might be fun to build a distributed, RAID-inspired "el cheapo" cloud storage system. Sign up for about ten services each offering 5 GB of free storage, and think of each as a member of a RAID system, and stripe blocks of fi

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread Arlo Barnes
Or perhaps they wanted it to sound futuristic, and believe in the Used Future design ethic. -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
So that after learning it, you could honestly claim that your skills were Rusty. --BadaBing On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Joshua Thorp wrote: > Interesting a new language I hadn't hear about. But why would you name > anything Rust? > > > --joshua > > -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread Joshua Thorp
Interesting a new language I hadn't hear about. But why would you name anything Rust? --joshua On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:50 PM, "mar...@snoutfarm.com" wrote: > contrast with.. > > https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/04/03/mozilla-and-samsung-collaborate-on- > next-generation-web-browser-engine/

[FRIAM] Cloud storage

2013-04-03 Thread Russ Abbott
Matthew Yglasias has a piece on Slate about Amazon's new cloud storage service and how it's likely to kill Dropbox. Naturally I signed up. But I already have a Dropbo

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Roger/Glen - Dysrhetorica even better! Humpty-Dumpty-itis... more cynical perhaps. "I am who you think I think I am" also seems relevant. It is perhaps why the most stubborn of us in our own self-image seem to be the easiest to deal with (one way or the other). If we offer no doubt about

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Douglas Roberts
You want to feel old? Try interacting with the Android development community. The average age of the CyanogenMod community, for example, appears to be about 14 years. I actually heard one of the CM devs refer to one of their "senior" developers, who turns out to be 30 years old. --Doug On Wed,

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
I like the two quotes: /What counts is not what sounds plausible, not what we would like to believe, not what one or two witnesses claim, but only what is supported by hard evidence rigorously and skeptically examined. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. /- Carl Sagan

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread mar...@snoutfarm.com
contrast with.. https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2013/04/03/mozilla-and-samsung-collaborate-on- next-generation-web-browser-engine/ Original Message: - From: Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 12:04:00 -0600 To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Roger Critchlow
You're right, dyslexia is a bad match. Probably should have called it dysrhetorica, failure to recognize the significance of your own arguments, as evidenced by your dismay when people tell you what they heard you say. Or maybe it should be humpty-dumpty-itis, as in the words mean just what I mea

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread glen
Roger Critchlow wrote at 04/03/2013 11:04 AM: > I think it's a form of rhetorical dyslexia -- what one thinks one is > arguing is not the argument that others hear one making. I don't grok the map to dyslexia. But the disconnect between the thoughts of the sender and those of the receiver is quit

Re: [FRIAM] John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread Barry MacKichan
Fascinating… --Barry On Apr 3, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > Note: I'd usually confine this to wedtech but because of the broader nature > of the asm.js post, and the author himself, John Resig, I thought the broader > list would be better. > > http://ejohn.org/blog/asmjs-javascri

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Roger Critchlow
Dang, I missed the thermodynamic reference. I think there's a parallel between Sam Harris being outraged that people think he's a racist islamophobe ( http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/dear-fellow-liberal2/ ) and the woo peddlers being outraged that TED doesn't think their ideas are worth spreadi

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Smith
Gary - Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) You and me both (56)... I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. In my Private Investigator days (late 70s) I carried a fully analog pager and had a

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending

2013-04-03 Thread Nicholas Thompson
[psi] N From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Rich Murray Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:41 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group; Rich Murray Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending T

Re: [FRIAM] Cell phone turns 40

2013-04-03 Thread Gary Schiltz
Thanks a lot, dude. The second post that makes me feel incredibly old at 54 :-) I certainly remember life without cell phones, trying to find a public phone and the right change. Incredible how much things can change in such a short time (including the differing perceptions of what constitutes "

[FRIAM] Fwd: John Resig - Asm.js: The JavaScript Compile Target

2013-04-03 Thread Owen Densmore
Note: I'd usually confine this to wedtech but because of the broader nature of the asm.js post, and the author himself, John Resig, I thought the broader list would be better. http://ejohn.org/blog/asmjs-javascript-compile-target/ -- Owen ===