Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

2010-04-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
orems? On Apr 24, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Because of the fallacy of induction? Do you mean this induction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction#Description I.e. are you interested in proofs over the positive integers? --

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

2010-04-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
The philosopher Garfinkel was fond of citing Willy Sutton on questions like this: REPORTER: Mr Sutton, why do you rob banks? WILLIE: 'Cuz that's where the money is. Without a theorem, it's impossible to to know what the question is. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ps

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

2010-04-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Because of the fallacy of induction? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From

Re: [FRIAM] peloton/ leadership in flocks

2010-04-12 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hugh, these are interesting. Please keep us up to date. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original M

[FRIAM] Belated REsponse: Re: Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-04-11 Thread Nicholas Thompson
:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Hugh Trenchard Sent: March 29, 2010 10:42 AM To: ERIC P. CHARLES; Nicholas Thompson Cc: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature Thanks Eric for taking the time to look through my post. For Nick's last post, I am not e

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

2010-04-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
This fits with Leigh's announcement of Melanie's talk, or at least Melanie's seminal work in "Analogy Making as Perception". YES!!! Does anybody have links to such work! Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@cla

Re: [FRIAM] leadership in flocks

2010-04-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Ted, Perhaps I havent been following this thread closely enough to put my oar in, but the following passage caught my eye: "The remarkable thing about the flocking models, such as the one in JASS, is that they show that leadership doesn't have to be due to an internal trait. It may simply

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

2010-04-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Steve, Oh, Wow! You wrote: My interest as a Visualization Scientist (Trained in Physics/Math, practiced in CS/CE and focused mostly on the range of topics revolving around synthesized perceptual spaces for exploration, discovery and analysis of (possibly complex) phenomena) is in the form

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

2010-04-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
John, I am amazed. I had no idea you were this deep down this rabbit-hole. Has anybody out there read Sommerhoff: (sp?) Analyical Biology? About 1950. Is it relevant? It was concerned with what I am going to call, for want of better terms, diachronic teloi. The self aiming gun. It's dia

Re: [FRIAM] invitation + introduction

2010-04-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Owen, Sorry. couldn't see how this was relevant. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > F

Re: [FRIAM] Note re Pixel video

2010-04-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] Pamela, you wrote: clever indeed This is interesting. I obviously am standin

Re: [FRIAM] Note re Pixel video

2010-04-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Lee > In this case, though, Nick, is it supposed to be > "funny" or is it supposed to be "art"? You know, now that you mention it, I wanted to ask that very question but was too shy. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.

[FRIAM] Robots on late night tv

2010-04-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Ok, Am I the only list-member debauched enough to admit to staying up to watch Craig Fergusson's robot skeleton sidekick? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

Re: [FRIAM] Note re Pixel video

2010-04-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Victoria 911 still too raw for me to take pancaking buildings as any part of funny. Thin skin, i guess. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [

Re: [FRIAM] UNM CS Student Conference proceedings now available

2010-04-07 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All, I had a look at procedings (see below) and it looks like if you ever had an interest in finding out what the computer science department at UNM is on about, this would be a tremendously efficient way. The way these student conferences usually work, in my experience, is that each faculty mem

Re: [FRIAM] Emotions as Adaptation

2010-04-05 Thread Nicholas Thompson
. Since every person has a > slightly different history resulting in different > memories and experiences, each person has a unique, > individual subjective experience, dependent on his > individual slice of the world. > > -J. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ni

Re: [FRIAM] Emotions as Adaptation

2010-04-04 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Jochen, I tend to think of emotions as regulations. What makes them vary among people is that people live in different worlds (well, different "slices" of the same world) and have different regulator set points, determined both by their experience and innate physiology. I will have a look at

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot Science Story | Twins' DNA Foils Police

2010-04-03 Thread Nicholas Thompson
promote cooperation. I do find that students still find the Prisoner's Dilemma cute, maybe even opens up there minds a bit to how social decision making differs from individual decision making. George On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: George, you are, of cours

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot Science Story | Twins' DNA Foils Police

2010-04-03 Thread Nicholas Thompson
even opens up there minds a bit to how social decision making differs from individual decision making. George On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: George, you are, of course, absolutely correct. That is always a weakness to the PD story, which is, at base, a really st

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot Science Story | Twins' DNA Foils Police

2010-04-03 Thread Nicholas Thompson
George, you are, of course, absolutely correct. That is always a weakness to the PD story, which is, at base, a really stupid way to think about cooperation issues. It is one of those ideas which was sort of cute at the time, got into all the text books, and has been drilled into the heads

Re: [FRIAM] Slashdot Science Story | Twins' DNA Foils Police

2010-04-03 Thread Nicholas Thompson
I suppose if we were good genetic determinists we would hang them both! Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe]

[FRIAM] New Blood!

2010-04-01 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hi, everybody, I have invited Bill Laurizen to join us tomorrow morning, who, on his own account, is interested "in complexity and universal selection theory, commercial applications of complexity theory, etc., etc." He also wonders if any of us know Alan Kay ? He is also the author of a b

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From: Hugh Trenchard To: ERIC P. CHARLES;Nicholas Thompson Cc: Friam@redfish.com Sent: 3/29/2010 4:58:42 PM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
P. CHARLES To: Nicholas Thompson Cc: Hugh Trenchard; Friam@redfish.com Sent: 3/29/2010 11:13:31 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature But Nick, Hugh's point is that we DO NOT need trait-group selection to explain the clustering sperm. We merely need sperm to swim i

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
really needs to be worked through again), but it would happen a whole lot faster if I could engage someone more adept at computer modelling than me. - Original Message ----- From: ERIC P. CHARLES To: Nicholas Thompson Cc: Hugh Trenchard ; friam@redfish.com Sent: Saturday, March 27,

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
around the world being famous and talking about the evolution of religion. Gawd I hate when that happens. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ htt

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From: ERIC P. CHARLES To: Nicholas Thompson Cc: Hugh Trenchard; fr

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
groups which otherwise > appear to have occurred because genetically related sperm can somehow > identify each other? I am really only suggesting the existence of some > dynamics of the sperm aggregations that could be studied for, which don't > yet appear to have been addresse

Re: [FRIAM] Sperm pelotons; article in Nature

2010-03-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
This is fun to think about. Hopefully, REC will help me: Is there a paradox here. let it be the case that sperm sort themselves by fitness; let it further be the case that sperm in peletons have an advantage over sperm that dont. Isnt it now the case that sperm are no longer sorting themselves

[FRIAM] Mike's Music Exchange

2010-03-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
http://www.mikesmusicexchange.com Am I the last person on earth to learn about this venue? I learned about them because they are presenting a free showing of michael moore's CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY on Sunday at 2pm. As I read the map, they are more or less across the freeway from BobCat B

Re: [FRIAM] Narcissism Epidemic Spreads Among College Students

2010-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
"Nick's accusations of narcissim" Was that me? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] >

Re: [FRIAM] How to Begin?

2010-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Vladamir wrote -- I must be the first ever to wish to program stupid autonomous agents! On the contrary, Vladamir. It is their stupidity that makes autonomous agents so theoretically endearing. Thanks for stirring us all up! Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and

Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!)

2010-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
exity Coffee Group > Date: 3/23/2010 8:47:01 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!) > > > On Mar 22, 2010, at 5:06 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: > > > Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 10-03-22 04:58 PM: > >> Yes. I am sorry. That was my fault. There w

Re: [FRIAM] How to Begin?

2010-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Eric, I certainly don't object. I am not sure I have a copy of that paper myself. Seeing it would be like meeting an old friend in the Philadephia railway station.. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.ea

Re: [FRIAM] multiple tool kits [was (advice needed!)]

2010-03-23 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Eric, Steve, I am trying to reconcile my agreement with the spirit of your correspondence with my largely failed attempts to work toward a common language in our conversations about complexity on this list and on Friday mornings. I, too, was trained in many traditions comparative psycholo

Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!)

2010-03-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
logy, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 3/22/2010 6:06:58 P

Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!)

2010-03-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
igns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 3/22/2010 4:09:05 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!) > > Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 10-03-22 12:

Re: [FRIAM] (advice needed!)

2010-03-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Glen, you wrote " Math is a language for disambiguation". Forgive me if I have asked you this before: Have you ever read Byers HOW MATHEMATICIANS THINK? If so, could you rub those two rocks together a little for me? Thx, N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Etho

Re: [FRIAM] Genetic algorithm for groups

2010-03-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
In great haste: group selection is of interest in explaining group design. Group design may look like "altrusim" to a dyed in the wool individual selectionist, but more importantly, it is just group design. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (

Re: [FRIAM] Genetic algorithm for groups

2010-03-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
russ, I little sober reflection (no pun intended) will reveal that David Sloan Wilson's "trait group selection" is actually a mechanism for quantitative inheritance of group traits. See http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/id49.html where you can download the pdf by cli

Re: [FRIAM] google's public data explorer

2010-03-09 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Wow! I'm saved. I live in a one story house and I keep my medicines in an old tangerine box. Whew! n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City

Re: [FRIAM] Popular Science Puts Entire Scanned Archive Online, Free

2010-03-06 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Did anybody else have the problem that this page would start to load, and then go blank after a few seconds? I have this problem with several webpages that have advertizing associated with them. It's as if the page goes out for an ad and then cannot get it and/or cannot make up a page with the in

[FRIAM] Did you know that ...

2010-02-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
.. anybody who has the last four digits of your credit card number and calls from your phone number can have full access to your paypal account? That is ALL they need. You wouldnt want to lose your wallet and your cell phone on the same day. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ps

Re: [FRIAM] City council approves unanimously!

2010-02-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Steve n All, The presentations made by the city staff and others were aMAZing. Obviously a LOT of hard work ... skillful work .THOUGHTful work went into those presentations. Congratulations all around. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,

Re: [FRIAM] Chatroullete

2010-02-21 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Steve, ...and a partridge in a pear tree??? n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message -

Re: [FRIAM] War has been declared

2010-02-19 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Interesting to have the connection spelled out. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message

Re: [FRIAM] War has been declared

2010-02-19 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Because, glen, many of us are taking a vicarious pleasure in it. Sex and Beer are also a waste of time. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.or

Re: [FRIAM] War has been declared

2010-02-18 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All, I have occasionally been of the mind to take this sort of revenge on a corporation, but don't have the technical know how (or the--um --guts) to do so. But that hasn't kept me from worrying about the consequences of acting with explicit MALICE against any organization with lawyers. I

Re: [FRIAM] Americans: Neither Ugly nor Dumb

2010-02-16 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Peter, A bit of Santa Feana for you Joyce lovers. Did you know that there is a Joyce group in Town here that meets weekly to read and discuss Joyces work? This week they are working through Portrait of the Artist, chapter by chapter, and Finnegan's Wake, sentence by sentence. The group is

Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-15 Thread Nicholas Thompson
t; > Glen > See http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ and don't skip the bit that > says "disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous > acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind". A right isn't a > natural consequence... but then I th

Re: [FRIAM] Health care [was Sources of Innovation]

2010-02-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
This discussion is a wonderful example of what Doug is talking about. Notice how the more imponderable the situation is the more confident become our opinions. Think about the following conundrum. Let's imagine -- for the purposes of argument -- that health care is a genuine imponderable ...

Re: [FRIAM] Sources of Innovation

2010-02-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Doug, Parroting doug ===>We truly are a nation of idiots. We deserve Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, and Pat Robertson <=== end parroting Doug I don't think one has to be stupid to engage in Dialogues of the Deaf. We do that sort of thing quite well in FRIAM, from time to time, and we are, ex h

Re: [FRIAM] Sources of Innovation

2010-02-13 Thread Nicholas Thompson
University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: Pamela McCorduck > To: ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 2/13/2010 10:31:55 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Sources of Innovation > > > On Feb 13, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: &

Re: [FRIAM] Sources of Innovation

2010-02-13 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Yeah, but Doesn't War sometimes cut the other way? What about the War on Space? (Soon to become the War on Mars -- there's an irony.) NIck Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson

Re: [FRIAM] Sources of Innovation

2010-02-13 Thread Nicholas Thompson
What an interesting question! Getting to an answer requires setting aside ALL ideology and doing a comparative study, across history and national boundaries, on the phenomenon of technological leadership. Who knows, for instance, how the internet was developed? By Al Gore over a latte, righ

[FRIAM] tomorrow at St. Johns

2010-02-11 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All, I have no official role in saying this, but I think it would be best to return to our earlier time of 9-11.30. We are starting to gum up their lunch hour. nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://ho

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Josh, Google groups mangles attachments? Tell me a little more about that. As for the rest, I think google groups has real promise. The help mechanism is a little disconcerting, but it has a lot of the look and feel of BlackBoard and even has wiki=like features and versioning. Nick Nicho

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of evolution and self-organization

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Perhaps you should lead a course in it for CUSF next fall. Please send me stuff to feel guilty about no reading. (Actually, I am serious. I am falling way behind in this area). To have the teacher in one place and the students in another might actually work on SKYPE. Nick Nicholas S. Th

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From: ERIC P. CHARLES To: Nicholas Thompson Cc: friam@redfish.com Sent: 2/10/2010 1:01:04 PM Subject

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 2/10/2010 12:56:28 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives > > Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 10-02-10 11:29 A

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Glen, Because that's how evolution works? Development constrains the exploration space of evolution, and evolution would not be so sucessful if it did not. Epigenesis, man. Epigenesis. (};-]) (winking guy with big eyebrows and a smug smile) Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Profes

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Owen, Doug I have a GREAT idea! Why don't we write and offer to help them with their ... um .problem. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.o

Re: [FRIAM] Buzz arrives

2010-02-10 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Is it possible that the ecology is evolutionary ... just a bunch of pigeons pounding away at keys. And everytime anybody outsides Googleinvents anew app, Google just opens up a new room full of pigeons? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark Universit

[FRIAM] error 1706, F-MIT not available.

2010-01-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Anybody recognise this error. Microsoft Disowns it. I am running xp sp2. Save the wisecracks about upgrading to an abacus. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesign

Re: [FRIAM] Emergence

2010-01-18 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Russ #3 Emerence is an all-night party. Hard to be late to. I, however, am lost in Mathematical Thinking at the moment, and so will cede this inquiry to others. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home

[FRIAM] foghorn cleghorn

2010-01-18 Thread Nicholas Thompson
And now for a little geriatric reminiscence. Isnt "foghorn cleghorn" a mixture of two references from the 50's.? one, I think, is to Senator Foghorn, who I think was an occasional character on the Jack Benny Radio Show. "Cleghorn" I cannot do, but it rings a bell. "Fibber McGee and Molly?"

Re: [FRIAM] friam

2010-01-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Jim, The Coffee Shop at St. Johns IS open, according to the security desk. So. let's DO it. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [Cit

Re: [FRIAM] friam

2010-01-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
i am sitting in a fog at my breakfast table wondering that very question. The fact that i am up at this hour suggests that i think i am.. Anybody else? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/

Re: [FRIAM] ambiguity and mathematics

2009-12-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
hat ambiguity is what drives the process forward. On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Hi, everybody, The most important part of this message is the first few paragraphs, don't not read it because it is long. THE TEXT: Here are two stimulating quotes from W

Re: [FRIAM] ambiguity and mathematics

2009-12-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
In any discussion such as this one, lest the discussion just spin out of control (which gives everybody a giddy sense of whizzing around but eventually gets nowhere) we have to understand which definition of ambiguity we are working with. I suggested that we work with Byers's. The is nothing coa

Re: [FRIAM] ambiguity and mathematics

2009-12-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
gt; > another context. Hence, > > ambiguity is (like randomness) a statement of > > > > ignorance. > > > > So, there > > are 2 ways to parse the situation (and the quote from Byers) > > > > as a statement > > of ignorance: > > > > &g

Re: [FRIAM] ambiguity and mathematics

2009-12-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
r > > 2) Saying "ambiguity is the heart of math" is an expression that math is > a _method_, not knowledge ... an approach, not a thing to be approached. > > Both are compatible with the "mechanism" that Rosen rails about. But > (2) allows us to put off the controversy

[FRIAM] ambiguity and mathematics

2009-12-28 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hi, everybody, The most important part of this message is the first few paragraphs, don't not read it because it is long. THE TEXT: Here are two stimulating quotes from William Byers, How Mathematicians Think. You will find them on pp 23-25, which happen to be up on Amazon's page for th

Re: [FRIAM] Health Bill Summary

2009-12-24 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hi, Owen, What is described here is the House Bill. What just passed doesn't, for instance, have a public option, although it may have a trojan horse. Publicly chartered co-operatives??? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku

Re: [FRIAM] On Crowd Sourcing

2009-12-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Well, also remember that the only people who surveil are people who want to find something out. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City Unive

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: NetLogo 4.1 released

2009-12-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Owen, The moth model has not been updated since hector was a pup. Is that bad manners? Bad self promotion? I dont think models are forward compatible. Or is it that the program is not backward compatible with its models. I think Shawn might be willing to upgrade it, if I asked him nicely.

Re: [FRIAM] [Fwd: Re: Egging that chip off the old underbelly.]

2009-12-22 Thread Nicholas Thompson
[City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: Nicholas Thompson > Date: 12/22/2009 11:02:17 AM > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Egging that chip off the old underbelly.] > > > Apparently, my e-mail has been on the fritz; so my attempt to post this >

Re: [FRIAM] Goggles

2009-12-20 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Great geriatric aid! Talking to an old acquaintance at a Christmas party and can't remember their name. Just sneakily take their picture and Goggle will print out their name AND the last three things you talked about. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Cl

Re: [FRIAM] A little Proof, Dr Thurston! It aint Elementary!

2009-12-15 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Robert, thanks for the additional quotations. However, you made a slip of the fingers when you keyed in one of the passages. To head off needless controversy, I key it in correctly below. The capitalized word is where the slipup occured. "Mathematics as we practice it is much MORE forma

Re: [FRIAM] Thurston: On Proof and progress

2009-12-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
ence California State University, Los Angeles Cell phone: 310-621-3805 o Check out my blog at http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Dear Friammers, We have decided to carry on from our seminar on Emergence to one on Mathematical Thin

[FRIAM] Thurston: On Proof and progress

2009-12-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Dear Friammers, We have decided to carry on from our seminar on Emergence to one on Mathematical Thinking. Although we don't meet for a month, I found myself reading the first assignment, Thurston's On Proof and Progress in Mathematics. Now Thurston loves mathematics and is apparently good

Re: [FRIAM] Physics and Philosophy

2009-12-14 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Enough of this triumphalism of the "hard" scientists! Everything I learned about physics i learned at the feet of members of this list. if there are incongruities in what you taught me, you have only yourself to blame. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Etholog

Re: [FRIAM] Let's stay in touch on LinkedIn

2009-12-11 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Is this an appropriate use of this list. I am worried about the "what if everbody did it?" argument. In short, does asking a list to "friend" you scale up? n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.n

Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises

2009-12-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
it is more that the "propism" is hijacked or co-opted in a deliberate and clever fashion. Carry on! - Steve Quoting Nicholas Thompson circa 09-12-02 04:06 PM: Glen, I LIKED THIS. I particularly liked it, though, because of the odd usage of convicted (for convinced). Was that a sll

Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises

2009-12-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
And then, there are the anti-wacko wackos. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: gl

Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises

2009-12-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 12/2/2009 3:04:04 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises > > Quoting Nicholas Thompson circa 09-12-02 01:32 PM: > > So, I live in a pre keplerian village. On a hill in the middle of &

Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises

2009-12-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
So, I live in a pre keplerian village. On a hill in the middle of the village is a monastery where lives a monk who rings a bell at sunrise every day. A model explanation circulates around the village that the sun is attached to the Monk's bellrope and that it is his ringing the bell that rais

Re: [FRIAM] Game theorists hope to solve world's crises

2009-12-02 Thread Nicholas Thompson
All models are wrong; models are designed to be wrong. They couldnt possibly do any good if they weren;t wrong. It's just that some models are wronger than others. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.eart

Re: [FRIAM] Pressure and Noise!

2009-11-29 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Thanks, Peter, for straightening this out for me. Tell me more about this seminar you offered? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City Univ

Re: [FRIAM] Array Interference

2009-11-28 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Thank you, Peter. You are very kind to take the question seriously. Asking a question is like making a mess. Doing it is alot easier than undoing it. I am particularly puzzled by the manner in which "incompressibility" would seem to disturb the ways in which people talk about meteorology.

Re: [FRIAM] Hot Air, and Compressibilty

2009-11-28 Thread Nicholas Thompson
ter of air down here has a higher mass than a cubic meter of air up there. That NASA site has an interactive demo called Gaslab (at bottom here) that enables you to explore the ideal gas law. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Yes. And while we are at it, wh

Re: [FRIAM] Hot Air, and Compressibilty

2009-11-27 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Yes. And while we are at it, what does it mean when meteorologists say that air is more dense near the surface than higher up, or that cold air is denser than warm? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthl

Re: [FRIAM] Owen and the Mac

2009-11-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Thanks for the heads up. I will be sure not to mention those guys in my biography of Owen. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City Universit

Re: [FRIAM] Wind Farm Comprssible Flow!

2009-11-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Ok. It's unfair for your smart people to tease us dumb ones. Is air a compressible medium or not? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City

Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
mpson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 11/25/2009 4:35:26 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions > > Quoting Nicholas

Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
or that benefits those around them. Is Dave a > narcissist? Is he exploiting his fans? I don't know. And, frankly, I > don't care. The fact is that such behavior is much more complex than > you portray. > > Quoting Nicholas Thompson circa 09-11-25 09:28 AM: > > We

Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
named Dave. Dave was a criminal. Then he learned to make bread > and that others liked his bread. Now he uses his celebrity status in an > attempt to demonstrate that criminals can redirect their energy into > productive behavior that benefits those around them. Is Dave a > narcissi

Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
rthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: Owen Densmore > To: ; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 11/25/2009 10:26:49 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions &g

Re: [FRIAM] flocking windmills

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
e flock of turbines, you'd get the same sort of velocity effect. Having the flock adjust its geometry could be a big win. A fixed installation would be tuned to the most likely wind speed and direction. -- rec -- On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Hug

Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions

2009-11-25 Thread Nicholas Thompson
y Coffee Group > Date: 11/25/2009 6:53:34 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dunbar numbers and distributions > > Thus spake Nicholas Thompson circa 11/24/2009 09:10 PM: > > I am not at all sure what it means to have my rhetoric rejected. My facts, > > yes; my logic, sure. But my RH

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