Re: [FRIAM] Habermas rejects UAE’s Zayed Book Award

Heh, I explicitly hunted for a source *other* than the WaPo because it's owned by Bezos and I'd rather not advertise his for-profit businesses. So, the AP seemed like a good alternative. Then later I find this disturbing article: Emily Wilder’s Firing Is No Surprise: AP Has Always Been Right-Win

Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

OK. I agree that failure on every one of those objectives is assured. But the issue is less about setting the objective and measuring the outcomes than it is about *harvesting* one's failures. Everyone (with any sense) knows we'll fail on the overwhelming majority of those very ambitious objecti

Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

We have to be careful not to Jump the Shark. The book doesn't make the argument you caricature, here. There's absolutely nothing wrong with objectives and measurement, in general. What the book targets are *rigid* objectives and tight *controls*. If you've been paying attention to FriAM's recent

Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

While I don't think most reasonable people would disagree with the gist of these goals, I think there's plenty to disagree with regarding their ambiguity, how they're measured, the derived measures, and the interstitial spaces between the goals. Examining the lives of Palestinians, for example,

Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

Yeah, OK. I agree. As with the FinTech payment plan band-aid I posted, our nudges can, at least, demonstrate some good faith attempts to "do good". But I'd like it better if we were more aggressive in our attempts ... aim high so that when you inevitably fail, you'll end up slightly higher than

Re: [FRIAM] Drones to detect wildfires

Nah, Dave's right in suggesting not only that *any* attempt to corral all the variables will, practically, amount to cherry-picking a subset of variables. (That feels almost like a mathematical theorem to me.) So we, literally, cannot remediate our worst impulses, much less make it profitable to

Re: [FRIAM] How swarms of bees go from preferring one target to preferring another

This reminds me of my (professional) biologist friends' reactions to my interest in DIY biology. It's a testament to Wade's objectivity that, here, he argues somewhat against the openness and speed of "natural" processes, whereas in his book (resoundingly "canceled" by the professionals) he argu

[FRIAM] More capitalist band-aids

Fintech takes aim at a $400B healthcare puzzle https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/fintech-takes-aim-at-a-400b-healthcare-puzzle "Now Ben David, a partner with Israel-based Viola Ventures, is part of a crop of VC investors betting on a fintech solution that allows patients to pay for healthcare

[FRIAM] undefined semantics

Morpheus: A Vulnerability-Tolerant Secure Architecture Based on Ensembles of Moving Target Defenses with Churn https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3297858.3304037 "Abstract Attacks often succeed by abusing the gap between program and machine-level semantics– for example, by locating a sensitive point

Re: [FRIAM] “Don’t they have grandchildren?” was The case for universal basic income UBI

Only about 100,000 times. >8^D The trick is whether or not you believe that sort of modeling is mechanistic or *merely* generative. On 5/21/21 2:08 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Did I already post this here? > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228446085_Simulation_validation_using_Caus

[FRIAM] conversations with the wak!

This is an old article (2016). I wish I'd learned about it sooner. GScholar shows 37 citations I *should*, but probably won't, go through. Changing Conspiracy Beliefs through Rationality and Ridiculing https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.01525/full "Conspiracy theory (CT) be

Re: [FRIAM] “Don’t they have grandchildren?” was The case for universal basic income UBI

Well, to be clear, it wasn't (I don't think) Russ' rhetoric but Weintrobe via McKibbon. Russ was simply pointing it out to us. But further, Weintrobe's argument seems to be (I haven't read the book, only a couple of reviews of it) a mechanistic explanation for how we in the northern hemisphere

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

I'm also wondering if there's a similar result for hypergraphs to the "parallelism theorem", which might state that any hypergraph can be perfectly "simulated" by an ordinary graph. On 5/19/21 11:28 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > I can't help but wonder if the

Re: [FRIAM] “Don’t they have grandchildren?” was The case for universal basic income UBI

There's a layering in the relationship between fact and opinion. And what the postmodernists warned us about is that many of us are unable to unravel those layers. The idea that there exist absolute facts and (mere) interpretations of those facts can often be an indicator for the inability to un

Re: [FRIAM] “Don’t they have grandchildren?” was The case for universal basic income UBI

Interesting. We hear from righties like Brett Weinstein and Ben Shapiro all the time how postmodernists' "relativism" is diluting our culture and sending us on the path to Hell. Is this such a relativism? I'm reminded of the "all sides" fallacy or the snowflake idea that any arbitrary opinion

[FRIAM] the covid endemic

Some good news, albeit pre-print: Infection and vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody responses to the SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617.1 variant https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.09.443299v1.full -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Grou

Re: [FRIAM] Morphogenisis

I can't help but wonder if the hypergraph is something like a *modal* graph, or perhaps a *slice* through a graph. EricS' suggestion of concurrency raises POSET flow. But if the edges and nodes are of different types, then a query like "select a graph with {edges of type E1}" project the thing (

[FRIAM] Schemeflood.com

Exploiting custom protocol handlers for cross-browser tracking in Tor, Safari, Chrome and Firefox https://fingerprintjs.com/blog/external-protocol-flooding/ https://github.com/fingerprintjs/external-protocol-flooding -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Appl

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Wow. That reads like good, hard science fiction. In my skim, the only thing I missed was an adversarial effort, positioning of white, black, and grey hatted *attacks*. There was plenty of waterfall-like structure for assessing vulnerability. But I missed the adversarial effort. Is it in there? I

[FRIAM] dynamic networks (was: UBI)

lls may be problematic to some. He was shocked and asked why. But I backed off because of the current Israeli-Palestinian escalation. We'd already almost come to blows about the free will of the praying mantis. 8^D On 5/12/21 7:41 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > That's an excellent question.

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I think your (and Dave's and Pieter's) conceptions are too limited, too local. I don't know what explicit 3 types of reciprocity Dave might register. But I guess my thinking is polluted by generic influence, up- and down-regulation, correlative and causative. The structure of the network matters

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

That's an excellent question. I've only had the chance to glance at those 3 cites. To decide how they could help propagate signals would take more investment. It would be helpful if you could give a short blurb about why each one came to mind as appropriate for reciprocity. I remember you mentio

[FRIAM] CS on CC

http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2021/05/because-i-am-bored.html Ranting is an art. -- ↙↙↙ uǝlƃ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailm

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Well, as I tried to imply in my response about transitivity, reciprocity is *merely* a specific type of a more general thing. And though I doubt reciprocity can generate gratitude and selflessness, that general thing might. That generalized reciprocity is implied in this article: The miracle of

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

One of the reasons I have trouble dealing with the logical connective "tonk" is the idea that it becomes a reasonable connective in logics where you abandon transitivity. This same problem rears in conceptions of N-ary agreements. For example, if Alice gives Joe a gift, then Joe re-gifts that to

Re: [FRIAM] Smart-Contracts: was UBI

Yes! I'd love it if someone more knowledgeable would deign to chip in. As I understand it, smart contracts would do the banal computation showing how various agreements intertwine. So, if I've signed 5 NDAs with 5 different companies, 2 of which were founded by the same yahoo, 1 of which is a de

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

On 5/10/21 12:10 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > > • civilization is already a cooperative enterprise, it's just a matter of > cooperation's extent/ubiquity > > Agree. That's one of the reasons Trump's norm-breaking was so > destructive. > > • there's nothing supernatural, so all so

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

ink that's appropriate. It's not clear to me that I'm "putting the cart > before the horse"  as you say.  > _ > _ > __-- Russ  > > On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 11:15 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > No, I'm no

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

society can get along without > something like a money-like ruler as a way to establish basic comparisons as > at least the starting points of many if not most exchanges.  > _ > _ > __-- Russ Abbott                                       > Professor, Computer Science > California State Unive

[FRIAM] hypothetical savings in persuading the vaccine hesitant

Lives and Costs Saved by Expanding and Expediting COVID-19 Vaccination https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiab233/6267841 "Methods We developed a computational model (transmission and age-stratified clinical and economics outcome model) representing the US populatio

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Using wooden chits *and* US dollars limits overly reductive conceptions of money. It's fine to play word games and point out ambiguity in the usage of the term "money". But it should be clear that, like with languages, having diverse types of money is less reductive than 1 type of money. I'd no

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yes, I agree it's difficult. And I'm not suggesting I have any knowledge or expertise. But the principles I listed were intended as a foundation. Given that foundation, it's difficult for me to imagine *not* having anything other than money in common with any other trader. That extreme case, whe

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

Yes, you're doing a good job of laying out why one's stance on some issue can be inertial, robust to perturbation. And it's useful to note that "trust" is a spectrum. I don't trust Reason, especially not Gillespie. But that doesn't mean I don't read it and, however, negligibly, fold what I read

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

The article says directly, as you quote, "almost all of the time that it took to bring the vaccines to market was due to safety testing and other governmental mandates THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SPED UP WITHOUT ENDANGERING ANYONE." All caps are my emphasis. Reason is an anti-government magazine assoc

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

Well, FWIW, posts like this help me. I'm particularly susceptible to over-simplification, especially when it comes in an optimistic package. I need all 3 of realism, pessimism, and cynicism to keep my episodic forgetting in check. In particular, here, your remembering: • the complicated calculu

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

outu.be/9bbINLWtMKI On 5/6/21 1:05 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > On 5/6/21 12:23 PM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: >> >> https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-ideas-that-are-reshaping-the-democratic-party-and-america/ >>     6. People should be able to identify as whatever gender

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

No, that's not a principle of Wokeism. It may be a reactionary misunderstanding of what's being said. (More likely it's an absurdist strawman, intended to help you *avoid* hearing what's being said.) But if you listen closer, you might actually hear what's being said. This article does a pretty

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

For the Frank's among us, it's important to note that this paper is unrelated to hydroxychlorquine and its applicability to COVID-19. That's a troll baiting the reader into some rhetoric about postmodernism and the relationship between [in]formal methods. But regardless of the trip down the rab

Re: [FRIAM] FW: Covid-Lancet-PART-2 (002).doc

Not hearing back is not the equivalent of being ignored. I got as far as the 1st few paragraphs, then checking Pavlovic's credentials. I decided I'd read it. Then completely forgot about it. We have to check our American tendencies. "I want it all! I want it NOW!" 8^D I'll respond after I've rea

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

This larger issue of problematic sources for good ideas came up again the other night when someone chastised me for owning a Ford, because, you know, he donated to Hitler's campaign. It was the opposite of my argument that attacking a brand isn't attacking the person. In his case, he was attacki

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

7;m sure the above is too vague. But it's the best I can do. As I tried to make clear *I* have no idea what could replace capitalism. I don't even understand socialism. Smarter people than me would have to work it out. On 5/5/21 4:15 PM, Russ Abbott wrote: > Earlier, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ said: 

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yeah, I agree. But as the miscommunication about the dimension of simplices vs. orthogonal dimensionality seems to indicate, reduction need not imply linearity, and if reduction is used iteratively to discover interestingness, that provenance/method/algorithm need not be lost (1st order Markovia

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

This bleeds back into my response to (c), which in essence was that we *need* diversity. One huge problem with technology is that tools bias the projects within which they're used. (To a hammer everything looks like a nail.) Hearkening to Ashby, if the diversity of the robots fails to match the

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Reduction. All things in moderation, including moderation. Reduction is a triumph, if it captures what you're looking for. And fiat currency has done great things for the world, a cultural technology that allows us to explore possibilities we wouldn't have otherwise explored. Financial instrumen

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Well, it depends. My preference would be to replace our money-based subsistence on something else, some collectivist way of cooperating that differs fundamentally from the market-based way we think about these things. But that would be revolutionary, not evolutionary. And, unlike the Marxists, I

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

OK. Well, if Andrew were here, I'd be happy to discuss it with him. But he's not and you are. The link you sent is to Ben Shapiro's brand marketing channel. Anyone who wants Ben Shapiro to make more money, please watch it and hit those like and subscribe buttons. 8^D On 5/4/21 9:24 AM, Pieter

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

I disagree with the argument, one could argue that tipping exacerbates the problem, participates in the hoodwink that such gigs are in any way sustainable. A better answer is to allow them the resources to find more meaningful ways to use their time. On 5/4/21 8:28 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Hm.

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Hm. OK. If you'd prefer to talk about UBI (instead of my postscript), how about responses to these points: On 5/4/21 6:35 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > a) How many people need employment for meaning? 10? 1M? How was that data > gathered? Where is that data? > > Worse yet, in a world

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

Yes, I understand you might feel that way. But this is part of the shtick. It's a rhetorical tactic that very smart trolls hone and use well. To get a better understanding of who you're listening to (one of the Five W's), this article lays it out well: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/ho

Re: [FRIAM] The case for universal basic income UBI

a) How many people need employment for meaning? 10? 1M? How was that data gathered? Where is that data? Worse yet, in a world defined such that you *die* unless you're employed, it's circular reasoning to argue that employment gives meaning to life. The only way to escape such a vicious circle

[FRIAM] ruined my friday afternoon

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/30/colorado-police-loveland-officers-resign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmtxTWTTdC4 We met a guy the other day who countered our assertion that jury duty is a civil duty with "You don't want me on your jury!" He claimed he would *always* take the

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Well, sure. But it's a good idea to limit the extent to which you embed semantics into your syntax. Rationalist, used at the beginning of the sentence, when the convention is to capitalize the words at the beginning of the sentence, looks no different from Rationalist, used later in the sentence

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

No, you're not a member of the population I point at with "rationalist". I guess it's ambiguous like "scientist" vs "scientismist" ... or "woke" vs. "wokeist". The rationalists are a fairly well-defined community of tech-savvy intellectuals who engage in things like Effective Altruism (e.g. get

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Ha! Well, no worries. Not only are liberal arts unis dying rapidly, the entire university system is dying, which is why, as problematic as it is, https://www.mikeroweworks.org/ is a good thing in principle. The rationalists are like refined royals clutching their pearls in response to naughty wo

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Living near Evergreen has helped me come to a similar conclusion, that I might learn quite a bit from the rationalist bogeys "postmodern", "gender studies", etc. I regularly meet graduates from Evergreen in arguments with libertarians and right wingers in the pubs. I haven't met too many rationa

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Obviously. But it's a bit revisionist to project our data-driven inductivism back into the past. The not-true, not-false hand-waving McLaren points out was not a Noble lie told to prep everyone for the day when induction would work. They were spreading bullsh¡t for their own purposes. Had they

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

To make that claim, you'd have to walk through all the medicine that's happening, analgesics, physical therapy, acupuncture, dentistry, etc.. Walking through the psychiatry that's happening is a much smaller task. I agree there does seem to be a lot of it, though ... I just have no idea if it's

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/306068036_Psychiatry_as_Bullshit On 4/29/21 3:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Jon, > > I am sorry I disappointed you.  My understanding of object relations theory > is like swiss cheese and I chose not to provide an inadequate response by > humming a few

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Literacy is hard applies to the ability to use email clients, too. >8^D It's almost as if Jon's comment is *general*. On 4/29/21 2:30 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Jon, > > How can we tell which comment you are being snarky about if you don't > include the thing you are responding to. >

Re: [FRIAM] Natures_Queer_Performativity_the_authori.pdf

Though I can't parse Barad, herself, I do like agential realism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agential_realism And this criticism seems useful: Barad, Bohr, and quantum mechanics https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11229-021-03160-1 On 4/29/21 3:31 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Now *that's* a reasonable criticism, much better than the simple *command* telling me to stop doing something. Had you lead with "I don't think your cap-doffing is useful here". I would have probably said "Oh well, maybe you're right." On 4/28/21 12:22 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Well,

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Oh, I definitely believe in qualifications and accreditation. My entire professional career depends fundamentally on meeting standards and putting some degree of faith in "validated" things. So when I tell you I'm a moron, you'd best believe it ... even if it hasn't yet "played out" for you, yet

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

e?) eat because > they are hungry?   I've had dogs who appear to be hungry all the time, > or at least anytime they are in the presence of food, or a human who > might respond to their begging by getting them some food.   > > On 4/28/21 11:28 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: >> Yes, yo

Re: [FRIAM] What makes you who you are?

Yes, you do. Interoceptive hunger *is* observing yourself preparing to eat. The question is, at what *order* of organization (2nd? 10th? Nth? order) does "I" kick in? On 4/28/21 10:19 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I do not infer that I'm hungry by observing that I am preparing to eat.  As > you

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Well, I've always admired the Monty Python troupe's ability to *sustain* absurdity. It's relatively easy to be absurd for something as small as a minute long joke. But to do a 5 minute or more skit is impressive. If Wolfram adopts his ridiculous tone merely to antagonize people, that would be e

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Of course. ... I realize I'm making a nonstandard argument. Often I regret trying to push the envelope like this because then I have to spend time trying to explain what I think, to little avail, probably because my thinking is sloppy. I don't know why I keep doing it ... too few nights at the

[FRIAM] interesting scoping

Belief propagation for networks with loops https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/17/eabf1211.abstract > Our method operates by dividing a network into neighborhoods (20). A > neighborhood Ni(r) around node i is defined as the node iitself and > all of its edges and neighboring no

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Let me say it another way. I think gene guns are an evolutionary operator like sexual crossover. But that doesn't quite get at what I'm saying either, because it still targets DNA. So I'll also say that the marketing campaign by cereal companies to get us to eat breakfast every day is *also* an

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

nd will > likely perish. Probably, most all short lived species will evolve and adapt. > > Man, being a long-lived species should — and would, if left to > glacial-tempo-evolution — perish but may not because rapid-tempo-evolution > alters the time-frame for response. > > dav

Re: [FRIAM] for the marketeers amongst us

7;t more "free" than the regulated market? In my > understanding of "free" the contract-governed market is more free; I end up > with dentures and the enterprising man makes a profit. In the free market > case the outcome is win-win and the regulated market case lose-l

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

It's sentences like "outstrips the phenotype/genotype evolution" that confuse me. I can twist my mind into restricting *generators* to mean sub-strands of DNA and the machinery that manipulates it. And I can twist my mind into restricting "phenotype" to be those traits that *seem* to be more gov

Re: [FRIAM] for the marketeers amongst us

dentist and an > enterprising man making good money. With the regulations that protect people > we now have an unemployed poor enterprising man and many people who are still > without front teeth.   > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 19:49, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> w

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

Both of these (using CRISPR to edit away the problem or where to draw the line between selected and selector) seem to miss the larger point, which is that "natural" selection is a kind of metaphysical "top turtle". No matter how grandiose our engineering scheme, no matter how high and total-uni

Re: [FRIAM] semi-idle question

IDK. This thread seems polluted with some sort of arrogant premise that "natural selection" doesn't include cultural selection *or* engineering. The "natural" in natural selection doesn't mean the same thing it means when you see it on a green-washed plastic package in the grocery store or at yo

[FRIAM] for the marketeers amongst us

Should everyone be paid based on merit/outcome? E.g. I go to the oncologist because cytometry tests show I have stage 4 lymphoma. We go through a years long treatment, at the end of which I may be a responder or a non-responder. A free marketeer *should* argue that the oncologist shouldn't be pa

Re: [FRIAM] thermodynamics of gambling demons

Thanks! Unpaywall found this one: https://acris.aalto.fi/ws/portalfiles/portal/61158210/Manzano_Thermodynamics.PhysRevLett.126.080603.pdf But arxiv's versioning comforts me. On 4/23/21 7:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.01630 > > -- r

Re: [FRIAM] types of knowledge

So, I don't know if I'll get a chance to log into the zoom today. But, I've written and deleted 2 responses to this (seemingly trolling [⛧]) post. But in listening to this during my shower: Nonreligious Americans Are A Growing Political Force https://youtu.be/AyRu1OtZutI I've heard you object t

[FRIAM] ha! more on water

Climate crisis has shifted the Earth’s axis, study shows https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/23/climate-crisis-has-shifted-the-earths-axis-study-shows > The research, published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, showed > glacial losses accounted for most of the shift, but

Re: [FRIAM] types of knowledge

It took me awhile to figure out why your post caused me a bit of dissonance. But I think the 2 comments below sharpen it. *Too often*, people take themselves and others too seriously. Once someone's *infected* with the idea that ideas are somehow important, they slip-n-slide into taking abstract

Re: [FRIAM] types of knowledge

Thankfully, no. It was just white and bumpy, kinda like fine-grained hardened cottage cheese ... which I find disgusting ... like most milk products. On 4/22/21 9:58 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Glen writes: > >> [⛤] I had a nightmare the other night where all my friends were trying to >> get me

[FRIAM] types of knowledge

With millions looking for work, stigmas create a dearth of skilled tradespeople https://youtu.be/c4s-4fK5r0w Listening to an interview of this guy , I was glad to hear him address the sterility of the Western philosophy, the ideal, or "pure academy

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

word “plastics” in his > 1967 screenplay for /The Graduate/ (/1/ > <https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6539/246#ref-1>). AI, machine > learning, and other concepts are here understood as efforts, practices, and > embodied material manipulations of the levers of global power. >

[FRIAM] speaking of eschatological thinking

Depression (anxiety et al) seem, to me, like a contributing factor. This article triggered me yesterday: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/20/psychedelics-depression-treatment-psychiatry-psilocybin But more relevant to tragic story-telling and pessimism is the effect psi has on

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

sage- >> From: Friam On Behalf Of David Eric Smith >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2021 10:23 PM >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets) >> >> This was a nice read, Glen, thank you

Re: [FRIAM] the tragedy of the voice operated lights

Ha! We recently had the grandkids+daughter-in-law here, adding 5 for a total of 7 people, each of which with at least 1 wifi device in addition to our 3 rokus, 2 phones, weather monitor, PS3, and Renee's laptop. I could *feel* my neoplasms growing. (Yes, that's a joke.) I can only imagine what t

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

Yeah, when I incorporated back in '01, I did it in Oregon, knowing we were likely to move there within a few years. All my advisors said that was a mistake, that I should incorporate in Delaware or somesuch. I was more libertarian, then. But even then, my ethos was to try to contribute to my lo

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

But that's (largley) the theme of the Chiang interview, technology isn't commensurate with selfish/evil/altruist/good individuals. Technology goes it's own systemic way, regardless of the specialness of the components involved. Capitalism requires an underclass ... if not *desperately* poor, reg

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

I think what's missing in that story is the context about how it came to be that a) there exist desperately poor people who need that water and b) the rules/charity system that deigns to gift that water to those people. Pick away at the gloss that *appears* kilned into the material, and you'll u

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

their profits at our expense?" On 4/19/21 8:01 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Ha! Sure. ... it still looks like SteveS called it with the Red Queen's Race. > Even if such tech solves more problems than it creates, it'll still be > distributed according to the power structures in place (

Re: [FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

ets) > > Copper? Natural gas? Pffft! Water's the interesting one. > > https://theconversation.com/interstate-water-wars-are-heating-up-along-with-the-climate-159092 > > And another one: > https://www.theolympian.com/news/business/article250595449.html > > On 4/15

[FRIAM] water, again (was murder offsets)

Copper? Natural gas? Pffft! Water's the interesting one. https://theconversation.com/interstate-water-wars-are-heating-up-along-with-the-climate-159092 And another one: https://www.theolympian.com/news/business/article250595449.html On 4/15/21 7:59 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > Another good ex

[FRIAM] Ultrasurf

Falun Gong, Steve Bannon And The Trump-Era Battle Over Internet Freedom https://www.npr.org/2021/04/14/986982387/falun-gong-steve-bannon-and-the-trump-era-battle-over-internet-freedom The SMMRY: https://smmry.com/https://www.npr.org/2021/04/14/986982387/falun-gong-steve-bannon-and-the-trump-era-

Re: [FRIAM] murder offsets

That's completely reasonable. And I admit to having dabbled in *coins. But the larger issue of stocks and flows is more interesting. What interests me most is the use of stocks to harmonize a diversity of flow rates. There, storage is a means to an end, not an end in itself. And it's important t

[FRIAM] murder offsets

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[FRIAM] open-endedness

This article was very interesting: IQ Shredders https://web.archive.org/web/20180222152845/http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/ I don't really buy the story it's telling. But it strikes me as a particular example of Goodhart's Law or the relat

Re: [FRIAM] Religious Imagination: The Archer

Ouch, that is SO WRONG! Atheists got *all* tunes. Local atheists and [th|d]eists are the ones with too few songs. Agnostics and global atheists are free to pick and choose, cafeteria style, which tunes they like and which they don't. We got more songs than you! Na, na, na, na, na. And we can

Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic

Ha! OK. I'll try to read that. I read the abstract 4 times and still don't know what I'm about to read. I read the introduction once and still don't know what to expect. My next step is the Discussion, then the meat. If you care to toss a bone, I'd appreciate it. But then again, you might be rew

Re: [FRIAM] Effigification

Yeah, that's a good point. I was surreptitiously undermined at both the dot-coms I worked for. At one of them, I confronted the guy I suspected of doing so in a small meeting with his closest allies. He took that opportunity to argue to his allies that I'd been "jockeying" for some higher rung i

Re: [FRIAM] Effigification

ething seriously criticizable but provided the criticizers no refined way of criticizing? On 4/8/21 11:04 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote: > > But (mildly?)_ obscured (to me) is whether you consider the > straw<->steel man continuum to in fact be *effigies*? >

Re: [FRIAM] lockdowns

I mean ... [sigh] ... if we take these meta-statements seriously, we can imagine someone promoting an attribute to a property ... something like reification. The setup of a proposition {P} and a meta-proposition like {P is True} is too loaded. It would be easier to take something like {Apple} an

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