Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-23 Thread Douglas Roberts
:) On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Arlo Barnes arlo.bar...@gmail.com wrote: You mean...he has gone to the Vi side? :P -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-22 Thread Arlo Barnes
You mean...he has gone to the Vi side? :P -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Owen Densmore
Nick: Just in case it wasn't clear, the friam list is on two mail archives that are searchable, although not particularly well. Try Googling: friam redfish nick thompson or: friam redfish Preserving email correspondence or simply searching

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Owen Densmore
Nick: could you do me a favor? After all the input, could you sorta play scenarios or prototypes? These are common design practices that take an idea and actually mock it up. Scenarios include workflow .. i.e. how the design is used on a daily, weekly, and archive basis. Prototypes are a crude

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Ron Newman
I'm willing to donate a FRIAM license of MyIdeaTreehttp://www.myideatree.com(drag and drop building of network graphs from links). I'd learn a ton about usability from that. The email / blog content would have to be located on the web somewhere. Ron On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Owen

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence Nick: Just in case it wasn't clear, the friam list is on two mail archives that are searchable, although not particularly well. Try Googling: friam redfish nick thompson or: friam redfish Preserving email

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Nicholas Thompson
: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:46 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence Nick: could you do me a favor? After all the input, could you sorta play

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Barry MacKichan
Interesting... Here are some ideas to think about or shoot down. Is there a role for different types of arrows between entities? I can imagine writing something and wanting to indicate that it is in response to (a particular paragraph?) of a particular email, but I might also want to point

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:01:21PM -0700, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Thanks, Owen. I fooled around with the problem a bit more yesterday and immediately encountered a problem I hadn't expected. It was easy to collect all the emails from one them in one place, but NOT easy to get an

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Douglas Roberts
Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Russell Standish r.stand...@unsw.edu.auwrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:01:21PM -0700, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Thanks, Owen. I fooled around with the problem a bit more yesterday and immediately

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Russell Standish
But the tools I mentioned are also available on Windows. The main things to avoid are webmail and the P.O.S. called Outlook. Cheers On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 03:34:53PM -0700, Douglas Roberts wrote: Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Russell

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Ron Newman
Barry, Yes, arrows can be of different types. Colors are now supported in the UI. Styles (dotted, etc.) are supported in the backend, only awaiting an afternoon to put in the UI to select the style you want. Weighting of arrows is also supported, currently being saved in the shared database,

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Ron Newman
P.S., I forgot to mention, there's an API for all of this, to generate graphs programatically should that become applicable. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Newman ron.new...@gmail.com wrote: Barry, Yes, arrows can be of different types. Colors are now supported in the UI. Styles

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Owen Densmore
Right. When we were messing around with SFX's sys admin model, I found archives for both friam and sfx and found that with a fairly small effort (l1/2 hr say) could convert them between various formats. This was needed for an experiment to save the early friam material and to get sfx onto

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/21/13 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. Unix tools are not the best for this kind of task. One would better served with a programmable editor or e-mail client that can traverse lines and work in terms of sentences and paragraphs. One

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-21 Thread Douglas Roberts
Um, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not an Emacs user. Quite the opposite, probably. On Jan 21, 2013 6:33 PM, Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote: On 1/21/13 3:34 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Uh, I'm gonna guess that Nick is not a Unix user. Unix tools are not the best for this kind of

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Nicholas Thompson
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence All - In defense of Nick, I appreciate how he could come to why cant we just As a systems developer with a little experience around natural language processing, I agree with Doug and Owen

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Roger Critchlow
how it worked. Or where it is. N -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:23 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence All

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Nicholas Thompson
[mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:51 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence So, the thread exists in the archives at redfish, or where ever, and will continue

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 01:14:24PM -0700, Nicholas Thompson wrote: I don't think I ever said, why cant we just Did I? I had forgotten about noodles. I can't even remember how it worked. Or where it is. N In some ways, the new social media are attempts at moving email

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Steve Smith
Nick - I don't think I ever said, why cant we just Did I? Only in Doug's mind, then in mine... and gawd knows who else's mind it has infected by now. I had forgotten about noodles. I can't even remember how it worked. Or where it is. It was what you referenced in another subthread from

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Steve Smith
When Nick first unlimbered his big bold naivete in asking the question or suggesting there was an answer, I rolled my eyes just a little, sighed and thought not again!, but as it has unfolded, I have to give him credit, along with the other participants in thinking a little harder about it and

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread lrudolph
Nick, I have avoided larding by quoting nothing whatever. That should help my concentrate your attention on the point that I think is most important, which I have not seen you address at all (but I may have missed it): WHAT IS YOUR END-IN-VIEW? My previous claim, that (larded) e-mail

Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email correspondence

2013-01-19 Thread Eric Charles
Charles Assistant Professor of Psychology Penn State, Altoona - Original Message - From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Preserving email