Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Nervox Nervox
On 11/3/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kroenenbourg is swill. :-) Kronenbourg 1664 is very nice (and about the only one exported here). - ferg (stationed in Germany for 6 years a long time ago) During WWII ? As for German whine, IIRC Alsace has some very nice whine, but can it be

[funsec] New PGP key...

2006-11-03 Thread Fergie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Type bits /keyIDDate User ID pub 2048R/9A04772D 2006/11/03 Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.5.1 (Build 1557) wsBVAwUBR

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:56:32 +0200, Nervox Nervox said: > As for German whine, IIRC Alsace has some very nice whine But of course, the *best* whine comes from Washington DC, where all the right-leaning bloggers are complaining about liberal concepts like "truth". 2006 will go down as a fine vinta

Re: [funsec] New PGP key...

2006-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:15:30 GMT, Fergie said: > Type bits /keyIDDate User ID > pub 2048R/9A04772D 2006/11/03 Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Paul Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Usually it's customary to actually include an ascii-armored copy of the pub

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Heh. Well ... the company beer here is Foster's (don't be impressed, brewed by FBG in Toronta, about as "Oz" as Dubya) and only when I pull lawn mowing duty do we get any Urquell ... compared to Buttweiser, it's not BAD swill. I'll take a Kroenie or Dortmunder ANY day. =) Pop me one of them

RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread David Harley
> Is there any OS X malware (as defined in my blog entry) that I'm missing? Seems to cover most things. Good luck. In my experience, the dialogues usually go along the lines of: There is no Mac malware. Well, there's no OS X malware. Well, that's not a virus/worm, it's a Trojan. You can't slip an

RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Larry Seltzer
I'm a PC> I've got this wart on my dick I'm a Mac> Those things only happen to other people Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/ Contributing Editor, PC Magazine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread David Harley
> I'm a PC> I've got this wart on my dick I did once describe an AV product as having a "somewhat warty interface" on alt.comp.virus, but that isn't quite what I meant. ;-) -- David Harley Security Author & Consultant Small Blue-Green World [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:59:39 EST, Larry Seltzer said: > I'm a PC> I've got this wart on my dick And users, being users, try to ignore the wart or make it go away by rubbing octopus oil or something equally ineffective on it, and don't seek qualified professional help until it's grown to the size

RE: RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Larry Seltzer
>>Umm.. Hmmm.. maybe it's not a perfect analogy. Chalk it up to the limits of personification. But you know, octopus oil isn't even available for the Mac. Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blog.eweek.com/blogs/larry%5Fseltzer/ Contributing Editor, P

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:56:32 +0200, Nervox Nervox said: > > > As for German whine, IIRC Alsace has some very nice whine > > But of course, the *best* whine comes from Washington DC, where all the > right-leaning bloggers are complaining about liberal

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Kevin McAleavey wrote: > Huh? Wha? MMMmm ... br. (drools) > > Actually, Kroenenbourg is pretty damned good swill, product of Alsace which > is close enough to France for U.S. DHS work. :) Do we need to quote Moty Python on American beer again? > At 10:51 PM 11/2

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Kevin McAleavey wrote: > Heh. Well ... the company beer here is Foster's (don't be impressed, brewed > by FBG in Toronta, about as "Oz" as Dubya) and only when I pull lawn mowing > duty do we get any Urquell ... compared to Buttweiser, it's not BAD swill. > I'll take a Kroen

RE: RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread David Harley
> But you know, octopus oil isn't even available for the Mac. But there's an open source solution called snake oil which is much better at removing warts, and doesn't cost anything. -- David Harley Security Author & Consultant Small Blue-Green World [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

RE: RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Nick FitzGerald
David Harley wrote: > But there's an open source solution called snake oil... You sure? I thought it was clam juice... Regards, Nick FitzGerald ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec

RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Larry Seltzer wrote: > I'm a PC> I've got this wart on my dick > > I'm a Mac> Those things only happen to other people Yeah -- Macs only get warts in their arses... Regards, Nick FitzGerald ___ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https:

RE: RE: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread David Harley
> I thought it was clam juice... That's a strange place to have a clam. Oh, just a minute, it's a barnacle. Eeuggh. Time I changed my bath water. -- David Harley Security Author & Consultant Small Blue-Green World [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fun and Misc

Re: [funsec] U.S. Web Archive Is Said to Reveal a Nuclear Guide

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The New York Times. [snip] Last March, the federal government set up a Web site to make public a vast archive of Iraqi documents captured during the war. The Bush administration did so under pressure from Congressional Republicans who had said they

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Nervox Nervox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/3/06, Fergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kroenenbourg is swill. :-) Kronenbourg 1664 is very nice (and about the only one exported here). I'll second that, tried it (around 4 or 5 times) two weeks ago for the first time. I still prefe

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread David Lodge
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:09:07 -, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As to Buddweiser: 1. The Czeck beer is amazing. Their continued trademark wars world-wide realy are funny, the .cz guys always win. 2. The US bud is what the Americans did with the .CZ one: they drank it, and then pissed in

Re: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Blue Boar
David Harley wrote: There is no Mac malware. Well, there's no OS X malware. Well, that's not a virus/worm, it's a Trojan. You can't slip anything past the Apple update system. You can't compromise a Mac because you need root privileges. What's a rootkit? What's social engineering? Why are you bot

RE: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug fo r tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Richards, Jim
If one likes belgian trappist beer, westmalle dubbel or trippel (spelling may not be accurate) are my favorites. There was a pub in Delft NL called the trappistelocaal which I would basically live in at night while working in Delft. Never had a trappist ale there I didn't love. Is it noon yet?

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Heh. Nope ... too cold to go paddling around upstate Noo Yawk this time of year. (grin) Then Americans go "north of the border" and create an international incident by complaining that CANADIAN beer sucks. Granted, Labatt's is an acquired taste (I don't DRINK American beer, I can water GOOD

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
While so many of our whiners wince about former President Jimmy Carter, one of the BEST things he did was change Amarican law to permit people to brew "reasonable quantities" of beer at home ... and back in the days before the explosion of malware, I used to brew QUITE a bit of beer myself ...

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Dunno if you can find it out your way, but the former Matt's Brewing company here in upstate New York puts out a brand called "Saranac" and for a local microbrew, their output is SUPERB ... everything from Porter to Pale ale and everything in between. VERY nicely done, very good price ... At 1

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alas, with the American economy in the toilet, all we can afford to keep me at the keyboard these days is Canadian Fosters' and I find that aspect funny. In the toilet? I'm getting a job offer a day. The stock market is at an all-time hi

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dunno if you can find it out your way, but the former Matt's Brewing company here in upstate New York puts out a brand called "Saranac" and for a local microbrew, their output is SUPERB ... everything from Porter to Pale ale and everything

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Knob Creek? I've HAD that and yes indeedy, it's delish! As for the economy, well ... comeuppance for the natterings of the Rush unit are only four days away. Glad to hear all's well for you - obviously an employee-type individual and not a "bring in the money" type (no offense) ... with GM, For

[funsec] ID theft set to double in Britain in next three years]

2006-11-03 Thread Randy Mueller
DrSolly! move to America!!! Original Message Subject: Viruslist.com - News - ID theft set to double in Britain in next three years Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 20:50:24 +0300 (MSK) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
If yer serious, be happy to ... will have to find out how much it'd cost. In the MEANTIME, because I don't want this message to go out TOO far behind the previous and get ya all riled, here's some goog on where it can be had - I spotted at least one eBay on the front page ... http://www.google

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, David Lodge wrote: > On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 12:09:07 -, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As to Buddweiser: > > 1. The Czeck beer is amazing. Their continued trademark wars world-wide > > realy are funny, the .cz guys always win. > > 2. The US bud is what the Americans

[funsec] Too much Beer in the morning?

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Knob Creek? I've HAD that and yes indeedy, it's delish! Try Maker's sometime. As for the economy, well ... comeuppance for the natterings of the Rush unit are only four days away. Glad to hear all's well for you - obviously an employee-

[funsec] Re: huh? [was: BEER THREAD!! been a year?]

2006-11-03 Thread Andrew
Kevin McAleavey wrote: I'd LOVE to give all the work I do every day for better than 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week without a vacation since 2001 for free, but alas, I'm sadly lacking in "free food, free car, free rent" because THEY "should be free" also. Maybe you should take a vac

RE: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug fo r tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Richards, Jim wrote: > If one likes belgian trappist beer, westmalle dubbel or trippel (spelling > may not be accurate) are my favorites. > > There was a pub in Delft NL called the trappistelocaal which I would > basically live in at night while working in Delft. Never had a

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If yer serious, be happy to ... will have to find out how much it'd cost. Costs could be high - especially since we're dealing with bottles. However there are beer clubs out there, will have to look into it. In the MEANTIME, because I do

Re: [funsec] ID theft set to double in Britain in next three years]

2006-11-03 Thread David Lodge
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:11:03 -, Randy Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DrSolly! move to America!!! Yep - this is due to our government trying to make vast centralised databases of all the UK's citizens and not applying basic security and process around them... Not a surprise :-

Re: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread der Mouse
>> There is no Mac malware. >> Well, [...] Actually, to be fair, there's a statistical sense in which there pretty much *is* no Mac malware. Not that that invalidates (what I see as) your real point, of course. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTM

Re: [funsec] Re: huh? [was: BEER THREAD!! been a year?]

2006-11-03 Thread der Mouse
>> I'd LOVE to give all the work I do every day for better than 12-16 >> hours a day, 7 days a week without a vacation since 2001 for free, >> but alas, I'm sadly lacking in "free food, free car, free rent" >> because THEY "should be free" also. > I read your post twice and was unable to make enou

Re: [funsec] OS X Malware?

2006-11-03 Thread Blue Boar
der Mouse wrote: There is no Mac malware. Well, [...] Actually, to be fair, there's a statistical sense in which there pretty much *is* no Mac malware. Not that that invalidates (what I see as) your real point, of course. Yes, and I acknowledge that. And it would be fair to point at my entr

RE: [funsec] Worst Idea Ever

2006-11-03 Thread Blanchard_Michael
so what's the worst idea ever? Ahhh I know, bowing down to a bunch of feminists and removing perfectly good toilets Mike B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dude VanWinkle Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:42 PM To: FunSec [List

[funsec] Wikipedia Blaster 'Fix' Points to Malware

2006-11-03 Thread Fergie
Via The Register. [snip] Hackers have hijacked links on a Wikipedia article to trick users into downloading malware. A piece on the German edition of Wikipedia was re-written to contain false information about a supposedly new version of the infamous Blaster worm, along with a link to a supposed

Re: [funsec] ID theft set to double in Britain in next three years]

2006-11-03 Thread Drsolly
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, David Lodge wrote: > On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 17:11:03 -, Randy Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > DrSolly! move to America!!! No chance. Why would I leave the best country in the world to live in a country where, I just discovered, it was illegal to brew your own

[funsec] Microsoft reselling Linux

2006-11-03 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116249026689311557- helTbrheLKgbaJ5iO5z40ZFCiOs_20061109.html?mod=blogs In other news, enormous flocks of pigs have been seen winging their way westward == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL P

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Heh. It's ALL water in the end. Some bottles just cost more than others. (grin) At 12:36 PM 11/3/06, Unca Gadi wrote: >Fuckiong too close to water I say!! Kevin McAleavey at your service Privacy Software Corporation http://www.nsclean.com

Re: [funsec] ID theft set to double in Britain in next three years]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
Now now ... a nation COMPLETELY lacking in GATSO's can't be all THAT awful. And yes, while prohibitionist Taliban prohibited us from basement suds in the past, I'm sure the RE-emerging Taliban won't take THAT right away from us again. They're too busy trampling all the others and well ... even

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for tal ent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin McAleavey
The shipping is the killer, no question there. Seriously though, if you can get your beerkeeper to "import" some, it's actually DANG GOOD for "domestic." And it already HAS its green card. Heh. Glad we agree on the "meeting of the mimes" ... I'm ex-libertarian, ex-republican, ex-cathedra ...

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Brian Loe
On 11/3/06, Kevin McAleavey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heh. It's ALL water in the end. Some bottles just cost more than others. (grin) At 12:36 PM 11/3/06, Unca Gadi wrote: >Fuckiong too close to water I say!! Lets note the history of beer in the Americas. There is a vast difference in the r

[funsec] Giggles

2006-11-03 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
This was sent to the CISSPforum, with the explanation: > If this doesn't cheer your day, nothing will. ;) > > http://www.humourr.com/divers/flash-214.html The quality is terrible, but it is just too cute to miss. == (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer) [EMAIL PROTECT

[funsec] Bio warfare -- hoax or real?

2006-11-03 Thread Alex Eckelberry
http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2006/021106focusgroup.htm A bizarre six minute video posted to the You Tube website claims to show a focus group responding to questions put to them by a moderator about how the U.S. government should react to a bio-attack, including what they should na

[funsec] Officer Claims Wife Put Pot in Meatballs

2006-11-03 Thread Gary Funck
[A new variation on: the dog ate my homework?] http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/11/03/ap3144747.html Officer Claims Wife Put Pot in Meatballs Associated Press 11.03.06, 4:16 PM ET A detective suspended after testing positive for drugs says his wife served him meatballs spiked

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Kevin McAleavey wrote: > Heh. It's ALL water in the end. Some bottles just cost more than others. > (grin) How dare you?! > > At 12:36 PM 11/3/06, Unca Gadi wrote: > >Fuckiong too close to water I say!! > > > Kevin McAl

[funsec] Digital Freedom and Boarding Passes

2006-11-03 Thread Gary Warner
Fun-sec'ers, Here's a note that I sent to my local InfraGard chapter on this one (thanks for some of the links from this mailing list.) Just for grins, I cc'ed Chris and one of his professors as well. They might appreciate an email of support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (as

[funsec] Gizmondo Ferrari Case Update: Mistrial in L.A.

2006-11-03 Thread Fergie
Via Reuters. [snip] A Los Angeles judge declared a mistrial on Friday in the theft and embezzlement trial of a Swedish former videogame executive who made worldwide headlines by destroying a rare $1 million Ferrari in a spectacular Malibu crash. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Patricia Schnegg

Re: [funsec] Bio warfare -- hoax or real?

2006-11-03 Thread Dude VanWinkle
It seems to me that the recent voting irregularities should be enough to start a riot. Not to mention the increased powers granted to the president by congress, the corruption scandals, altering of facts from the scientific community by industry leaders put into official positions specifically for

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Nick FitzGerald
Brian Loe wrote: > Finally, Budweiser and Bud Light are the best selling beers WORLD > wide, not just in the US (according to them anyway - and I don't doubt > it). Yes, but we were talking about _quality_, not mass-market appeal. The latter is generally achieved by "weakening" strong flavours

Re: BEER THREAD!! been a year? [was: Re: [funsec] Blatant plug for talent: We're hiring]

2006-11-03 Thread Dennis Henderson
imperializing popular culture).Pilsner is supposed to be hoppy, but of course, many folk are offended by the flavour of (most) hops, finding their sharp bitternessunpleasant.        Yep and Joe SixPack *hates* Bitter Beer... Gives you a bitter beer face   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYxRWjHzwQ

[funsec] Whacked Out Story of the Day: Naked Man Arrested with Concealed Weapon

2006-11-03 Thread Fergie
This was just too good not to pass along. Enjoy. :-) Via The Mercury News (AP). [snip] A naked man was arrested on suspicion of carrying a concealed weapon after telling police he had a screwdriver in his buttocks. The man was lying on a tree stump masturbating beside a nature path near the El

Re: [funsec] Whacked Out Story of the Day: Naked Man Arrested with Concealed Weapon

2006-11-03 Thread Blue Boar
Fergie wrote: The man was lying on a tree stump masturbating beside a nature path near the El Cerrito Bay Area Rapid Transit station Thursday, police said. I've been ignoring this story all day when I saw the headlines on fark.com and such, and it turns out to have happened down the street fr

[funsec] Florida Electronic Voting Machine Slays Nine

2006-11-03 Thread Fergie
Andy Borowitz: [snip] The state of Florida was on high alert today as an electronic voting machine that was being tested in advance of next Tuesday’s midterm election went berserk and killed nine in a terrifying rampage. The rogue machine, which Florida officials said was state of the art in tou

RE: [funsec] Month of Kernel Bugs - day 1

2006-11-03 Thread Craig Schmugar
> Without that exploit code, only select few can protect themselves, if at all. In principal I agree with you, but in practice (with public exploit code) I see few protecting themselves and a bunch exploited. Without the exploit code, I see few exploited. Yes, it's hard to assess how many are af

Re: [funsec] Bio warfare -- hoax or real?

2006-11-03 Thread Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
Date sent: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:00:38 -0500 From: Alex Eckelberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/november2006/021106focusgroup.htm Subject:[funsec] Bio warfare -- hoax or real? I vote hoax. I actually had the feeling that