Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-27 Thread csean
on 11/27/02 02:27, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Kyle has a good point in that many people do choose to do the right thing by their own standards, and I would agree with him on that. However, he weakens his own point by taking a pool of what his co-workers think is acceptable behavior.

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-27 Thread P . F . Grenier
On Wednesday, Nov 27, 2002, at 11:53 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The old tug-o-war 'tween rights and morality, with Kyle's own personal twist: morally questionable to file a legally valid though conscience-niggling insurance claim, morally correct (laudable?) to exercise your

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-27 Thread Laurent Daudelin
[snip!] As one of the list nanny on this list, can we put this thread to rest? Please? I don't see any useful information coming in anymore. If you have any belief or anything else you want to express, please, email privately to the related parties, not to the whole list. Let's move on, those

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-27 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/27/02 8:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: on 11/27/02 02:27, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Kyle has a good point in that many people do choose to do the right thing by their own standards, and I would agree with him on that. However, he

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/25/02 10:34 PM, Geoffrey Loeffler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: This is not theft and is very offensive to call it that, but it seems some lads have special privileges in the sand box. We all have the same rights. This is an interesting conversation. Try not to belittle

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread John Haumann
On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, at 02:55 AM, Obi-Wan wrote: Just a hypothetical question. Many have observed that hypothetical questions are are often about as useful as half a pair of pliers, and that they are typically employed to distract attention from a flawed argument whose wheels are

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread K
Well Stroked, John Regards, Mike K John Haumann wrote: On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, at 02:55 AM, Obi-Wan wrote: Just a hypothetical question. Many have observed that hypothetical questions are are often about as useful as half a pair of pliers, and that they are typically employed to

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread Marty Lindower
I vote this thread die a quick death... -- : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Marty Lindower: If you get confused, : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:listen to the music play...:

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread Bruce Johnson
Obi-Wan wrote: I asked a group of my friends and co-workers this morning and *all* of them thought that it was an accident on your part and that your insurance company should not be held responsible. How many of them are claims adjusters? How many had read his particular policy? The

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread James Rohde
On 11/26/02 1:39 AM G-Books John Haumann enlightened us by writing: Whether a claim is or isn't filed (for a covered peril) is up to the individual. That's the way it works. Insurance companies simply offer products with features that customers seem to want -- and are willing (or gullible

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread MikkiWokk
In a message dated 11/26/02 3:56:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is your personal opinion. He had a Powerbook 500 series and was able to buy a Pismo on eBay as a result of the insurance settlement. THAT is not fair business. Do the math and figure out the dates between the machines.

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-26 Thread Kathryn Odell
The plural of anecdote is NOT data. Great quote! Kate -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac

Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread K
Donald Keenan wrote: Is it common for both homeowners AND apartment insurance to cover mishaps other than fire or theft when it comes to replacing computers? How strict is the burden of proof? If someone spills beer, water, etc on a computer, this is considered a valid claim? This makes

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/25/02 1:12 AM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: ...Heard noise outside, ran to the door and dropped the 550... The display cracked and some stuff came loose inside..submitted a claim to Nationwide, they got an estimate of over $1000 to repair it so they sent me a check for

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Keith Ronan
My cat liked to sit on top of my $800.00 Sony Amplifier that I had in my Home Theatre System. One night I heard a very violent popping noise. After investigating I realized she had vomited into it while it was on. The popping was it shorting out. I had to dry it out and have it cleaned and

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread P . F . Grenier
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 06:47 US/Eastern, Obi-Wan wrote: On 11/25/02 1:12 AM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: ...Heard noise outside, ran to the door and dropped the 550... The display cracked and some stuff came loose inside..submitted a claim to Nationwide, they got

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread P . F . Grenier
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 07:10 US/Eastern, Keith Ronan wrote: My cat liked to sit on top of my $800.00 Sony Amplifier that I had in my Home Theatre System. One night I heard a very violent popping noise. After investigating I realized she had vomited into it while it was on. The

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread K
EXCUSE ME??? THEFT??? The damage occurred during the prevention of greater damage to my home...A police report was filed and the adjuster ( a Nationwide employee rather than an independent adjustment firm, BTW) had absolutely NO problem with the claim.. They could very easily have rejected

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Gene Merritt
No offense, but you feel it OK to ask your insurance company to pay for something like that? That seems a bit like theft to me. Can some other homeowners chime in and tell me that this is the norm? If I dropped my TiBook I would not look for a loophole of coverage...since it was my

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread csean
on 11/25/02 14:24, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: and dropped the 550... The display cracked and some stuff came loose inside..submitted a claim to Nationwide, they got an estimate of over $1000 to repair it so they sent me a check for $985 (after deductible)which I promptly used

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Keith Ronan
It's going to be one of those Mondays I think on the web:-0 Keith On 11/25/02 9:50 AM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EXCUSE ME??? THEFT??? The damage occurred during the prevention of greater damage to my home...A police report was filed and the adjuster ( a Nationwide employee

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Dan Knight
P.F.Grenier writes: Please, tell me you aren't serious. Insurance companies don't lose money. You are correct. They just keep raising rates so everyone helps bear the cost of insurance fraud. We lose; the insurance companies do not. Does that make you feel any better? -- Dan Knight,

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread P . F . Grenier
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 12:10 US/Eastern, Dan Knight wrote: P.F.Grenier writes: Please, tell me you aren't serious. Insurance companies don't lose money. You are correct. They just keep raising rates so everyone helps bear the cost of insurance fraud. We lose; the insurance

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread csean
on 11/25/02 17:58, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Please, tell me you aren't serious. Insurance companies don't lose money. You are correct. They just keep raising rates so everyone helps bear the cost of insurance fraud. We lose; the insurance companies do not. Does that make you

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Obi-Wan
On 11/25/02 6:50 AM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the Cybertrough: EXCUSE ME??? THEFT??? The damage occurred during the prevention of greater damage to my home...A police report was filed and the adjuster ( a Nationwide employee rather than an independent adjustment firm, BTW) had

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread John Haumann
On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 03:41 PM, Obi-Wan wrote: I asked a group of my friends and co-workers this morning and *all* of them thought that it was an accident on your part and that your insurance company should not be held responsible. My friend Theo stated that if you had used

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread sean weijand
As long as you tell the insurance company exactly what happened, then they are able to do with that info as they wish. if they cover you great, if not, not great, either way no fraud as far as i can see. sean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Justin
wasnt going to get into this one.but figured i might as well. i think whats going on, is people are making it an issue of morality, less so much a legality. if a company agrees to pay you for your neglect or clumsiness, thats their right to do so, its their business, and if their policy

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread sean weijand
A Toonie is only a couple of cents, isn't it?? Or is that just it's purchasing power? sean my toonie. (i think my opinion is worth more than a couple cents ;) -J -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread K
HHHMMM...I thought a Toonie was a lesser relative of the Canadian loonie.. On a more serious note, I seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest here...There was absolutely no attempt to defraud anyone...I reported truthfully to the police and to the ins. co as to exactly what happened...I asked the

Re: Insurance Coverage on BeerBooks et al

2002-11-25 Thread Geoffrey Loeffler
On Monday, Nov 25, 2002, at 05:50 US/Alaska, K wrote: EXCUSE ME??? THEFT??? The damage occurred during the prevention of greater damage to my home...A police report was filed and the adjuster ( a Nationwide employee rather than an independent adjustment firm, BTW) had absolutely NO