Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-21 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi, I don`t think any of the music is from the Apple Store... Aase :) If thats the law there, then thats the law there, and perhaps the music isnt from the Apple store at all, in which case any agreement with Apple would not exist... As for Tikkun Olam, its a term that has been used and abused f

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-20 Thread Al Poulin
Neither would most gentiles until you trigger a Google search on it. Al Poulin On Jan 20, 2005, "kochkodin" <"kochkodin"@verizon.net> wrote: Tikkun olam = ??? Never heard/saw that expression... Regards, Mike K Seth Austen wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-20 Thread kochkodin
Tikkun olam = ??? Never heard/saw that expression... Regards, Mike K Seth Austen wrote: On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-19 Thread Jason Rife
If thats the law there, then thats the law there, and perhaps the music isnt from the Apple store at all, in which case any agreement with Apple would not exist... As for Tikkun Olam, its a term that has been used and abused for decades to justify all sorts of behavior that has nothing to do wi

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-19 Thread Seth Austen
On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:07 AM, Tim Collier wrote: It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will continue my attempts at 'tikkun olam', but experience tells me that it's an uphill battle. G-books isn't the 1st place I'd expect to see mention of tikkun olam, but then again

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi again Nancy, I guess I will have to learn to hold my hands in a slightly different position... I think it really got a lot more sensitive because I have a fever at the moment. I tried earlier, and I really don`t have to physically touch the track pad... It is really annoying, because i type

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi all, I have not got to reading the other mails, been too busy today. But I see that obviously has been some discussion, and I just feel compelled to make one thing clear... I see that Ben pointed out one thing, you guys don`t know which situation I am in. Ben - you are so correct! :) (and BT

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi Tim, This is sort of a test too, because my last mail bounced, saying that my domain was black-listed... Please read my other mail, Tim. And to address specifically what you are saying... The system and software that is on this computer, is now mine. We are just talking about what came with

Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)

2005-01-18 Thread Ben Dyer
Good point -- I don't think there's any way of getting Mail to do that other than manually taking accounts offline, then bringing them back online when you want to check them. Cheers, Ben On 19 Jan 2005, at 03:36, Luis Sequeira wrote: I (almost) stand corrected. You're right that having differen

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Peter Webster
It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: >Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is >tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is >there now is NOT YOURS! >F

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Al Poulin
I applaud Tim for making his point in the first place. It is a valid one. On Jan 17, 2005, Tim Collier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter, read your own sig file and rethink that comment. Tim On 1/17/05 7:49 PM, "Peter Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a new year. Let's not go down that wha

Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)

2005-01-18 Thread Luis Sequeira
At this stage, the only feature you've mentioned that Mail doesn't have (set automatic check intervals on a per-account basis) is entirely unnecessary for anyone with an internet connection faster than a 14.4k modem. Cheers, Ben I (almost) stand corrected. You're right that having different inter

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Al Poulin
Yes indeed, you can change short names. Apple has a technical article for this, #106824. The MacAddict magazine, October '04 issue carried the same info. Also, there is something you can download from VersionTracker called ChangeShortName, but read the disclaimers first, something about leav

Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)

2005-01-18 Thread Ben Dyer
On 18 Jan 2005, at 22:57, Luis Sequeira wrote: Can you have your accounts with all different settings, such as using different SMTP servers for different accounts, on Mail? Yes. And I do. Can you have accounts that are checked for new mail at 5, or 30 minute intervals, others that are checked whe

Re: Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)

2005-01-18 Thread sacredsystem
Thus spoke Luis Sequeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>1/18/05 *Can you have your accounts with all different settings, such as using *different SMTP servers for different accounts, on Mail? * *Can you have accounts that are checked for new mail at 5, or 30 *minute intervals, others that are checked when y

Multiple mail accounts (was Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice)

2005-01-18 Thread Luis Sequeira
What's the problem with multiple accounts? I'm using 8 at the moment (5 IMAP, 2 POP, and 1 Exchange) without any issues at all. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 00:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts w

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Luis Sequeira
For a mail reader, I have used Eudora Pro (with ads) the past few years. I don't know if I should go for that on the new iBook. Can I import the mailboxes, address book etc. from the sys 9.2 PB to the new one? What do you guys use, and what do you think is the advantages with it. Whatever I use ha

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-18 Thread Tim Collier
Well, another thing to consider is that any music downloaded off of iTunes Music Store won't be able to be accessed unless he keeps the former user's account. If the former owner is 'OK' with this then. But I doubt it. It's just sad that we even have to remind others of the obvious. I will c

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: > One big thing just happened though... I am now typing on my new > iBook... Got it set up in a flash... I didn`t get it to work because > of a little, super silly mistake! That is how it often is, I think, I > just assume that it is much more s

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Nancy Lawrence
Aase--FWIW, the "jumpiness" of the trackpad on my ibook is something I'm still not used to, especially compared to my Pismo. I've fiddled with the settings on it and it doesn't seem to help, so I guess it's just something I'm stuck with. Enjoy your new 'book! On Jan 17, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Aase

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Ben Dyer
The original poster was asking for a solution to a technical issue, _not_ for moral guidance. There are situations where doing what he wants to do is legal, and situations where it isn't. Since we don't have enough information to determine which situation he's in, it seems prudent to let him de

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Ben Dyer
Perhaps I should have specified "from within System Preferences". If you want to give him instructions for screwing around with NetInfo, be my guest ;-) OS X doesn't force you to use a password. My account is the only one on this iBook, and I can remove my password completely just fine. It's a

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Tim Collier
Peter, read your own sig file and rethink that comment. Tim On 1/17/05 7:49 PM, "Peter Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road > again. > > > At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: >> Hey Ben, that's somebody else's

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Peter Webster
It's a new year. Let's not go down that what's-illegal-what's-legal road again. At 7:32 PM -0500 1/17/05, Tim Collier wrote: >Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is >tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is >there now is NOT YOURS! >F

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Tim Collier
Which, I point out again, isn't yours. Tim On 1/17/05 4:10 PM, "Aase Marit Waage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We`ll just have to transfer all the music, I just > can`t lose 35 Gigs of music... -- Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by and...

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Tim Collier
Hey Ben, that's somebody else's music! What you are suggesting is tantamount to theft. Aase, put your OWN music in iTunes, the stuff that is there now is NOT YOURS! For that matter, any software the previous owner left on it is NOT yours unless he gave you the install CD's and licenses. GUYS! Ti

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Tim Collier
On 1/17/05 10:01 AM, "Ben Dyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays > the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether > there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. > > You can't really change the accoun

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi Nancy, Thanks a lot! I don`t know if I have anybody who can do that. My best bet is probably just to start over... We`ll just have to transfer all the music, I just can`t lose 35 Gigs of music... One big thing just happened though... I am now typing on my new iBook... Got it set up in a fla

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Nancy Lawrence
Actually, you can change user short names, but you have to let someone do it who really knows what they're doing. The tech guy at my school did it for me when I bought my used Pismo. On Jan 17, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pan

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi Ben, Thanks a lot for your advice!!! I am going to forward it to work, I am taking my iBook with me tomorrow to do things there, borrowing my boss' external HDD. I actually bought an external HDD myself, a Freecom Classic 80GB one. My boss told me that I could just buy any USB HDD, and there

Re: Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Ben Dyer
On 18 Jan 2005, at 02:15, Aase Marit Waage wrote: Changing to English as second, then Swedish and Danish (which I can read) as third and fourth, was the first thing I did. I thought I had logged out and back in, but to be sure, I first double checked the language preference panel, and logged out

Setting up a prev. owned iBook Was: Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi Ben, The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. Oooh... :) I just assumed it had to mean that some password had been entered, like it usually

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Ben Dyer
The Password field in the accounts preferences pane *always* displays the same number of dots, regardless of password length or whether there's one there or not. It's an added security measure. You can't really change the account to your name, at least not fully -- short user names cannot be ch

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi David, WOW... Thanks a lot for your input! This is really great, very useful for me... You even mentioned several programs I never even heard of... Now I have something to look into, helps a lot!!! I will take a look at these, and also at the Apple mail reader. Maybe I can use it. I would ha

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Ben Dyer
What's the problem with multiple accounts? I'm using 8 at the moment (5 IMAP, 2 POP, and 1 Exchange) without any issues at all. Cheers, Ben On 18 Jan 2005, at 00:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's Email is a real workhorse with a few caveats: It doesn't play nice with multiple email accounts w

Re: Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/17/05 7:51 AM, "Aase Marit Waage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am still very new to OS X, I have just tried it a bit, but can't > wait to really try out it's stability!!! I see that Tiger has been > mentioned, and some obviously wait buying a new 'Book in order to get > Tiger into

Questions: OS Upgrades, browser/Mail/News choice

2005-01-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi, I am still very new to OS X, I have just tried it a bit, but can't wait to really try out it's stability!!! I see that Tiger has been mentioned, and some obviously wait buying a new 'Book in order to get Tiger into the deal. Do you know what will be the difference to the current OS (Panther