Re: downloading movies

2006-01-31 Thread Peter Saint James
On 22 Jan 2006, at 9:03 PM, Lawrence Sica wrote: You the consumer, making one copy, are not performing a felony. And it's a fine distinction but the act of copying is not illegal in this case. The people selling the program are selling an illegal program possibly though. One major

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-24 Thread Anne Judge
On 23/01/2006, at 8:02 AM, Gerald Abreu wrote: Can I ask how long it takes to rip a dvd to your hard drive? I tried once on an upgraded pismo g4 and the time from hand brake said over 100 hours so I canceled it. On Jan 23, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: I just ripped a 178 minute

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-24 Thread darm0k
At 1:11 PM -0800 01/23/2006, John Roberts wrote: With MacTheRipper or similar programs, can I rip just a scene from a DVD or will it only take the whole thing? Mac The Ripper is a disk volume ripping tool. It is not an MPEG/video editing tool. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:04 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 22/01/06 21:37, Dan K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also use DVDshrink on my PC to make DVD-R copies, again for personal BU of DVDs we own. However I'm not aware of any Mac utility that matches DVDshrink's abilities and convenience.

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Francesco sciacca
I also use DVDshrink on my PC to make DVD-R copies, again for personal BU of DVDs we own. However I'm not aware of any Mac utility that matches DVDshrink's abilities and convenience. Have you tried MacTheRipper with Popcorn? Roxio advertise the latest Toast 7 as being able to 'copy and

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 23, 2006, at 8:43 AM, Francesco sciacca wrote: Have you tried MacTheRipper with Popcorn? Roxio advertise the latest Toast 7 as being able to 'copy and compress' DVDs. I'm not sure to what extent that works, but it'd be great to hear from some actual user (if anyone out there).

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Terry McCune
Forget for a moment that royalties are already built into every blank CD-R and DVD-R out there, this is the post-DMCA era now. Is this true in the USA now? I thought it was only in Canada. -- Terry McCune -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread TmB
I have several movies that were watched frequently by my grandkids and are now ruined by little fingers. I now back up all my kids movies using mac the ripper and popcorn and have not had to buy another copy of a well loved but ruined DVD.I also rip Dvds (I own) onto my laptop's hard drive to

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Gerald Abreu
Can I ask how long it takes to rip a dvd to your hard drive? I tried once on an upgraded pismo g4 and the time from hand brake said over 100 hours so I canceled it. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives |

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/01/06 11:02, Gerald Abreu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I ask how long it takes to rip a dvd to your hard drive? I tried once on an upgraded pismo g4 and the time from hand brake said over 100 hours so I canceled it. I never checked closely but I would say it takes between 20 to 30

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread darm0k
At 8:47 AM -0600 01/23/2006, TmB wrote: I have several movies that were watched frequently by my grandkids and are now ruined by little fingers. I now back up all my kids movies using mac the ripper and popcorn and have not had to buy another copy of a well loved but ruined DVD.I also rip

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Dennis Goglin
Free solutions are nice but that's not where I was headed. As a less experienced user I was seeking guidance in both, how-to and is it okay to do so. Amongst my circle of friends I'm one of the few that owns a computer capable of this or has any real interest in doing so. Of course it's

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread John Roberts
With MacTheRipper or similar programs, can I rip just a scene from a DVD or will it only take the whole thing? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks |

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/01/06 16:11, John Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With MacTheRipper or similar programs, can I rip just a scene from a DVD or will it only take the whole thing? The whole thing. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Gerald Abreu
Brian McEwen wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Jason wrote: I second this, I use toast though, the diff being I had someone buy me the more expensive roxio program, yay birthdays!! I bought Popcorn a while ago, then 4? months later they came out with a Toast update that seems to have a

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 23, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Gerald Abreu wrote: May I ask how you were able to view a ripped dvd from MTR on your computer. I've ripped a dvd that I own to view on a trip but don't know how to get it to play. There is a folder titled nameofmovie and then in a sub folder there are

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Gerald Abreu
Brian, Thanks for the helpful instruction. That's all it took. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-23 Thread Amanda Ward
Hi Gerald, I just ripped a 178 minute movie with MacTheRipper on my BW (w/ G4-450) and it took 39 minutes. Of course YMMV. Amanda On 23/01/2006, at 8:02 AM, Gerald Abreu wrote: Can I ask how long it takes to rip a dvd to your hard drive? I tried once on an upgraded pismo g4 and the time

downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Dennis Goglin
I thought when I purchased my new ibook with the superdrive that I'd be able to download/import movies from a dvd and save them to view whenever I chose. I never really considered the infringement of copyrights or anything as selling something has never been part of the plan. I simply

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Dennis Goglin wrote: I thought when I purchased my new ibook with the superdrive that I'd be able to download/import movies from a dvd and save them to view whenever I chose. I never really considered the infringement of copyrights or anything as selling

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Caleb Cupples
The answer to both questions is yes. You can do it, but if you don't own the disc, it is illegal, technically. However, I don't think they'll go after you for making personal copies. Caleb On Sunday, Jan 22, 2006, at 12:48 America/Chicago, Dennis Goglin wrote: I thought when I purchased my

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Jason
I second this, I use toast though, the diff being I had someone buy me the more expensive roxio program, yay birthdays!! On 22/01/2006, at 10:56, Lawrence Sica wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Dennis Goglin wrote: I thought when I purchased my new ibook with the superdrive that I'd be

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:09 PM, Jason wrote: I second this, I use toast though, the diff being I had someone buy me the more expensive roxio program, yay birthdays!! I bought Popcorn a while ago, then 4? months later they came out with a Toast update that seems to have a lot of the Popcorn

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Allen Brewer
On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Dennis Goglin wrote: So I guess my question is two-fold: 1. Is it possible to save/ copy a movie from a dvd that I have either rented or borrowed? 2. Is doing this illegal? 1. Yes it is possible to save/copy a rented or borrowed dvd (there are some

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Jan 22, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Allen Brewer wrote: snipped some 2. Doing so is illegal. Copying a DVD that you have bought is illegal. I'm sure that lil statement will get the howler monkeys going so lets clarify. You have the right to make a backup of media that you have bought. However

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 22, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Allen Brewer wrote: 2. Doing so is illegal. Copying a DVD that you have bought is illegal. I'm sure that lil statement will get the howler monkeys going so lets clarify. You have the right to make a backup of media that you have bought. However if that disc

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Tom Ethen
Making even one copy for distribution is. On 1/22/06 6:03 PM, Lawrence Sica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why making a copy for personal use is not a felony, making a large number and distributing them in any fashion is. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Brian Scott Oplinger
Lawrence Sica wrote: Actually it is not that simple. The actual legality of copying DVDs was not addressed in the court case, the 321 Studios once. They only ruled about 321 studios program violating the DMCA. Also making a copy of a DVD, encrypted or no *is not a felony*. Actually,

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Caleb Cupples
On Sunday, Jan 22, 2006, at 18:26 America/Chicago, Brian Scott Oplinger wrote: Lawrence Sica wrote: Actually it is not that simple. The actual legality of copying DVDs was not addressed in the court case, the 321 Studios once. They only ruled about 321 studios program violating the DMCA.

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Tom Ethen wrote: Making even one copy for distribution is. On 1/22/06 6:03 PM, Lawrence Sica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is why making a copy for personal use is not a felony, making a large number and distributing them in any fashion is. It's only a

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Jan 22, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Brian Scott Oplinger wrote: Lawrence Sica wrote: Actually it is not that simple. The actual legality of copying DVDs was not addressed in the court case, the 321 Studios once. They only ruled about 321 studios program violating the DMCA. Also making a copy

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Tom Ethen
No matter how you read the law, it is still theft if you copy a commercial DVD for distribution, but then your moral standards may allow that type of behavior. Tom On 1/22/06 6:53 PM, Lawrence Sica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The court did not rule on that part of the DMCA in regards to people

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Jan 22, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Tom Ethen wrote: No matter how you read the law, it is still theft if you copy a commercial DVD for distribution, but then your moral standards may allow that type of behavior. Well I was not talking about morality. I was talking about the law. They are

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Brian McEwen
On Jan 22, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Tom Ethen wrote: No matter how you read the law, it is still theft if you copy a commercial DVD for distribution, but then your moral standards may allow that type of behavior. Copying a movie you purchased (that act itself) is clearly not theft. Violation

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Caleb Cupples
On Sunday, Jan 22, 2006, at 19:43 America/Chicago, Brian McEwen wrote: If someone gets their morals from what is legal, then I'd submit that's a BIG part of what is demonstrably wrong with the processes as they are implemented today. It's legal for a business to declare bankruptcy and

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Dan K
Dennis Goglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: So I guess my question is two-fold: 1. Is it possible to save/copy a movie from a dvd that I have either rented or borrowed? It's very possible, in several different ways. For example, I use HandBrake to rip to .mp4 files DVDs my 6YO daughter owns so she

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread phoenix
Quoth a listmate: Copying a movie you purchased (that act itself) is clearly not theft. Violation of fuzzy, poorly-defined, badly written legislation purchased by corporate interests? Yes, it is that. I think the more pertinent question that hasn't been addressed (if it has, I'm sorry

Re: downloading movies

2006-01-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 22/01/06 21:37, Dan K at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also use DVDshrink on my PC to make DVD-R copies, again for personal BU of DVDs we own. However I'm not aware of any Mac utility that matches DVDshrink's abilities and convenience. Have you tried MacTheRipper with Popcorn? -Laurent. --