Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 9:16 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" Broadcast into the ether: > I expect no less than progress from Apple and while admitting envy for those > who can move up to it I know that for each one of those in todays ecobomy > therre will be many more whose businesses will fall further behind b

Re: browser question

2009-06-09 Thread tortoise
On Jun 8, 10:23 am, Joan Duncan wrote: Do I just throw the other one away once I have > downloaded the new one? You can drag the old one out to the desktop first and then drop the new one in your applications folder, or drag the new one from the disk image icon to the desktop before you replac

Re: browser question

2009-06-09 Thread tortoise
On Jun 8, 10:23 am, Joan Duncan wrote: Do I just throw the other one away once I have > downloaded the new one? > For myself just to be safe I usually try the new one first, move the old one to the trash or out on the desktop while you test. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~--

Re: browser question

2009-06-09 Thread tortoise
On Jun 8, 10:23 am, Joan Duncan wrote: > I use SeaMonkey as my browser and for some reason it has drastically > slowed down. I tried rebuilding the desktop with Disk Warrior 3.o.3 > which had no effect. Forgive me for my lapse but would it help to > download SM again? Do I just throw the other

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
I expect no less than progress from Apple and while admitting envy for those who can move up to it I know that for each one of those in todays ecobomy therre will be many more whose businesses will fall further behind because they believed enough to invest heavily in high end G5s relatively recentl

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > > Previously, at 10:30 pm -0500 6/9/09, George R. Hozendorf wrote: >> >> Tried that. No luck. The actual wordage I get when I key in >> applejack from Single User Mode is, "applejack is not recognized >> as an >> internal or external c

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Trinette Rani Johnson wrote: > I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger > now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple! > It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. > What I can't understand is why people rush off to get the "latest 'n grea

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 10:30 pm -0500 6/9/09, George R. Hozendorf wrote: > > Tried that. No luck. The actual wordage I get when I key in >applejack from Single User Mode is, "applejack is not recognized as an >internal or external command, operable program, or batch file." The >first tim

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread George R. Hozendorf
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Paul Stamsen wrote: > > Previously, at 10:08 pm -0500 6/9/09, George R. Hozendorf wrote: >> My bad. I should have said Single User Mode, not Safe Boot. I get a >> bunch of yellow text on a black screen, but when I key in "applejack" >> it tells me it can't be foun

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 10:08 pm -0500 6/9/09, George R. Hozendorf wrote: >My bad. I should have said Single User Mode, not Safe Boot. I get a >bunch of yellow text on a black screen, but when I key in "applejack" >it tells me it can't be found. Try reinstalling it. I've had that problem and r

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Trinette Rani Johnson wrote: > I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger > now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you > Apple! > It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. It's likely there's no relation between your pro

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Trinette Rani Johnson
I installed it and I can't even get my firewire drive to boot tiger now! I'm using my second drive with a backup beforehand. Damn you Apple! It booted fine before. Now it's hosed. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:39 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > Dan wrote: > >> At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote: >

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread George R. Hozendorf
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:11 PM, insightinmind wrote: > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:57 PM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: > >> >> AppleJack will not run from safe boot or terminal. I've followed the >> instructions to the letter, but since installing 10.5.7 it's non- >> functioning. Any suggestions, other

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Personally I look at contrast ratio. > > The wider the better. > > Acer has a 23" that Tiger Direct sells for less than $200 with > 40,000 to 1 CR. Sony's OLED has 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio. A huge 11" screen with free HDTV rec

Re: SUSE ppc and ethernet

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:09 PM, greens...@care4free.net wrote: > > After trying various distros I now have Open SUSE 11 running on my > G4 450 > Mhz - once I formatted the partition to Unix it all installed > smoothly. > However, on attempting to set up broadband I find that my ethernet > is n

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > On 6/9/09 1:56 PM, "Dan" Broadcast into the > ether: > >> >> hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from >> Snow Leopard? >> >> So no more using AppleTalk printers etc... >> >> - Dan. >> -- > > It's been Ron-Day-Voo an

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Clark Martin
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > > I got as far as "If it still boots onto OF after that, unplug every > device but the > keyboard mouse and monitor, if it STILL boots into OF try a known good > keyboard and mouse". > > Now I have to borrow a known good USB Keyboard. Try

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread aussieshepsrock
... here's the 'gotcha' - as I saw reading cnet and macworld monitor reviews... is the 'contrast ratio' of 40,000 to 1 the 'real' ratio or an 'interpolated' ratio delivered by playing with screen brightnesses during dark images/scenes to achieve the deeper blacks and brighter perceived whites? Thi

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread Dana Collins
On 6/9/09 3:49 PM, pdimage of pdim...@btinternet.com sent > > On 9/6/09 20:27, "aussieshepsrock" wrote: > >> Me thinks I overstated my hopes and expectations! >> >> I'm not seeking a "mission critical" or "pre-press/soft-proof" grade >> Monitor, per se. >> >> I'm thinking more along the l

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 2:50 PM, "Bruce Johnson" Broadcast into the ether: > I'm sorry, I must have missed the line where they said "All PowerPC > systems will drop dead the moment Snow Leopard is released." Hha hah hahah ha ha. Well said sir. > Moreover, any Art Director that maxed out on G5's after

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 1:56 PM, "Dan" Broadcast into the ether: > > hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from Snow Leopard? > > So no more using AppleTalk printers etc... > > - Dan. > -- It's been Ron-Day-Voo and Bonjour for years now. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world en

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 1:52 PM, "Josh Keady" Broadcast into the ether: > They COULD move a few Snow Leopard items to PPC, I'm sure, like > Exchange support and some UI refinements, but then they have to fork > the whole distribution because they can't integrate core technologies > like Grand Central Dispatch

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Eric Volker
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > As an ex-Apple employee and current Apple Certified Technician I > COMPLETELY > agree with the above statement. > > I am a nanny here, and I am well aware that this *is* lowendmac.com, > but you > guys have this thread running well into the fut

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 1:12 PM, "Josh Keady" Broadcast into the ether: > How is this a marketing move? They want that lucrative Power PC- > owning market share? Or new users will say "Phew, thank God they > don't support that crusty old PPC hardware anymore, I'm finally ready > to buy?" It just does not m

Re: SUSE ppc and ethernet

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:09 PM, greens...@care4free.net wrote: > I picked up that > there were issues with SUSE and ethernet for the beige G3 - is this > the case > with SUSE 11/G4's, and is there a fix a nonce can implement? I suspect pretty much any old PCI ethernet card will work, but check

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > I should mention that the computer will not shut down or Start from > the Keyboard or from the front panel "ON" button and when I shut down > from the Finder I have to pull the Power Plug and re-insert to start, > which it does on "Plug In"

Re: Linksys wireless card

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Stro wrote: > Would the version # be part of the FCC ID: PKW-WMP11-V27? I haven't > installed the card, so I don't have any system info on it. This is version 2.7 which is the Broadcom, and may work as-is? Insert card, boot, go to System Preferences>Network and see

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Ernest L. Gunerius
> >On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > >> Then I entered "reset-nvram" and at the "ok" I entered "reset-all". > >Here's one long shot, try: > >set-defaults > >reset-all > >Another long shot would be a bad keyboard perhaps? (or USB problems) Kris; Thank you but set-defaults di

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Ernest L. Gunerius
> >How about CUDA reset, or removing the battery for awhile, and/or opt- >cmd-P-R type of resetting PRAM? > >Bill Connelly >artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio >myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio Thank you Bill, I tried opt-cmd-P-R with no effect I have a CUDA r

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Ernest L. Gunerius
> >Booting into Open Firmware should NEVER be taken as a good sign or >something to be just gotten around. > >Try unplugging the SATA drive and see if it boots normally into the 80 >gig drive. If it still goes to OF, remove the SATA card and see what >happens. > >If it still boots onto OF after

SUSE ppc and ethernet

2009-06-09 Thread greens...@care4free.net
After trying various distros I now have Open SUSE 11 running on my G4 450 Mhz - once I formatted the partition to Unix it all installed smoothly. However, on attempting to set up broadband I find that my ethernet is not set up. It works fine on Tiger, but I would like to use linux on a separate pa

Re: Linksys wireless card

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Stro wrote: > >> I was given a Linksys WMP11 wireless pci card. Does anyone know if >> this card can work in a G4 DA? > > Need the exact version # to know the chipset, some use Prism, some > Broadcom. If you've inst

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread insightinmind
> How about CUDA reset, or removing the battery for awhile, and/or opt- cmd-P-R type of resetting PRAM? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received t

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Does Apple really expect them to now put their asses on the line > again to > recommend buying Mac Pros after curtailing the productive life of > expensive > machinery? Hard enough to expect in good times but in a near > depres

Re: Linksys wireless card

2009-06-09 Thread Stro
Would the version # be part of the FCC ID: PKW-WMP11-V27? I haven't installed the card, so I don't have any system info on it. On Jun 9, 3:47 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Stro wrote: > > > I was given a Linksys WMP11 wireless pci card. Does anyone know if > > this card

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Keady
I don't think that THEY will. "They" would have to pull off a pretty big miracle to make Snow Leopard run on PPC. It's a fundamentally totally different architecture and it's just not gonna happen. Josh On Jun 9, 1:41 pm, Steve R wrote: > At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/09, Josh Keady posted: > > >  The

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > Another long shot would be a bad keyboard perhaps? (or USB problems) > Booting into Open Firmware should NEVER be taken as a good sign or something to be just gotten around. Try unplugging the SATA drive and see if it boots normally into t

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/2009, Josh Keady wrote: > >On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan wrote: > > > OS X is NOT "intel only". It builds nicely for a number of > architectures. > > > >It builds nicely, the core, but it's not as simple as just clicking > >Build and

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
hum. Looks like Apple has ripped out the rest of AppleTalk from Snow Leopard? So no more using AppleTalk printers etc... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Keady
The entire "full OS" still has to be _maintained_, by a team of people, who have to work with the Intel people, writing brand new code for the PPC as the Intel version is updated. In your last message, you said it was a simple matter of building a PPC version. I'm saying, it's not. I'll reitera

Re: Linksys wireless card

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Stro wrote: > I was given a Linksys WMP11 wireless pci card. Does anyone know if > this card can work in a G4 DA? Need the exact version # to know the chipset, some use Prism, some Broadcom. If you've installed the card and can't see the version #, look in System

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Steve R
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/09, Josh Keady posted: > They COULD move a few Snow Leopard items to PPC They will, "they" being the active community of hackers that got OS X to load on Windows, and "they" being the active community of hackers that got Tiger and Leopard to run on earlier Mac architecture

Linksys wireless card

2009-06-09 Thread Stro
Greetings, I was given a Linksys WMP11 wireless pci card. Does anyone know if this card can work in a G4 DA? The Linksys website only gives info on windoze. Thanks, Lee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 1:12 PM -0700 6/9/2009, Josh Keady wrote: >On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan wrote: > > OS X is NOT "intel only". It builds nicely for a number of architectures. > >It builds nicely, the core, but it's not as simple as just clicking >Build and having the OS all ready to go, surely you know that. You

Re: boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: > Then I entered "reset-nvram" and at the "ok" I entered "reset-all". Here's one long shot, try: set-defaults reset-all Another long shot would be a bad keyboard perhaps? (or USB problems) --~--~-~--~~~---~-

boot problem after pwr outage

2009-06-09 Thread Ernest L. Gunerius
computer: Dual 500 GigE, 2 gig ram, 250 Gig SATA, 80 Gig ATA. Had a power outage yesterday for about 2 hours with computer running idle while I was away from the computer. When power came back the computer restarted by itself into Open Firmware. I entered "mac-boot" and the computer booted fro

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Josh Keady
On Jun 9, 7:25 am, Dan wrote: > At 2:43 PM -0400 6/8/2009, Alexander MacLeod wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > > >And how long did you expect them to keep supporting the PPC > >architecture, forever? > > yes.  Or at least until the userbase becomes small.  Righ

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: > > Seeking a reliable web resource or resources to become knowledgeable > in choosing a color critical Monitor for myself. My google searches > looking for websites or webpages were ludicrously scatter shot and > mostly 'forum' posts dating b

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread pdimage
On 9/6/09 20:27, "aussieshepsrock" wrote: > Me thinks I overstated my hopes and expectations! > > I'm not seeking a "mission critical" or "pre-press/soft-proof" grade > Monitor, per se. > > I'm thinking more along the lines of "Beautiful Monitor" to live with > and use for Photography Manageme

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread aussieshepsrock
Me thinks I overstated my hopes and expectations! I'm not seeking a "mission critical" or "pre-press/soft-proof" grade Monitor, per se. I'm thinking more along the lines of "Beautiful Monitor" to live with and use for Photography Management and Editing, that is a terrific Video/dvd/movie wating

Re: DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, PeterH wrote: > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:58 AM, insightinmind wrote: > >> I've very recently adopted (...) a Digital Audio Dual 533, and am >> wondering about its audio out. Can't quite wrap my head (or speaker >> cable) around it. >> >> If I google "Digital Audio" ..

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:57 PM, George R. Hozendorf wrote: > > AppleJack will not run from safe boot or terminal. I've followed the > instructions to the letter, but since installing 10.5.7 it's non- > functioning. Any suggestions, other than reinstalling, which I have > done. > > George > I had

Re: DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread PeterH
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:58 AM, insightinmind wrote: > I've very recently adopted (...) a Digital Audio Dual 533, and am > wondering about its audio out. Can't quite wrap my head (or speaker > cable) around it. > > If I google "Digital Audio" ... well, you see what I mean. > Digital audio outpu

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread billycar_gmailspamcaught
On Jun 9, 1:57 pm, "George R. Hozendorf" wrote: > AppleJack will not run from safe boot or terminal.  I've followed the   > instructions to the letter, but since installing 10.5.7 it's non- > functioning.  Any suggestions, other than reinstalling, which I have   > done. > > George Try Single U

Re: AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 12:57 PM -0500 6/9/2009, George R. Hozendorf wrote: >AppleJack will not run from safe boot or terminal. As expected. AppleJack *requires* Single-User Mode. Boot with cmd-S held down. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread pdimage
On 9/6/09 18:45, "aussieshepsrock" wrote: > > Seeking a reliable web resource or resources to become knowledgeable > in choosing a color critical Monitor for myself. My google searches > looking for websites or webpages were ludicrously scatter shot and > mostly 'forum' posts dating back as muc

AppleJack won't run

2009-06-09 Thread George R. Hozendorf
AppleJack will not run from safe boot or terminal. I've followed the instructions to the letter, but since installing 10.5.7 it's non- functioning. Any suggestions, other than reinstalling, which I have done. George --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this m

Re: DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread insightinmind
On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: > Digital Audio refers to the onboard circuitry, not the type of output. > > The 1/8" jack that has a picture of the headphones is standard sound > out. I run that straight to a pair of powered Altec Lansing desktop > speakers with no problems. > >

Re: Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
aussieshepsrock wrote: > Seeking a reliable web resource or resources to become knowledgeable > in choosing a color critical Monitor for myself. My google searches > looking for websites or webpages were ludicrously scatter shot and > mostly 'forum' posts dating back as much as multiple years and

Where Do I Find Reliable Info On Color Critical Monitor Choices?

2009-06-09 Thread aussieshepsrock
Seeking a reliable web resource or resources to become knowledgeable in choosing a color critical Monitor for myself. My google searches looking for websites or webpages were ludicrously scatter shot and mostly 'forum' posts dating back as much as multiple years and no way to differentiate from th

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Sam Macomber
> > > If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest > G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy > camper. well we're small so complaining won't change a thing with apple.If 10.6 plays nice with 10.5 I think we'll be fine and we'll just

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:43 AM -0700 6/9/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: >On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:27 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest >> G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy >> camper. > >Most corporations operate on a

Re: Permissions?

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:49 AM, norm46 wrote: > OS 10.5.6 up to 10.5.7 and ran Permission repair on disk. Found and > repaired many iTunes and Quicktime problems. I then ran Applejack and > it found and repaired the same permissions. I ran AJ several more > times and it found and repaired the same p

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:27 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > If I were the head of a sizable operation that invested in the latest > G5s I would be letting Apple know loud and clear that I am not a happy > camper. Most corporations operate on a 3-4 year refresh cycle, particularly for things lik

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Dan wrote: > At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote: > >>Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled >>back. But the ones that are left seem immutable > > > hum. Is it just me or is the tabs bar now darker? > > Dark background with small black text... VERY difficult to re

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Sam Macomber
Well, that remains to be seen of course. very reliant on retail, so see how the summer goes. *crosses fingers* -sam > > > Just feel lucky you still have a peak season! > > regards > > Iain Thornton > > --- On Tue, 9/6/09, Sam Macomber wrote: > >> I'm gonna have my hands full this fall >>

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Sam Macomber wrote: > just saw the server version is intel only as well... DOHthree of > our four xserves just got obsoleted, two are G5s that handle the > majority of the work one handles mail and web the other handles file > sharing. the 3rd is an old G4 it has 4 drive bays so that's

Re: DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:58 AM, insightinmind wrote: > I've very recently adopted (...) a Digital Audio Dual 533, and am > wondering about its audio out. Can't quite wrap my head (or speaker > cable) around it. > > If I google "Digital Audio" ... well, you see what I mean. > > Anyone have any su

Re: DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:58 AM, insightinmind wrote: > I've very recently adopted (...) a Digital Audio Dual 533, and am > wondering about its audio out. Can't quite wrap my head (or speaker > cable) around it. > > If I google "Digital Audio" ... well, you see what I mean. > > Anyone have any su

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I have seen ads for pc's that come new running leopard. -Jonas On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:09 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: > > Kyle Hansen wrote: >> On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" >> Broadcast into the ether: >> >>     Heavens no ! >> >> >> I am looking at one right now...uh oh...

DA Adoption

2009-06-09 Thread insightinmind
I've very recently adopted (...) a Digital Audio Dual 533, and am wondering about its audio out. Can't quite wrap my head (or speaker cable) around it. If I google "Digital Audio" ... well, you see what I mean. Anyone have any suggestions? References? I'd like to be able to simply plug my li

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread James E. Therrault
Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > Broadcast into the ether: > > Heavens no ! > > > I am looking at one right now...uh oh...no, no I am not. I have a > “test” computer that I fiddle with that I am looking at > I understand that certain PC(s) can

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 10:51 AM -0500 6/9/2009, Lana wrote: >I hate to stir up a tempest but another way Apple upsets people is >price control and high prices. On a feature by feature basis, Apple's systems are very well priced. But there is still a massive gap in the product line - the Mini is a waste and there's

Re: Random thermal fan revs.

2009-06-09 Thread Stephen E. Bodnar
Brian Durant wrote: > I have started getting random thermal fan revs on my G5 single 1.8 > GHz. The revs last for about fifteen seconds and then go away. > Sometimes once or twice a day. I think this started with the last > security update before 10.5.7, but I am not sure. Anyone know anything > a

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread PeterH
On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:53 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > HMMM, sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar. > No need to waste your money on OSx86 wanna-bes, such as Psystar. Check-out the self-managed group mentioned below for both performance and economy OSx86 solutions

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Iain Thornton
Just feel lucky you still have a peak season! regards Iain Thornton --- On Tue, 9/6/09, Sam Macomber wrote: > I'm gonna have my hands full this fall > (unfortunately 10.6 will come out right at the beginning of > our peak season too)  --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Iain Thornton
I can't answer that quite directly, some I've come into contact do and some don't. However Vista is shit,I'll agree with that directly Iain Thornton --- On Mon, 8/6/09, John Musbach wrote: > Vista is crap... Is it just me or does your vista machine > take forever > to shutdown while appeari

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Lana
I hate to stir up a tempest but another way Apple upsets people is price control and high prices. I am retired. I recently wanted to buy a new computer and very badly wanted a new Apple. I couldn't afford the one I wanted and the one I could,a Mac mini,offered much less in technology and

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Stephen Weber
Yes Isaac that is what I've meant. I've noticed that most businesses use the "Windows Classic" theme. Which is basically the theme from Windows 2000. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Isaac Smith wrote: > > Charles, > > I think when Stephen said "glitter" he was referring to processor- > hogging

Re: Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 9:49 AM -0400 6/9/2009, Dan wrote: >Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled >back. But the ones that are left seem immutable hum. Is it just me or is the tabs bar now darker? Dark background with small black text... VERY difficult to read! :( - Dan. -- - Psychoce

Re: Permissions?

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 6:49 AM -0700 6/9/2009, norm46 wrote: >OS 10.5.6 up to 10.5.7 and ran Permission repair on disk. Found and >repaired many iTunes and Quicktime problems. I then ran Applejack and >it found and repaired the same permissions. I ran AJ several more >times and it found and repaired the same permissi

Permissions?

2009-06-09 Thread norm46
OS 10.5.6 up to 10.5.7 and ran Permission repair on disk. Found and repaired many iTunes and Quicktime problems. I then ran Applejack and it found and repaired the same permissions. I ran AJ several more times and it found and repaired the same permissions time after time. What is going on? How do

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 2:43 PM -0400 6/8/2009, Alexander MacLeod wrote: >On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: > >> Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why >> real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. Exactly. >And how long did you e

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
At 3:19 PM -0400 6/8/2009, John Musbach wrote: >On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Stephen Weber wrote: >> Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you wonder why >> real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does stuff like this. I >> mean look at Microsoft and how the

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Sam Macomber
> > >> Apple does really know how to make people upset, obviously you >> wonder why real businesses don't use Macs. It's because Apple does >> stuff like this. I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep >> supporting older hardware. > > That is not at all true. I work for a couple of LARGE

Safari 4.0

2009-06-09 Thread Dan
As most of you already know, Apple released Safari 4 yesterday. It's available via the normal Software Update gizmo. So far so good on my Macs... Some of the interface foibles of Safari 4 Beta have been rolled back. But the ones that are left seem immutable - the defaults commands that fixed

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Isaac Smith
Charles, I think when Stephen said "glitter" he was referring to processor- hogging visual effects, not the security stuff. Isaac On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Charles Lee wrote: > > Most of that "glitter" is put there to enhance security. If you turn > it off you may as well be running XP. >

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Charles Lee
Most of that "glitter" is put there to enhance security. If you turn it off you may as well be running XP. On Jun 8, 2:31 pm, Stephen Weber wrote: > If you turn off all the glitter (which in a work place environment would > have been done any way) it should run pretty good.  Also I'm pretty sur

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Charles Lee
I think in the comment about Microsoft, he used sarcasm ... > > > I mean look at Microsoft and how they keep supporting older hardware. > > You mean, like Vista and the new formats in Office? Please. > > Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

Re: Random thermal fan revs.

2009-06-09 Thread Steve R
At 12:03 PM +0200 6/9/09, Brian Durant posted: > I have started getting random thermal fan revs on my G5 single 1.8 > GHz. The revs last for about fifteen seconds and then go away. > Sometimes once or twice a day. I think this started with the last > security update before 10.5.7, but I am not

Random thermal fan revs.

2009-06-09 Thread Brian Durant
I have started getting random thermal fan revs on my G5 single 1.8 GHz. The revs last for about fifteen seconds and then go away. Sometimes once or twice a day. I think this started with the last security update before 10.5.7, but I am not sure. Anyone know anything about this? Cheers --~--~

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Po-en Tsai
Also, I might point out the MacBooks are now only polycarbonate white plastic. The Aluminium Macbook is now the MacBook Pro with added Firewire and SD Card slot (all Macbook Pros have that now.) So there is now 13, 15 and 17 inch MBP's! This is probably the best WWDC there has been. Po-en

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 6/9/09 12:01 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" Broadcast into the ether: > Heavens no ! I am looking at one right now...uh oh...no, no I am not. I have a ³test² computer that I fiddle with that I am looking at Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter

Re: It is official, we are orphans.

2009-06-09 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 6/8/09 10:53 PM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" > Broadcast into the ether: > > HMMM, sounds like a case for agent x86 and his friend Psystar. > > > You can build a hackintosh for about $300 if you google around...I am not > at all condoning