[Audyssey] Chess by e-mail.

2007-12-22 Thread Christopher Bartlett
I would be interested in anyone's experiences with either chess servers on line or web sites that host/match e-mail chess players. Does anyone here use either of these types of chess playing options? Chris Bartlett --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave

Re: [Audyssey] contacting hasbro and possible bop it workaround was Re:support needed

2007-12-22 Thread ian and riggs
hi yohandi that was my idear it is just a case of getting the balance it is just that when you get to the later levels it is all mixed so how is that going to work i am working on doing that my self at the momant - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion

Re: [Audyssey] bopit extreme 2

2007-12-22 Thread william lomas
but it doesn't lol it does the command if youd on't have to hit, yes, but by the time you've decided if you ahve to hit the command or not you may loose so what's the point On 22 Dec 2007, at 05:29, Yohandy wrote: obviously if it work how I think it does you don't guess, you simply

[Audyssey] thoughts on games

2007-12-22 Thread john snowling
Hi all. After reading some of the posts I totally agree that all visually impaired people whether totally blind etc should pay for games. I myself can't work due to illness but I'd never go the route of not paying for a game because I couldn't afford it. Bad enough it's simple wait until you

Re: [Audyssey] Other ideas for Monopoly

2007-12-22 Thread dark
Hi Jim. H, maybe as Tom said, Creddits should be used for the Trek currency, which would also be good as it covers starwars, and a couple of possible other Scifi settings as well. but if your going with the basic editable text file idea, then players can use yak droppings if they want

Re: [Audyssey] Other ideas for Monopoly

2007-12-22 Thread dark
well novice computer users are reportedly bad, but I do remember a time when beyond basic word processing, anything else looked scary. I very distinctly remember the first out of work thing I did with my computer, also the first time I accessed files from outside my documents or a floppy drive.

Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on games

2007-12-22 Thread dark
as far as pure prices go, I actually think accessible games do very well. usually assistive tech and other specialist vi products are priced through the roof, - Seven quid for braille paper, as opposed to about 50 P for standard paper (and you get a lot more sheets as well). If I'd have

Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on games

2007-12-22 Thread william lomas
hi i think the problem is though up to now we have too basic games, shoot this and shoot that, whereas games like tombraider are going to be more inline with what is available. Will On 22 Dec 2007, at 11:13, dark wrote: as far as pure prices go, I actually think accessible games do very

Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on games

2007-12-22 Thread Darren Harris
Lol some people want to get games for free they think they should be given it? Jees role over guys. There's plenty of sites out there for that sort of thing should you want cracked games. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john snowling

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Stefen Hudson
I kind of like that Internet License Manager thing Freedom Scientific uses. It seemds more secure than the authorization keys on the floppy disks. I know that if you can make an exact copy of the disk, you can get an authorization on any computer. FS products are probably still crackable, but

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Stefen Hudson
That's kind of silly, Vader shooting lightning. All he did as Vader in the movies was Force choke people, and all that telekinetic stuff. I think I read somewhere that he couldn't use Force lightning because of his cybernetics. -- From: Bryan

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Brandon Armstrong
yeah veader could not shoot lightning but the emperer could. Brandon - Original Message - From: Stefen Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion That's kind of

Re: [Audyssey] thoughts on games

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
Not only that, but accessible games are, to be quite honest, just about the cheapest things out there for us blindies compared to, say, JAWS, Window-Eyes or just about any other VI product. Compared to the price tags on most assistive technology, the price of accessible games is just pocket

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
But what of those who don't have an internet connection? That leaves those people in the dust unless you make it possible to activate the product without having innernet access. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Stefen Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
Yeah, but you know video games. They have to add things to make it more fun. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Stefen Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Daniel, I didn't say they talked about it on mailing lists, per say, it is just a well known fact that these cracked games get passed around by word of mouth and through private channels. Not to mention the information isn't that hard to come by if you know the right listers to ask. The

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, yes, that is the three original books that Mara Jade appeared in. Speaking of Heir To The Empire Hasbro toys has released a 15 year anniversary set this Christmas from Heir To The Empire. You get a comic book of Heir To The Empire, one special edition Mara Jade action figure, and a Luke

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Thanks for the heads up. I will see if I can locate it. I'm growing very disappointed with the Legacy series of books anyway, and the all time low point was when Mara confronts Jacen as a traiter and he kills her. That royally royally sucked. Although, I have heard from some blogs and such

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Robin Kipp
Hi Bryan, Like I said, could you imagine the headlines? It's one thing to sue a rapper for using Pacman sounds in one of his songs since he's likely to have the money, but suing a blind game developer who is just one person is far more likely to attract unfavorable attention than

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread GMail
The thing is, you can't sue everybody because too many people are doing it. That's why the pirates exist is because they know that it's a good chance they won't get caught. - Original Message - From: Robin Kipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent:

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with playing super liam

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Claudio, Not being the developer of that particular game I unfortunately won't be able to solve your problem. About all I can do is tell you what the error means. Which is simply that one or more of the games objects can't be loaded for some reason. Claudio wrote: Hello Thomas! I can't

[Audyssey] tablet fragments in shryth?

2007-12-22 Thread simon.dowling
as the subject says, has anyone any ideas what to do with these fragments? i got three at the moment, and i got a piece of doom wall as well. http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/003 Simon creator and owner of the winmx4theblind mailing list. to find out more visit

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Claudio, Quote Well, I hate to say it, but I think the Dog fight part should be 3D as well, as this would bring realisim into the game. Having to go from 3D to 2D isn't something that is all that fun. End quote Well, it could certainly be done, but honestly you have no idea how difficult a

Re: [Audyssey] Problem with playing super liam

2007-12-22 Thread Claudio
Hello Thomas! Thanks for your ansver. I'm now wayting for an ansver from liam. I think he reat all these e-mails on the list. Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Yeah, I know all about how fical and tempermental computers can be. Earlier this week my copy of Vista died on my laptop and I was forced to spend three entire days recovering all my stuff, reinstalling Vista, apps, and getting my development tools reconfigured. In fact, I still

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Robin, Yes, Star Trek and Star Wars have rather strict copyrights attached to them. Lucas Film Limited has an extremely strict copyright polacy regarding the use of Star Wars and its characters. However, that mainly applies to products being sold using the copyrighted material. Which I am

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Not only that I am going to be releasing Star Wars as fan fiction. I've even thought about making it open source which puts the game in the public domain. What money is there to sue for? I mad nothing off of it, and in the public domain that means all blinks would own the game. Laugh.

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi David, The primary disadvantage for Lucas Film, Lucas Arts, etc is that USA Games is so small it would cost them more to sue me than they could ever hope to get back in a law suit. At most they would probably send me a nasty legal sease and desist letter with a court order to take all

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Robin and all, It might surprise some of you that most accessible games out there violates one copyright or another. For example, some of Jim Kitchens games like Life, Monopoly, etc are copyrighted and owned by Hazbro Toys but they have never complained to Jim about using their copyrights.

[Audyssey] Free Accessible checkers game

2007-12-22 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hello; Listers, I have a question. Where can I download a free accessible checkers game? Please write back. This is the email address of Jose Lomeli. This email does not contain any virus or spy-ware. This email may not be redistribute or reproduced without the written consent of Jose Lomeli.

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Cory
Che you have such a way with words! love it! Cory - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop Valid arguments, but I

[Audyssey] Phill's Games site

2007-12-22 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hello; Listers, I have a question. Does anyone know the website to Phill's games? Please write back. From Jose Lomeli. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send

Re: [Audyssey] Phill's Games site

2007-12-22 Thread Charles Rivard
www.pcsgames.net --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: Jose Lomeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Phill's Games site Hello; Listers, I have a question. Does anyone

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread chou.clement
Fine with me. I look forward to that, honestly. I haven't really followed a lot of star wars, but I like it. The litle bit I know, anyway. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:55 AM

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread william lomas
hi why are you guys all paranoid no one,w ill find out for god sake, the mainstream companies don't care about us anyway On 22 Dec 2007, at 16:24, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi, Not only that I am going to be releasing Star Wars as fan fiction. I've even thought about making it open source which

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Kuvvosh
Well, how about this. You are in the cockpit, and you have stages, the first round is one fighter, then the second round is two of them, but one of them is stupid lol. Have in there where it is programmed where only one fighter can attack at any given time. I'm sure there is a trigger that can

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Robin Kipp
Hello all, OK, I was just interested in this whole copyright thing. So thanks for all the good info! Robin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] contacting hasbro and possible bop it workaround wasRe:support needed

2007-12-22 Thread Yohandy
This shouldn't matter as long as you pay close attention. You said you're working on it, so does this mean you have the bop it download? If so could you post a sample? I've only listened to the game on gazoo and the playbopit demo, which are extremely short. thanks! - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] Final Feedback on rules of Monopoly

2007-12-22 Thread Gary Whittington
Yeah, I got to say that would be a lot of work foray free game and many would agree. The items I did put on the wish list were just add ons and doable. The added feedback of Charles of number of houses and hotels and when going out should be part of the total package. Do save them as mine for

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Stefen, Quote One thing I wonder about though is how the sounds are going to be obtained End quote Let's just say I have around a gig of Star Wars sound and music effects. Doing this game isn't going to be a problem. How I obtained them though is my secret. All I will say I got them without

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Unfortunately, that is the downside of internet based product activation. Though, it is becoming allot more common commercially. I know Vista, Sound Forge, Omnipage, Jaws, etdc use online activation now, and it is becoming impossible to own and use a computer without online access

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
You're forgetting that we're talking about blind people here. And when we say lose face, it meanns that their reputations would be tarnished, which they would probably be for taking a blind person to ourt. That, I think, is the key point. Sure sighted people went to jail for downloading music,

Re: [Audyssey] tablet fragments in shryth?

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
So far there's no use for either the tablet fragments or the piece of Doomwall, but I see discovering a use for the former happening far sooner than the latter. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: simon.dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: audysy

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
I never even thought of that approach, and I write fanfiction from time to time. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 9:19 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
I tried to explain that to my mom once when I told her about Phil's Pacman games. She figures the developer of Pacman's a nice guy and gave his permission, yet just a few years before they sued I think Puff Daddy or someone for using Pacman sounds in one of his songs. I think it more likely

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
I wouldn't say that they don't care about us. More that they don't cinsoder the fact that blind people enjoy gaming as well. I'm sure that as individuals they would probably be fasinated by the idea, but as big, faceless corporations it all comes down to money. Time is an illusion, lunchtime

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, That is interesting though it is definitly not Star Wars cannon. Darth Vader never possessed the power to use force lightning, and Mara never completed that level of Sith training to have force lightning either. At least not the real Mara. In Mysteries of the Sith though Mara Jade discovers

Re: [Audyssey] chess game

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No, you have to pay for Chess Elite, but it works with Jaws and Window Eyes and is better than Winboard by a mile. josh wrote: is chess elite free or do we have to pay for it? It would be cool if there a version of chess elite that was self voiceing and used sapi5. --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] chess game

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Chess Elite is a game for the sighted market, but they have a checkbox that was added to the game to make it accessible for screen readers. Unlike many sighted game makers they were all to happy to add accessibility to the game for us. josh wrote: was, or is, chess elite designed for

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Well, there were other ways to crack Jaws besides replicating the authorisation disks, and one method is still open to a cracker if he or she knows assembly. A couple of years ago there was a cracked demo of Jaws floating around. The cracker disassembled the Jaws demo, turned off the

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Quote I think I read somewhere that he couldn't use Force lightning because of his cybernetics. End quote That is correct. In the new Star Wars legacy series there is a discussion between Lumiya, Vader's former apprentice, and Jacen Solo about Darth Vader. Lumiya explains that a

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Sure. They do it all the time. Though, the fact remains that is completely a contridiction of the books and movies. Personally, I am in agreement with Lumiya's assessment given in the Legacy series that Vader lost allot of force powers after having so many cybernetic components added. Force

Re: [Audyssey] Other ideas for Monopoly

2007-12-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yeah, credits is the exact name for the currency in the Star Trek Monopoly game. I have the Star Trek Next Generation Monopoly game and the manual calls the bills Federation Credits. Making it just credits for the Kitchens Inc version would be fine. Both Star Wars Monopoly boards use

Re: [Audyssey] tablet fragments in shryth?

2007-12-22 Thread simon.dowling
hi Brian, ok thanks for that, finally i have the forgotten tome of law, but is there any where to go to restore the pages? many thanks. http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/003 Simon creator and owner of the winmx4theblind mailing list. to find out more visit

Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars Game Discussion

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
That was pretty much how he died, too. He had to place his own body between Luke and Palpatine in order to throw the Emperor into the Death Star's reactor core. Since Palpatine was still firing off bursts of force lightning at the moment when Vader attacked him, Vader probably got quite a bit

[Audyssey] Getting sighted developers' to care

2007-12-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hiya, The recent talk about copyright and sighted gamers not caring has got me interested. I am tempted to agree with Brian: as individuals a lot of these people care, as I can testify. I've had a lot of people curious about the sorts of games I can play, even had some go out of their way

Re: [Audyssey] Other ideas for Monopoly

2007-12-22 Thread dark
thought so tom, sinse even though I've seen gold pressed latinum being used in the series, it's not used often as I remember, in fact I'd be vaguely interested to know where federation creddits comes from. Creddits would also cover Babylon 5 (which would make a great monopoly board), as

Re: [Audyssey] tablet fragments in shryth?

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
I assume you mean Lore? There is one page you can get right now. Just stop in at a certain trading post outside Trithik. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: simon.dowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Valiant (on laptop)
rofl, hmm houdy tyler, er, long time no see? Oh, hey everyone else too while we're on the subject, I just joined. *waves marrily at everyone and shouts 'Marry christmas!'* - Original Message - From: Tyler Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent:

Re: [Audyssey] top speed 2 cars and tracks

2007-12-22 Thread Tyler Wood
Well, I can always put the top speed cars up on my ftp site- I have most of them and then some, I think. If you want me to, let me know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your

[Audyssey] top speed 2 cars and tracks

2007-12-22 Thread cory
Hi guys, I know there use to be a bunch of top speed cars and tracks on the playing in the dark website, but they're gone ever since the site got hacked. I was wondering if anyone knew of a good place besides xsite with more cars and tracks. Maybe an open ftp or something. Thanks for your

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread Bryan
Yeah. You should've heard how the NeoSpeech voices pronounced it. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Valiant (on laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey]

[Audyssey] realtime voice changeing software for games

2007-12-22 Thread josh
Hi, I found that morphvox classic is pretty accessible for those of you who play online role-playing games over skype . but if any of you can suggest other good, free, realtime voice changeing software for online rpg chat games that would be great. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __

[Audyssey] AirSearch

2007-12-22 Thread Robin Kipp
Hi all, I don't remember where, but somewhere I heard about a game named AirSearch. Does anyone know this game and whether it's good or not? Thanks! Robin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material

2007-12-22 Thread shaun everiss
that actually brings up a semi scary thought. Using this line of thought, its ok to crack the games because they are violating copywrites anyway. Its weird but it makes me think of a cd which can be a coppy of a coppy, etc etc etc. At 05:54 a.m. 23/12/2007, you wrote: Hi Robin and all, It might

Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop

2007-12-22 Thread shaun everiss
yeah thats true enough. My dad's system has been faithfull for a bit, and this week it started to show its age. Its a mishmash of bits and bobs and xp was part of it all. And well I think it may be about to croak, oh well, its the oldest system in the house, the last to be upgraded, so it makes