Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Dark, Just found that Microsoft Mary, Mike and Sam all say "you may playt eh markit if you own stock, but you dnt!" I have to say that it is probably all my fault. Left out the apostrophe in don't. I never caught that because I always buy stock. Sure do miss out on allot of cas

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Dark, Yeah, I have never been able to find sapi5 voice dictionary's. Really haven't found anything but rate and volume. Sure would be cool if they had some of the stuff that you can do with the DecTalk32 software version. But truthfully I am just so happy that my computer can talk with a

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Well i usually do buy stock if I can, but sometimes, as happened with my friends, i just didn't land on the right square for that. We've actually had far more fun out of the phrase "but you daaant!" than we could possibly have got if you'd added the apostropphy Jim, so never min

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Hi Jim. Well, i was never around in the really! early days, but remembering the appolo external speech box with orphius I had with Hal v3, I sometimes feel I have no right to complain these days about synths! And don't get me started on the way talking calculators or thermometres used t

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim, Yeah, AT&T Charles is a pretty good voice. I also like Lorn, but haven't gotten around to purchasing that voice yet. Perhaps when I get Lorn I might begin using her in games as I think it might end some of the controversy over Karen. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, I know one gentlem

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, now that I know your secret my evil master mind can foil your secret weapon. In my new game I'll put some necessary commands on control+0 and control+8 so you can't use those hot keys any more. Hahahahahahaha! dark wrote: again though Charles, in hal, there's no need to actually

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, As I said with Window Eyes 7.11 I don't have to unload the screen reader to play game x. I just tend to do so for personal reasons. I guess the techie side of me. Although, I am glad to know I don't need to unload Window Eyes when playing as that does free me up to chat on an instent

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Dam you tom! Well one evil scheme deserves another. How about I redirect all the links to your games on audiogames.net to point to an ultra virus of doom! Then, everyone will complain that you wiped their harddrives, --- and you'll be sued, sent into exile, and probably mutate into someth

Re: [Audyssey] fps/tps question

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi dark, Yeah, when it comes to accessible games the distinction between first person and third person breaks down because those labels refer to a completely visual concept that isn't there in our games. Games like Shades of Doom, Monkey Business, Sarah, you name it are probably technically fir

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
It's not just in games Tom that I find this useful. in winamp or power dvd I can flick Hal's voice on to deal with config, or selecting a new folder to listen to, then flick it off again and just use keyboard commands as normal, without Hal saying "X" whenever I start Winamp playing etc.

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Bryan Peterson
I particularly liked how during your BG Hearts podcast it said that your game had been "ray zumed." Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Mon

Re: [Audyssey] fps/tps question

2009-11-30 Thread dark
I've always felt tom that audio side scrollers were third person, sinse you here not what is literally around the character's position, but what is ahead of and behind them, something which they themselves couldn't here, or at least, wouldn't here in the same position as the player here's

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Yep, he's a mean old man, that ray zumed! His french son, --- onry zumed isn't particularly nice either! Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Peterson" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] About Th

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread peter Mahach
lol lol lol. and let's not forget the speak and spell... thomas, yes, lawren is fairly decent. to be honest I'm ok with any voice from any company, but caren doesn't just sound like the voice I'd want to hear all day lol - Original Message - From: "Jim Kitchen" To: "dark" Sent: Monda

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark and Jim, Been there done that as they say. I've played several text games and it drives me nuts when you get a character like Dr. Watson and it says Drive Watson instead of Doctor Watson. You might be playing some roll playing game or mud set in medieval times and it says street instea

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I wouldn't go as far to say that institutions here do anything with accessible games. I merely was recounting a case where a couple of people i spoke to knew of Termite Torpedo as they had seen it in the Printing House catalogs for software, and assumed, I guess, that I had gott

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Hmmm...Perhaps I won't block your favorite control+0 and control+8 keys after all. I'll just put a virus in my next game download that works as a seek and destroy bot which will disable Hal forever and install Window-Eyes on your system. The demo of course. Can't give you the commerci

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread dark
I probably don't need to say it, but Hal has a dictionary too (surprised eh?). the only problem is as Jim's said, where is sapi's dictionary! this gets on my wick extremely when I'm playing a mud, and is often the reason I prefer to actually use non-self-voicing If interpreters with

[Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Hello Tom. This is unfortunately true. For the last few years I've gone to sight village each summer. This is basically the uk Vi tech show, where companies, charities and organizations wrent stalls and show off their stuff, while lots of people turn up and look. Not once though have I seen

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Darren Harris
Hi, This is a brilliant idea. The problem is that there's no real form of advertising for these games and some of them are absolutely fantastic and a ton of work goes into these games. If audiogames.net did go and represent the gaming community then that would be a helpful boost I'm sure. -O

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
well tom, that is a serious threat indeed! I think in that case I'll register with the patant office the names tomb hunter, angela carter and mysteries of the ancients. Thenk, either you'll have to pay me lots of money to release your games, or, I'll sue you when they're released, --- an

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Thanks darren. I think audiogames.net in this case would mean me, and Cx2, the other English mod, if he wished, and was able to come. I will investigate the possibility though. For a start, I don't know if there is a charge, and if there is, whether the game accessibility group wou

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Darren Harris
Yeah there's a charge. And maybe if this is advertising for accessible games which will put money in the developers pockets then why can't they "collectively" put up some money for you? I mean after all it's not going to benefit audiogames.net to do this. Not financially so there either has to be a

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Jacob Kruger
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Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Well, I've checked the site village information. It turns out there's actually an exhibition in edinboughr in march, which is literally only an hour on the train from where I am (though Bermingham isn't impossible sinse my parents live in Nottingham). I've sent as polite an E-mail as I can to

[Audyssey] Quest engine etc. for interactive fiction type games

2009-11-30 Thread Jacob Kruger
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Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Allan Thompson
That sounds like a good idea. I hope it is affordable to do, otherwise I am sure some of us would not mind giving a few bucks to do that. Just some thoughts, al - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey]

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Dark, I am surprised you did not think of my Sarah game. You could say it was inspired by the Harry Potter books and games. True the voices are mainly Americans doing British accents, but then when I asked for volunteers to do British voices only Americans got back to me. Maybe you Brits don'

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Scott Chesworth
Hey Dark, Didn't Agrip do a trip to Sight Village once? I didn't go that year, just vaguely remember them being at some exhibition somewhere and it seemed to ring a bell. Anyway main reason for the post was just to add a bit of support to the idea. As far as I know the cost varies depending on

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Yes phil! we don't want any ill mannered yankies in our propper English magic school thank you very much! ;D. being serious now, my one slight issue with sarah as a quick exhibition game is how easy it is to pick up and play without reading the manual or looking at any commands. If I can just

Re: [Audyssey] Quest engine etc. for interactive fiction type games

2009-11-30 Thread Allan Thompson
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Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Hi Scot. Well I'm not sure, everything's stil in the possibly crazy idea stage at the moment, and I haven't even spoken to Cx2, or richard or Sander, sinse I'd like to know the facts from the organizers themselves first. Once I know what's going on, having an extra person on hand ma

Re: [Audyssey] Quest engine etc. for interactive fiction type games

2009-11-30 Thread Scott Chesworth
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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread peter Mahach
well let's just say you could call me a screen reader expert or close to that. I worked with nearly everything available on windows and had a few experiences with orca on the gnome desktop. when I started out I was running wineyes 4.5 and needless to say the control panel was very! confusing,

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Dark, I thought a British based game would be of some interest in the UK. For easy demonstrations of the Sarah game, you could, 1, go through the sounds in the game list. 2. go through the spells list and cast one, such as Accio that will get you a broom at the front door. 3. Apparate to the

Re: [Audyssey] About Thomas' Review...

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
I always buy stock even if I can't. especially if I have unlucky roles early on in the game. At 02:54 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >Well i usually do buy stock if I can, but sometimes, as happened >with my friends, i just didn't land on the right square for that. > >We've actually had far

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
well thats why I like to use hal over jaws, one thing I like is you can turn hotkeys and voice off with a couple keystrokes then go through and process say a game or something yet the speech is there on demand. At 04:59 a.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >It's not just in games Tom that I find this usefu

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
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Re: [Audyssey] Quest engine etc. for interactive fiction type games

2009-11-30 Thread Jacob Kruger
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Re: [Audyssey] Quest engine etc. for interactive fiction type games

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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

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[Audyssey] News from PCS Games

2009-11-30 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Folks, I was sure my update to the Sarah game would be finished by now. But my wife getting a new Guide dog from the Seeing Eye has slowed down my game development work. It's probably like having a three year old visit, strange feeding schedules, sibling interactions to police, and sleeping a

Re: [Audyssey] News from PCS Games

2009-11-30 Thread Willem
Hi Phil. That's really great to hear! I look forward to playing. Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Folks, I was sure my update to the Sarah game would be finished by now. But my wife getting a new Guide dog from the Seeing Eye has slowed down my game development work. It's probably like having a three year

[Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread william lomas
HI, I noted at the start of the year we received this update, frm draconis: A new year has begun for Draconis Entertainment, and we’ve got tons of exciting projects in the works. We will be releasing several new titles, updating existing titles, and developing our next generation gaming

Re: [Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread Mauricio Almeida
you need to understand that things do not go as we want sometimes. thats probably their case. but indeed, dont promise what you cant fullfill -Mensagem original- De: william lomas Para: Gamers Discussion list Data: Segunda, 30 de Novembro de 2009 22:20 Assunto: [Audyssey] draconis update?

Re: [Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread James Dietz
I'd be very interested to hear about Draconis' progress. They were working on a new registration system over the summer. It was completed (I haven't witnessed it) and since then I've heard nothing. Last twitter says "great things are afoot" from mid-august. On 11/30/09, Mauricio Almeida wrote: >

Re: [Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread william lomas
not complaining just commenting on this was supposedly a good fruitful year yet nothing On 30 Nov 2009, at 22:29, James Dietz wrote: I'd be very interested to hear about Draconis' progress. They were working on a new registration system over the summer. It was completed (I haven't witnessed i

Re: [Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread Mauricio Almeida
i know will. i didnt intend to be rude either. -Mensagem original- De: James Dietz Para: Gamers Discussion list Data: Segunda, 30 de Novembro de 2009 17:29 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] draconis update? I'd be very interested to hear about Draconis' progress. They were working on a new registr

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread James Dietz
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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Mauricio Almeida
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Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
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[Audyssey] quest and ff game books

2009-11-30 Thread Allan Thompson
Hi all, I was wondering if translating the fighting fantasy gamebooks and similar products to be used in the quest text adventure creater would be legal or not. I think it could be possible, although I have to sit down and mess with the thing for a while to get a better idea. al "The tru

Re: [Audyssey] quest and ff game books

2009-11-30 Thread Mauricio Almeida
i suppose so, if you dont say you created them -Mensagem original- De: "Allan Thompson" Para: "gamers discussion list" Data: Segunda, 30 de Novembro de 2009 18:14 Assunto: [Audyssey] quest and ff game books Hi all, I was wondering if translating the fighting fantasy gamebooks and simila

Re: [Audyssey] Promotion was:Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Hi Phil. Nice suggestions, mucking about with spells or being got by peeves hadn't actually occurred to me as things I could show in a demo. As for the nationality business, well we get so many american films books and just about everything else over here, nobody would particularly

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
I actually prefer both the way hal Handles virtual focus and screen recognition and interaction myself, I actually found the jaws multiple modes system rather confusing. In Hal for example, it's so natural for me to be in virtual focus for web pages, I'm quite familiar with all it's short

Re: [Audyssey] News from PCS Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Fantastic update news phil, though I do wonder how to brue felix felicis as if i remember rightly it took quite a long time. it's also nice to know Harry's signiature spell has made it into the game. I'm of course talking about expelliarmus! My brother made the rather amusing comment that

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I like the way jaws handles the web, just like a standard page, also how it handles advanced word and excell functions. However I don't care about how it handles winamp or eudora and some other apps. At 01:44 p.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >I actually prefer both the way hal Handles virtual focus

Re: [Audyssey] quest and ff game books

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Hello Al. It depends upon what you mean by fighting fantasy gamebooks. If you mean the original fighting fantasy series published in the 1980's, and now being republished, the answer is a resounding no, sinse text is copywrite, they are apparently publishing eletronic versions for I

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread dark
Fair enough sean. I admit, I found the jaws method of totally restructuring web pages not to be to my taste at all, especially for online games which feature links in specific places at the top or bottom to be helpful to the player. I'll also say, it makes things easier when i've got my

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Charles Rivard
I'll keep this message for blackmailing purposes. It'll prove that Thomas Ward did not do it. It will show who did it. Now, I'm sure we can come up with a suitable arrangement of payment for my silence? Mwah, ah, ah, ah, ah! --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "dark" To

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Charles Rivard
Send him a special edition of a game as a Hal oh een? gift. There goes his screen reader. --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games Hi Dark, Hmmm.

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread Charles Rivard
Hmm. This is getting fun! --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games well tom, that is a serious threat indeed! I think in that case I'll register with th

Re: [Audyssey] draconis update?

2009-11-30 Thread Charles Rivard
When directly bringing this issue to Draconis Entertainment, what was the response? --- In God we trust! - Original Message - From: "william lomas" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: [Audyssey] draconis update? HI, I noted at the start of th

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games

2009-11-30 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm I may have an older version but hal does not always show me everything and it chooses to crash loads more than jaws. hal has its uses though. I suppose I navigate via headdings loads these days. At 02:29 p.m. 1/12/2009, you wrote: >Fair enough sean. > >I admit, I found the jaws method of tota