Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled!

2011-11-26 Thread Mich
and works as a phisieo therapist. the intro to this book is written by David blunket. from Mich. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Unfortunately Jeremy

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2011-11-26 Thread dark
sounds interesting for it's own sake too. beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hi Dark. I can tell you that hear in Canada

[Audyssey] I'm appauled!

2011-11-25 Thread dark
I must admit I've been very slow about writing entries for the Azabat games for audiogames.net, basically because most of the games are pretty much available in better versions elsewhere and azabat are ridiculously overpriced, in fact as I've said before I think the only reason they've got

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2011-11-25 Thread Darren Harris
. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 25 November 2011 10:43 To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! I must admit I've been very slow about writing entries for the Azabat games for audiogames.net

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Hi Darren. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by give them a bad wrating sinse audiogames.net doesn't have a general wratings sytem, though that's a good idea in itself. You can list games as favourites but that's it. i can't however say bad things about them on the games entry page

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2011-11-25 Thread Darren Harris
worth it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 25 November 2011 13:14 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hi Darren. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by give them a bad wrating

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2011-11-25 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dark, is there any way to prevent rnib from doing that? I just wonder if they are somehow paying off the right people to hold that monopoly. Hi Darren. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by give them a bad wrating sinse audiogames.net doesn't have a general wratings sytem, though

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2011-11-25 Thread john
10:42:48 - Subject: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! I must admit I've been very slow about writing entries for the Azabat games for audiogames.net, basically because most of the games are pretty much available in better versions elsewhere and azabat are ridiculously overpriced, in fact as I've

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2011-11-25 Thread john
Were you to email them, just don't mention the site. For all they know, your a representing only yourself. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:14:23 - Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hi

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Well Darren the only Vi organizations I really have time for over here are action for blind people and guide dogs, - though as I've just got my first dog I would say that :D. As to what you are charlese recommend, remember that the descriptions on audiogames.net aren't reviews. I could

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Unfortunately Jeremy getting the rnib to do anything is near impossible sinse they are a law unto themselves. heck I've tried to get them to record sf and fantasy books for the last 22 years and mostly completely failed! I suspect the reasons that they are behind azabat are either because A,

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Hi John. i am in fact trying to be honest about their games, without being negative. So in the word games entry I point out the lack of interaction, and mention that there are no difficulties in their battle ship game, but it's stil difficult. saying you can't interupt the speech is a

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Well John, that's a possibility, however I've already contacted them so they'll know who I am, and even if I mailed them anonymously, they'll probably just put me down to a random nutter and continue what they're doing anyway, where as if I introduced myself as audiogames.net admin, I can

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2011-11-25 Thread Steve Crawford
To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! I must admit I've been very slow about writing entries for the Azabat games for audiogames.net, basically because most of the games are pretty much available in better versions elsewhere and azabat are ridiculously overpriced, in fact

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Hello steve. i freely admit my initial post may have been somewhat over frustrated, however please allow me to explain. I actually have! approached the rnib in connection with not just selling other people's games, but promoting audio computer games in general. Their response well most

Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled!

2011-11-25 Thread Bryan Peterson
! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Well Darren the only Vi organizations I really have time for over here are action for blind people and guide dogs

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
That was the sort of thing I was thinking, rather like the gamefaqs reviews system, so that the description would be none biased but people would know that if they hit rviews they got others opinions. hopefully Sander and Richard will add it at some point in the future. Beware the grue!

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2011-11-25 Thread Steve Crawford
: 25 November 2011 15:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hello steve. i freely admit my initial post may have been somewhat over frustrated, however please allow me to explain. I actually have! approached the rnib in connection with not just selling other people's

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
hi Steve. my issue as far as the Rnib goes is that they refuse to recognize that other products, including frree programs exist. As I said I was contacting them as representative of audiogames.net and more to show that audio based computer games do exist and are playable for blind

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2011-11-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, for starts I honestly can't blame you. The reasons you mentioned is precisely why I don't own any of the Azabat games. I can get most of the same games from Jim Kitchen, Spoonbill, etc for free so there is no insentive for me to buy and play something I personally would find less

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2011-11-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, That definitely would help here. As you say what we need is some non-biased opinions in a case like this, and although I am sure I can give one it still wouldn't be too favorable to the games. First of all, I don't own any of the Azabat games myself so my opinions would be largely based

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Hi Tom. As I said, I like the idea of a reviews section for each page, thus allowing people to see what other gamers think of games, - I'd indeed write some reviews myself, however the entries I wish to keep as none biased as possible, sinse their main purpose is information not opinion.

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
sinse this has come up as such a major reminder I'll bring the issue to Sanders' attention, sinse maybe he can cobble up some sort of temporary fix, such as having a reviews room on audiogames.net with pages for each entry for people to submit review topics. it would certainly help with

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2011-11-25 Thread QuentinC
Hello, Why not make audiogames.net upgrade a little and let the users rate and comment each game, directly on their respective pages ? I think this is kind of standard feature present on allmost regular gaming community website. I know that you can't directly change something in that area,

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2011-11-25 Thread Ben
- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 25 November 2011 10:43 To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! I must admit I've been very slow about writing entries for the Azabat games for audiogames.net, basically because most

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hello, Why not make audiogames.net upgrade a little and let the users rate and comment each game, directly on their respective pages ? I think this is kind of standard feature

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2011-11-25 Thread Ben
November 2011 17:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! sinse this has come up as such a major reminder I'll bring the issue to Sanders' attention, sinse maybe he can cobble up some sort of temporary fix, such as having a reviews room on audiogames.net with pages

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2011-11-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, While I understand your frustration with the RNIB I think a lot of the problem is you only have one agency in the U.K. redistributing materials for the blind. In the USA, for example, there are several different agencies where accessible aids, braille books, and software products can be

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2011-11-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Which makes sense. I do realize as the administrator you do have to be non-biased when writing up descriptions/entries for the games and I see the problem. Were I in that situation I would have a similar personal conflict of interest. Its not easy writing up a completely non-bias entry

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2011-11-25 Thread dark
Hi Tom. For books, remember that the situation and law in the states is very different to that over here. In I believe 1949, the Us government posted a bill that rights to printed materials for print disabled people was a governmental initiative and began the library of congress funded with

Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled!

2011-11-25 Thread dark
I don't, all while giving as much pure information as seems needed. Bewre the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hi

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2011-11-25 Thread Valiant8086
Hi. I like your opinions on this topic, but you do state that you can download 10 scanned books per month from bookshare, but it's more than that, in fact I believe it might be 200. I know I've downloaded more than 10 in one sitting before. I'll find a series and grab the whole series right

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2011-11-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah, I am aware you can download more than 10, I'm not exactly sure what the limit is these days, but I was just trying to point out I can download several books from Bookshare and listen to them via a daisy reader, convert them to braille, and print them out etc. It makes going to Learning

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2011-11-25 Thread john
thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 12:56:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] I'm appauled! Hi Dark, While I understand your frustration with the RNIB I think a lot of the problem is you only have one agency in the U.K. redistributing