It's come to my attention that people have felt the need to pass around cracked
versions of judgment day and other LWorks products.
This email is a departure from the standard emails about how piracy is bad.
Ya. It's bad. We all know that. My big question is. why do people feel th
eneed to
titude.
Thanks.
Regards,
Damien
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From: "Tj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:31 PM
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> Hi Liam,
>
> I personally have found it just fine.
Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're not
supporting
it anymore Liam, is there any way that it can be registered? I mean, I can't
vuy it. I
can't register it. And there's not even a way to download it, but I have the
setup file for it.
So, what is there to
okay liam I admit it
I cracked JD because well I couldn't buy it because I don't have pay
pal, nothing
On 2/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're
> not supporting
> it anymore Liam, is there any way that it ca
products I've orders so I can
attempt to get all my trofies, and beat X1 without getting touched again.
Just my two sents and pointless rambling.
Tj
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Sent: Monday,
an283
system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Tourin 64 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM HDD
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m: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:27 PM
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> Hi,
>
> I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but:
>
> 1. In future, ca
cussion list"
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi Liam,
>
> I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just
> fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something
> like
ot;Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:03 PM
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> okay liam I admit it
> I cracked JD because well I couldn't buy it because I don't have pay
> pal, nothing
>
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> okay liam I admit it
> I cracked JD because well I couldn't buy it because I don't have pay
> pal, nothing
>
> On 2/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
doubt it would make a spot of difference.
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:27 PM
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> Hi,
>
> I don'
Monday, February 04, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi,
>
> I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but:
>
> 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does this
> cost)?
> Its really hard for me as I don't ow
Hi,
I'll admit that I used to crack audio games about when I first came into the
community, probably about a year ago, and I was actually stupid enough to
believe, oh free, I'll take it. Then people are like its wrong, and I then
learned it was cracking, and devs were trying to make money, so I sto
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:27 AM
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> Hi,
>
> I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but:
>
> 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does this
> cost)?
>
n list"
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're
> not supporting
> it anymore Liam, is there any way that it can be registered? I mean, I
> can't vuy i
Hi Liam and all,
I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some
explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you
need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate.
A few years ago, back in my late teens and early 20's, I use to heavily
be int
and why do we need to reg it anyway I can play the entire thing as it is.
At 12:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're not
>supporting
>it anymore Liam, is there any way that it can be registered? I mean, I can't
>vuy it. I
>can'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi Liam and all,
> I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some
> explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you
> need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate.
> A
I aggree, I don't have a credit card and may not have one for some time, i
don't use one.
My parents get the stuff but this means I can't always have the things I whant
when I like.
Cheques are not that secure though same with money orders.
I think a load of us do or should have net banking so ma
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> ya know. now that I got my main machien back up, I really should do
> something with it. I'm not really sure why it's as popular a
Hi Charles,
Well, the answer to your question is simple. Humans lie best when we lie
to ourselves. We are masters of making up double standards such as
software cracking is wrong until it is inconvenient for me.
Charles Rivard wrote:
> You say, and I quote, "I personally have found it just fine.
;
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi Liam and all,
> I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some
> explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you
> need to get into the mind
Hi Shaun and all,
I don't know if you are aware of this but you can do direct bank
transfers and electronic checks with paypal.com as well as credit card
payments. Even if you don't have a credit card you can pay directly from
your checking account. There should be no reason to crack software do
Hi Damien,
Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing
to bet most of us have copied a music cd, recorded a music tape, etc and
gave it to a friend not thinking much about it. Well, I use to feel
that way about cracking software.I was very idealistic, and sort of
b
I think it restricts the bonus round.
Regards,
Damien
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From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment d
Hi Charles,
I am glad you liked my message. It is one of those insights that comes
with age and maturity. You know how teenagers are?
Well, as a teenager I was your typical teen who thought he knew
everything about everything. I was the perfect Marxist though I didn't
know it at the time. Let's
yes, nice job. Your mad, but didn't go pointing fingers! again, good way of
handeling it.
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:40 PM
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ay, February 04, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> yes, nice job. Your mad, but didn't go pointing fingers! again, good way
> of
> handeling it.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Damien Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: &
Hello
As for Paypal, I'm sure most devs wouldn't have trouble accepting a money
order since it's still garanteed funds. Simply just send an email and ask
if arrangements can be made.
Ron
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> You say, and I quote, "I personally have found it just fine. I don't
> understand why people just
> fork out the money for h
eir pride
> Then we'd see the day when nobody died.
> Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Au
>
>
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>From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I do
yeah, music and audio is one thing software is another.
At 04:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Damien,
>Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing
>to bet most of us have copied a music cd, recorded a music tape, etc and
>gave it to a friend not thinking much about
ldwave, GWVoice, DVD Audio Extractor, and various software
>libraries, including registration, encryption and recording systems.
>
>Regards,
>Damien
>
>
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>To: "Gamers Discussion l
right on the nail tom as always.
At 03:51 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Charles,
>Well, the answer to your question is simple. Humans lie best when we lie
>to ourselves. We are masters of making up double standards such as
>software cracking is wrong until it is inconvenient for me.
>
>Charles R
well I am around 25 now, I try to stay as free as I can without going alegal
software wise.
I still do music though.
Really would run out of space if I didn't have mp3s.
At 04:41 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Charles,
>I am glad you liked my message. It is one of those insights that comes
>with
e -
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>>
>>
>> > You say, and I quote, "I personally h
CTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list"
>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>
>> and why do we need to reg it anyway I can play the entire thing as it is.
>> At 12:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>>>Spea
Hi Liam,
I know how much work goes into making games. And I know that there is even
more if you are trying to sell them, have on line play or score boards.
Truthfully I have never bought an accessible game. However I have never ever
cracked or run a cracked one either. I do have a few of th
that I enjoy I bought legal licences
>> for, as well as Goldwave, GWVoice, DVD Audio Extractor, and various software
>> libraries, including registration, encryption and recording systems.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Damien
>>
>>
>> - Original Message --
eryone Cared
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>>
>>
>&g
This is the kind of attitude which clearly shows a 2-faced mentality. On
one hand you say you don't pirate software, then on the other hand, you
say you pirate music. What's the difference?
Amazing hypocrisy.
shaun everiss said the following on 2/5/2008 3:29 AM:
> well I am around 25 now, I try
d stuff.
Kuvvosh
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:39 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
Why do you need to format once a month.
You don'
ne Cared
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> >
> >
> > &
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 AM
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>I tried to program but gave in, did some courses and just didn't get
>interested.
> I do try to stay as legally free if I can, a
shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died.
Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pira
dy cried
>> If everyone loved and nobody lied
>> If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
>> Then we'd see the day when nobody died.
>> Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:48 AM
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
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> You say, and I quote, "I personally have found it just fine. I don't
> understand why people just
> fork out the mon
4
Check out my blog at:
www.blindspots.net
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From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:35 AM
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> This is the kind of attitude
day, February 05, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> yeah, music and audio is one thing software is another.
> At 04:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote:
>>Hi Damien,
>>Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing
>>to bet most o
ing a game. Sarah
and the gma games are examples.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:35 PM
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> Well I don'
Well said, Thomas!
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> Hi Liam and all,
> I haven&#x
Indeed it does.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:54 AM
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> I think it restricts the bon
"Damien Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:54 AM
> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
> > I think it restricts the bonus round.
> > Regards,
> > Damien
> >
>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:36 AM
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>I think he was refering to the fact that selling the game Beep for any
> price,
Given what Thomas says, to me the piracy question is relative, in some cases
and for some products, I have seen cases where I would justify piracy, but,
in this case, I think it's awful. We must remember that Liam is not some
multi-million-dollar company, and I also don't think he's charging hug
Who knows, you might get some poor guy who'll pay you for that, grin!
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>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:39 AM
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>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>Why do you need to format once a month.
>You don't have to do that unless something is failing.
>Something is failing and the thing needs t
mas!
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM
>To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>>Hi Liam and all,
>>I haven't cracked any of
, as all you do
> > is
> > hit the space bar for 5 minutes, then its over! Just my thoughts.
> >
> > --
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> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:48 AM
> > To: "Gamers Discussion list"
&g
t;James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Come on now, that's just unfare, I created a list for software downloads
> because
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Well said, except James Scholes created a list for everything piracy. So,
> yeah.
> Well said Thom. , if you need more info about this list I could supply it.
> Email me offlist
> though.
>
st"
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Given what Thomas says, to me the piracy question is relative, in some
> cases
> and for some products, I have seen cases where I would justify piracy,
> but,
> in this case, I think
ng. I love audio
games, so why would I use pirated copies of them?
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> Well said, e
Well said.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> It's been a while but I believe I'll step into the
Here's my take on the subject.
If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that.
Whether it be downloading mp3's or games or what ever. Games and software I
don't pirate in case I need the technical support. But for stull like jaws
cracks and the like I can definitely see why
nobody lied
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride
Then we'd see the day when nobody died.
Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
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> Here's my take on the subject.
>
> If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than th
amers Discussion list
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At least GW Micro lets you buy Window-Eyes on time. FS doesn't let you do
that for JAWS. But tell me this. What if you need techncal support for that
screen reader you pirated? As far as i'm concerned it's no differen
wed their pride
>>> Then we'd see the day when nobody died.
>>> Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>>> Sent:
yeah I know, I think most copy mp3s, though, they are everyware.
Even copying a cd is pirating even if its for personal use.
I think though it will even itself out once the industry goes digital, its
already happening.
Its just the industry wasn't ready at the time.
At 02:35 a.m. 6/02/2008, you
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>
>Why do you need to format once a month.
>You don't have to do that unless something is failing.
>Something is
To: Gamers Discussion list
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yeah I know, I think most copy mp3s, though, they are everyware. Even
copying a cd is pirating even if its for personal use. I think though it
will even itself out once the industry goes digital, its already happening.
It
day when nobody died.
>> > Nickelback, If Everyone Cared
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM
>>
uot;
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Here's my take on the subject.
>
> If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that.
> Whether it be downloading mp3's or games or what ever. Games a
it in a format that your screen reader will read.
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>From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>
>
m: "Trouble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list"
>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:11 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>
>> If you format that much. Then either you got major issues with the
>> box and hardware
a Vista machine, I'll have to do that all
>over again. If people keep passing around keys and cracks, I just hope
>developers keep their legal customers foremost.
>
>Michael Feir
>Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
>1996-2004
>Check out my blog at:
>www.blindspo
Yeah, in the perfect world we buy software thats good and everyone puts in
their share.
Ofcause its not, some choose to copy software and at the other end some
software companies especially the bigger ones can sell software for high prices
thats prety much a pile of dung and not worth it at all.
Although I don't pirate jaws and stuff yeah reader companies do charge loads.
Jaws is supposed to be now charged with tax now to.
At 08:56 a.m. 6/02/2008, you wrote:
>Here's my take on the subject.
>
>If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that.
>Whether it be downloading
Hi Ryan,
As a game developer a thought comes to mind is there any particular
reason why you don't have a Paypal.com account? A Paypal.com account is
free, can be used world wide, allows direct bank transfers, credit
cards, and even electronic checks. It just seams to me saying you
cracked a gam
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi,
> yes but with gw-micro you don't have to pirate because they have a monthly
> payment plan now.
> the only one that doesn't is freedom scientific.
>
> - Original Mess
Hi,
No there isn't really a particular reason, I haven't really though about it
much. And no I cracked because, well I didn't know much about audiogames,
and I know this sounds non-truthful, so people who were in my contact list,
who will remain un-named, kept sending me things, so I just took them
No, there are instances that I have seen where for the case of humanity, I
am looking at it from the perspective of the developing world where money is
scarce, and, let us say, before NVDA and free screen readers, there were,
let's call them needs, and there were questions of refused funding for
Hi Shaun,
Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking about
a day or two ago. It is very hypocritical, and comes back to my point we
lie best when we lie to ourselves.
On one hand you say pirating software is wrong, but on the other you say
pirating music is O.K. Did it eve
Hi Kuvvosh,
Well, I do think reformatting your hard drive that often is a bit
extreme, but I do think I have three suggestions that can help you.
1. Buy an extra computer. Use one as a test machine and the other as a
day to day computer for everything else.
2. Buy a removable drive tray. These a
Hi Willem,
Actually, I usually don't have a problem with the GMA product keys. I
have reinstalled XP before, and have been able to reuse my license keys.
If product activations is really a big problem for you you should invest
in a drive copy software so you can image a clean install of XP, Vista
s
have to work on the Sabbath too.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> No, there are instances that I have seen where for
Hi Michael,
Quote
On the face of it, piracy doesn't seem wrong because no physical goods
are being taken. I think we're all still
catching up to the new digital world we live in. We have a hard time seeing
the physical consequences of the act and that has allowed piracy to become
as pervasive as
Hi Oriol,
I am not writing you to flame you or pick on you, but I do think your
excuse for cracking is still a pretty lame excuse to crack and pirate.
With a little time and money you can invest in software or hardware to
make piracy unnecessary. You can invest in drive imaging software, buy
e
Yeah, thanks from me too for that site.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:48 PM
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
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> Hmm thanks
ry 06, 2008 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
> Hi Shaun,
> Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking about
> a day or two ago. It is very hypocritical, and comes back to my point we
> lie best when we lie to ourselves.
> On one hand you sa
> To: "Gamers Discussion list"
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day
>
>
>
>> I think he was refering to the fact that selling the game Beep for any
>> price, no matter how low, with be a completely
list
does it. But how many will admit to it especially when they are quick to
judge others for copying software?
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Sent: 06 February 2008 15:53
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Hi,
The question the inquiring mind wants to know if the software is high
priced and a pile of dung why would you want to crack it anyway? After
all there is no sense in cracking a piece of software illegally if you
think it is crap to begin with.
shaun everiss wrote:
> Yeah, in the perfect wor
here here Darren! Not judgemental! Sure, it is stealing, but in some cases I
consider it a more Robin Hood type act. But I do think for blind games and
software, for me ethically, piracy is a no-no, because people like Thomas
and Liam are one-man businesses, trying to make a living, they're doin
Hi,
Well, it is true that Jaws, Window Eyes, Hal, etc do cost quite a bit of
cash, but there are now free and low cost alternatives in the works.
NVDA is totally free, and is good enough for most day to day use. My
Universal Screen Access software doesn't currently have a price, but I
think it
Hi Ari,
I totally understand where those people are coming from in the cases
below, and I can sympathize with their situation. Unfortunately, that
isn't the fault of the company that produced the product in question. It
is the fault of society in general, and the economic status of the
developi
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>> Hi Shaun,
>> Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking about
>> a day or two
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into the discussion since the entire list has *grin*.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:07 PM
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> Hi Josh,
> Wel
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