because they're friggin lazy, that's why.
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the negativity of santa claus in accessible games
Hi Lisa,
Good point.
Hi Shaun,
Perhaps, but one could just as easily finger the real offender in the
case. If someone reacts violently the responcibility still lies with the
individual not the violent game.
shaun everiss wrote:
Its easy to blame the the games, etc, because its just easy.
And well it can happen.
Hi Shaun,
Oh, yeah. I have violent games on my system as well. SOD comes to mind.
I enjoy cutting down and slottering monsters by the score, but when it
comes to reality no.
shaun everiss wrote:
tom I think the thing is we have easy targets.
Games are violent, so lets blame that.
Hmm I'd
Hi Bryan,
Yeah, I don't know where some of these parents are when these kids are
buying or playing some of these games. Then, usually they are the first
ones to point the finger at the game rather than little Jonnie's actions.
When I was growing up one or both of my parents knew what games I
Lol! Sounds like a great title.
Charles Rivard wrote:
Tom: A lot of parents would buy that game that goes to your head for their
kids, knowing what the outcome would be. Could the game be called Lost in
Cyber Space?
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From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Even if there was a rating system implemented, I still don't see games like
toy robbery as a threat to children. I do know, however, that some of the
gaming web sites do put disclaimers on their games. For instance, Shades of
Doom does put a warning about its sounds in the game, and states that
Hi Lisa,
I do have a son, and I agree. He isn't old enough to begin playing
games, but in a couple of years I'll start him out on classic arcade
games like space invaders, Packman, etc which I feel is appropriate for
children. Sure there is some violence in those games, but it is very low
key.
I agree 100%. I love Grand theft Auto, even though I can't play much of
it--but does that mean I'm going to go out in the street and kill people
after I play it? That's about as likely as me, going out in the street,
yelling panzer! and a tank falling from the sky for me to drive.
Ken Downey
there are
people who kill people because of the games they play
No, no. That's not right. There are people, already killers at some level,
who play these games for practice. The games don't make killers--but
killers may use some of these games as stepping-stones or tools. Can games
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The reason I said that I think children will be naughty if they don't
deserve christmass presents, that they will be naughty and do the same
with the
Nobody says your opinion wasn't well expressed. All we're saying is that
violent games really only have a negative impact on people if people allow
them to do so. That's why they have the rating system. The idea is that a
parent or guardian would take a look at that M on that one game and
I think they are available from www.aifcommunity.org under the games and
then the tads section. Note that the term AIF stands for adult
interactive fiction where as IF stands for interactive fiction which is
of the more traditional kind. So, most everything at aifcommunity.org
will be adult in
Hmmm... Now, that is an interesting game idea.Make a game that can go
out and kill someone. Then, the shrinks can really say the game done it.
Wicked Grin.
How about games going to the head. Perhaps a game were your conscience
is transfered in side a computer and the only way to come back to
Hi Lisa,
Good point. Also if the kids don't know the difference between right and
wrong, and then the parents aren't doing their job of instructing their
children in what is exceptable and unexceptable conduct. I certainly
don't think some games are suitable for 5 year olds, and if a parent
Hi Ken,
That is a very interesting observation you made, and one I tend to agree
with. People who generally kill have other mental issues
besides a violent game telling them to go and kill. Generally, killers
are angry at the world for some reason, they may have a over all lack of
compassion
Hi Bryan,
I don't think anyone in living memory can forget the coffee case. To me
that is simply another sign of the times that many people are unwilling
to stand up and admit they made a mistake and take responcibility for
it. If they burn themselves it's the other guys fault, if they buy a
Tom: A lot of parents would buy that game that goes to your head for their
kids, knowing what the outcome would be. Could the game be called Lost in
Cyber Space?
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I do aggree that some games may get kids thinking that they have the warld
in there hands.
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From: Nicol Oosthuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ken the Crazy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re:
Its easy to blame the the games, etc, because its just easy.
And well it can happen.
After all thats why games, movies, etc have a r type rating system mostly.
like r18.
Ofcause this is not law, you can buy an r 18 game even if you are yung.
I think even if you have a parent with you you shouldn't
tom I think the thing is we have easy targets.
Games are violent, so lets blame that.
Hmm I'd think we'd blame the dog if anyone would believe us.
Its our nature unfortunately.
Its something we will have to really stop doing.
Read my previous msg.
As I said there is no stopping someone under 18
grin
Anyone read red dwarf, there is a game called better than life.
Its addicting.
However outside the game world you become dead, you just waste away.
In the books the game was deemed alegal on earth but someone pirated
the game and started making coppies.
It would be a good weapon for your
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I agree with your reasonings, guys. But does any of the accessible games
have a rating on it or is it not necessary? Is there any accessible
games where
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HI all
Thomas and raul, I beg you; please don't put me on moderated status. I
would like to give upbuilding criticism. I'm not use to offer upbuilding
Hi,
*quote*
So far there are 2 accessible games around the theme christmass produced.
Both of them are really nice games, but its sad that both of them features
the negative side of santa claus. These 2 games are toy robbery from
l-works and bobby's revenge from BSC games.
*quote end*
Then
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Well, according to that link, the game is not available anymore, so
those I mentioned is the only 2 christmass games still available.
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Santa Claus is back is still available, which makes it three. And since
Giftanum still exists, there are at least 4 accessible Christmas games
*quote* produced *quote end*. I am commenting on your assumption that only 2
accessible christmas games were ever produced - which is not true.
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Hi Nicol,
I know :)
By the way, in the line of your positive/negative approach:
Santa Claus is back is pretty positive, whereas you might consider
Giftanum as negative, since you are supposedly robbing Santa of his gifts.
So that's a 3:1 ratio ;)
Greets,
Richard
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That's the only 2 I knew of. But now you told me about these 2 so at
least now I know of 2 positive christmass games. I was just trying to
give input in
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So does Giftanum work the same as toy robbery?
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Hi, Nicol,
Don't worry no one is going to moderate you for giving an honest
opinion. I felt you expressed yourself quite well.
Now, as to the games you have a point a majority of the time the
Christmas games out there are negative in nature. I am not just talking
accessible games, but
However, your complaint was that such games have not been produced, and they
actually have been.
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From: Nicol Oosthuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the negativity
There is an adult interactive fiction game called Santa's Little Helper
in which you play an elf trying to get things organized for the big
night out for Santa. If anything, Santa is made out to be a non-computer
and a non-smart person but he really comes off like a corporate big-wig
who owns
Well put, Tom. If people can only tell the difference between games and
real life and take responsibility for their own actions! Sheesh. Is it the
fault of a gun or bullet manufacturer if their product operates as expected
when you point a loaded gun at someone and pull the trigger? No,
This is way off the topic of games but it bears on this discussion. I don't
know if any of you heard on the news quite a while back about that lady that
sued a McDonalds because she spilled a cup of hot coffee in her lap. She
said they didn't tell her it was hot. In the words of the great Bill
They're just games. If you're concerned about what games are teaching
children, I'd worry about the fact that you have five-year-olds playing
fighter games like Mortal Combat. I think games like Toy Robbery and Bobby's
Revenge are just harmless fun, and most children old enough to play the
Wasn't someone hosting the game Giftanum?
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From: AudioGames.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the negativity of santa claus in accessible games
Hi,
*quote*
So
I'm just seeing this now, so I have to respond.
The whole pointof a game is to take us out of reality and to put us
somewhere else. I quite enjoy the concept of stealing presents from santa
clause as it is soemthign that is different and not normally seen. If a
child is naughty because of my
Lol sounds like a Jim kitchen game to me! :) hahaha
anyway where does one download this? Lol
Cheers!
At 11:42 PM 20/09/2006, you wrote:
There is an adult interactive fiction game called Santa's Little Helper
in which you play an elf trying to get things organized for the big
night out for Santa.
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Is it also a game like win frotz games where you type your commands?
Where do I get the html tads program?
Thanks
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