Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Jarod Wilson
urceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped > withganglia > > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:16 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora. However, > > without a special exception, it won

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Bernard Li
developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:16 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora. However, > without a special exception, it won't be built for FC4, as FC4 has > entered 'mainten

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:16 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora. However, > without a special exception, it won't be built for FC4, as FC4 has > entered 'maintenance mode' (meaning generally nothing new gets built, > only fixes for existing packag

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 08:34 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > --- Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems we are safe for "expat", need to check "apr" and are kind of > > > lost for "libconfuse". > > > > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora. However, > > without a

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 06:13 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Hi Bernard, > > > > as I said, if nobody is hurt :-) > > > > Being curious I did a quick check on my favourite distribution > (FC4, > > yum-uptodate): > > > > - apr/apr-devel is

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 06:13 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > Hi Bernard, > > as I said, if nobody is hurt :-) > > Being curious I did a quick check on my favourite distribution (FC4, > yum-uptodate): > > - apr/apr-devel is 0.9.6-3.5, which is older that what we ship (0.9.7) > - expat/expa

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-08-16 06:13:16 -0700, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > as I said, if nobody is hurt :-) > > Being curious I did a quick check on my favourite distribution (FC4, > yum-uptodate): > > - apr/apr-devel is 0.9.6-3.5, which is older that what we ship (0.9.7) > - expat/expat-devel is 1.95.8-6, w

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-16 Thread Martin Knoblauch
gt; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of > Jarod Wilson > Sent: Mon 14/08/2006 10:42 > To: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with > ganglia > > On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 15:41

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-14 Thread Jarod Wilson
lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with > ganglia > > On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 15:41 -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > > Hi all: > > > > In discussion with Marcus Rueckert (SUSE Linux packager), he > suggested > &g

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-14 Thread Bernard Li
14/08/2006 10:42 To: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 15:41 -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > Hi all: > > In discussion with Marcus Rueckert (SUSE Linux packager), he suggested >

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-14 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 15:41 -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > Hi all: > > In discussion with Marcus Rueckert (SUSE Linux packager), he suggested > a solution which the subversion folks are doing in their latest 1.4.0 > RC - to ship dependencies in a separate tarball. This way, for Linux > packagers, we

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-13 Thread Stu Teasdale
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 03:41:01PM -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > Hi all: > > In discussion with Marcus Rueckert (SUSE Linux packager), he suggested > a solution which the subversion folks are doing in their latest 1.4.0 > RC - to ship dependencies in a separate tarball. This way, for Linux > packa

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-12 Thread Bernard Li
gt; > > From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Fri 21/07/2006 02:21 > To: Bernard Li; Stu Teasdale; ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia > > &

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-12 Thread Brooks Davis
_ > > From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Fri 21/07/2006 02:21 > To: Bernard Li; Stu Teasdale; ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia > > > > Hi Bernard, >

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-08-12 Thread Bernard Li
nt: Fri 21/07/2006 02:21 To: Bernard Li; Stu Teasdale; ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia Hi Bernard, sorry for note commenting earlier. If we were only talking about Linux, I would say we should just throw aw

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-07-21 Thread Martin Knoblauch
issues so perhaps we can make the official change in the > code repository? > > Thanks, > > Bernard > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stu > Teasdale > Sent: Thu 23/02/2006 08:53 > To: ganglia-developers@lists.source

RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-05-22 Thread Bernard Li
itory? Thanks, Bernard From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stu Teasdale Sent: Thu 23/02/2006 08:53 To: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia On 23 Feb 2006, at 01:07, Martin Knob

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-26 Thread Ole Turvoll
Alex Balk wrote: Ole, That's an interesting setup you have there. Sounds quite similar to what I've put together, except for the DB backend. I avoided that as I didn't want System personnel to have to deal with a DB. I especially like your idea on generating gmond.conf files... I assume you ac

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-25 Thread Alex Balk
Ole, That's an interesting setup you have there. Sounds quite similar to what I've put together, except for the DB backend. I avoided that as I didn't want System personnel to have to deal with a DB. I especially like your idea on generating gmond.conf files... I assume you account for "DB offlin

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-24 Thread Chris Croswhite
Ole, Thanks for this level of information. I think I also share concerns about load scripts on the hosts and have a slightly more complex structure but close enough so it is good to hear that other people are having good success in this type of deployment. If you are ever allowed, I would welcom

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-24 Thread Ole Turvoll
Chris, all, I'm in the same legal position as Alex (In addition I'm not allowed to use my work email address and rely on my ISP email service is only up intermittently - but webmail is blocked while I'm at work). However I'd like to share my experience. Our hierarchy (by geography) is as foll

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Alex Balk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > >> We wouldn't have to have a release out the door without properly > >> testing it under most OS/archs. > >> > >> > > > > We did last time :-) And it works pretty well. Doing a 3.0.3 with

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Balk
Martin Knoblauch wrote: [snip] > >> We wouldn't have to have a release out the door without properly >> testing it under most OS/archs. >> >> > > We did last time :-) And it works pretty well. Doing a 3.0.3 with > apr-0.9.7 does not sound a big risk to me. > > Not to nitpick, but

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Croswhite
Alex, Thanks for the great information. I'll check out the Jan email thread and then follow up with more questions. BTW, the script statement did come across rather badly, sorry about that (and after all that PC training I was required to take!) Thanks Chris On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 10:36, Alex B

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Balk
Chris Croswhite wrote: > Alex, > > Yeah, I already have a ton of questions and need some pointers in large > scale deploys (best practices, do's, dont's, etc,). > > Till I get the legal issues out of the way, I can't share the scripts... What I can do, however, is share the ideas I've impleme

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread matt massie
On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Martin Knoblauch wrote: I believe apr was modified to include multicast functionality, I'm not sure about the rest. Hi Brooks, good point. Now I remember the same. Time for a session with "diff" :-) Martin Matt, "diff" does not make me happy. It seems our v

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Croswhite
Alex, Yeah, I already have a ton of questions and need some pointers in large scale deploys (best practices, do's, dont's, etc,). I would love to get my hands on your shell scripts to figure out what you are doing (the unicast idea is pretty good). Chris On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 09:35, Alex Balk

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Alex Balk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > >>> I believe apr was modified to include multicast functionality, > I'm > >>> not sure about > >>> the rest. > >>> > >> Hi Brooks, > >> > >> good point. Now I remem

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Balk
Chris, Cool! Thanks! If you need any pointers on large-scale deployments, beyond the excellent thread that was discussed here last month, drop us a line. I'm managing Ganglia on a cluster of about the same size as yours, spanning multiple sites. I've developed a framework for automating the de

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Stu Teasdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 08:04:23AM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > do you remember where you implemented the multicast stuff? It > seems > > that apr-1.2.2 now has MC support built in. Maybe we can drop it > from > > our source. > > > > Question

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
Hi Chris, great :-) - HP-UX is highly needed (HPPA and IA64) - I can do Solaris 8 with gcc, but 7/9/10 would be great. Especially with the Sun compiler - Solaris 10 on AMD-64 is needed - I can do AIX 5.3 with xlc and with you we have two other victims - Linux is not a big deal Thanks

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Croswhite
> This raises another issue, which I believe is significant to the > development process of Ganglia. At the moment we don't seem to have > (correct me if I'm wrong) official testers for various platforms. > Maybe we could have some people volunteer to be official beta testers? > We wouldn't have to

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Stu Teasdale
On 23 Feb 2006, at 01:07, Martin Knoblauch wrote: Hi Matt, you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code which are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle this for Ganglia. Are the versions of apr, expat and confuse shipped with the current code just

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Stu Teasdale
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 08:04:23AM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > do you remember where you implemented the multicast stuff? It seems > that apr-1.2.2 now has MC support built in. Maybe we can drop it from > our source. > > Questions to others: what version of apr is nowadays shipped with > di

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Balk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Knoblauch wrote: >>> I believe apr was modified to include multicast functionality, I'm >>> not sure about >>> the rest. >>> >> Hi Brooks, >> >> good point. Now I remember the same. Time for a session with "diff" >> :-) >> >> Martin >> > Mat

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:07:08PM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > > > you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code > which > > are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle > > this for Gangli

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:07:08PM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > > > you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code > which > > are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle > > this for Gangli

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-22 Thread Martin Knoblauch
> > > > I believe apr was modified to include multicast functionality, I'm > > not sure about > > the rest. > > > Hi Brooks, > > good point. Now I remember the same. Time for a session with "diff" > :-) > > Martin > Matt, "diff" does not make me happy. It seems our version of apr-0.9.5 was

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-22 Thread Martin Knoblauch
--- Brooks Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:07:08PM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > > Hi Matt, > > > > you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code > which > > are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle > > this for Gangli

Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-22 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:07:08PM -0800, Martin Knoblauch wrote: > Hi Matt, > > you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code which > are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle > this for Ganglia. > > Are the versions of apr, expat and confuse shipped

[Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as shipped with ganglia

2006-02-22 Thread Martin Knoblauch
Hi Matt, you may have seen the recent report about problems in apr code which are solved in later versions. This opens the question how to handle this for Ganglia. Are the versions of apr, expat and confuse shipped with the current code just unmodified copies of the stuff, or are there ganglia