Hello Everyone
I wanted to let you know that if there is someone interested in
working on the libJIT approach instead of using LLVM overkill under a
Google Summer of Code code project and more general on this topic or
as a diploma I am ready to mentor and help with this.
Thanks,
Kirill
Basile STARYNKEVITCH wrote:
I believe that Kiril mentioned in a separate post the equation
(mcs | csc | cscc) gcc libJIT == LLVM ?
I tend to believe that Kiril dreams of building a CLI/.NET
infrastructure and VM which uses all the powerful optimisations of GCC.
For reference to Kiril:
David Edelsohn wrote:
My explanations seem to have also failed to explain you.
Unfortunately, one really needs have some back group with both
Just-In-Time compilers,Virtual Machines, and Common Intermediate
Language to understand this area. I understand that it is not your
area of expertise,
Hello
After many considerations, I want to let everyone know about a release
of my work done in a package:
0.1.2.5 + / 0.1.2 1/2 version release (code name: libJIT-ON-TESTOSTERONE)
* main branch + libJIT-linear-scan-register-allocator
* Add optimization levels for IA-32 from
About the benchmarks you know what I mean I guess. That they don't
prove anything, no matter how hard other people want to prove the
inverse. Concrete figures will be in incoming research papers I am
working right now. So just don't start right now with saying give us
figures :-)
Thanks,
Kirill
Hello Everyone
Do I understand it correctly that there are no useful thoughts or
ideas with flamimg and flooding about LLVM?
Thanks,
Kirill
2009/4/1 Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com:
Please, let collect together all useful ideas and concrete thoughts? I
am sure many people
Do I understand it correctly that there are no useful thoughts or
ideas with-out- flaming and flooding about LLVM?
Thanks,
Kirill
2009/4/1 Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com:
Please, let collect together all useful ideas and concrete thoughts? I
am sure many people already have
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
Do I understand it correctly that there are no useful thoughts or
ideas with-out- flaming and flooding about LLVM?
I will admit that I don't have any ideas, but I thought there were a couple
of positive suggestions in there.
It's possible there's a bit of library
There have been mentioned a couple of ideas indeed. But I would not
like to spend a lot of my precious time on telling my thoughts and
suggestions, if the topic is already decided elsewhere. So I basically
want asking question which exactly JITing support GCC needs, that I
don't spend my time in
Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com writes:
There have been mentioned a couple of ideas indeed. But I would not
like to spend a lot of my precious time on telling my thoughts and
suggestions, if the topic is already decided elsewhere. So I basically
want asking question which exactly
Hi Ian,
Thank you a lot for your reply.
There have been mentioned a couple of ideas indeed. But I would not
like to spend a lot of my precious time on telling my thoughts and
suggestions, if the topic is already decided elsewhere. So I basically
want asking question which exactly JITing
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54, Kirill Kononenko
kirill.konone...@gmail.com wrote:
What I want to identify is how both a VM engine(ILDJIT,
.NET for example, Mono, Portable.NET), gcc and libJIT could be
extended with minimal changes to both, for best user experience for
example, is it speed
Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com writes:
There have been mentioned a couple of ideas indeed. But I would not
like to spend a lot of my precious time on telling my thoughts and
suggestions, if the topic is already decided elsewhere. So I basically
want
I have been criticized for inserting a mail from a public mail list
into this mail list. My position is that if a guy contradicts himself
in two different public mail lists, it is a reason to point to this.
Public mail list is a 'public' mail list. It is a source of reference,
for books for
Hello Dear GCC Developers,
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems to
me that LLVM solves many goals that are already complete
And no this is not a 1st April joke :-)
Thanks,
Kirill
2009/4/1 Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com:
Hello Dear GCC Developers,
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems to
me that LLVM solves many goals that are already complete and
More useful in implementation of Just-In-Time compilation in Virtual
Machine runtimes. For example, for Microsoft Common Intermediate
Language (.NET).
Thanks,
Kirill
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems to
me that LLVM solves
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems to
me that LLVM solves
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within gcc source tree. It seems to
me that
Basile STARYNKEVITCH wrote:
The second issue (which perhaps Kirill did not thought of) would be to
accelerate some internal optimisations of GCC by using JIT-code
generation techniques within the compiler itself. There are several
occasions within GCC where complex internal processing
Kirill Kononenko wrote (citing me Basile)
The second issue (which perhaps Kirill did not thought of) would be to
accelerate some internal optimisations of GCC by using JIT-code generation
techniques within the compiler itself. There are several occasions within
GCC where complex internal
2009/4/1 Dave Korn dave.korn.cyg...@googlemail.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is
The second issue (which perhaps Kirill did not thought of) would be to
accelerate some internal optimisations of GCC by using JIT-code
generation techniques within the compiler itself. There are several
occasions within GCC where complex internal processing happens, and one
could imagine to
However, I see several interesting issues raised here:
the first is to [re-]use GCC for just in time compilation, for instance to
JIT-compile CLI or JVM bytecode into machine code, or even C or some
specialized gimple-like representation into machine code, or CLISP into
machine code, all
Andrew Haley wrote:
Useful for what? I think you have to tell us how this will improve the
experience of gcc users .
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
More useful in implementation of Just-In-Time compilation in Virtual
Machine runtimes. For example, for Microsoft Common Intermediate
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
2009/4/1 Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com:
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is
2009/4/1 Basile STARYNKEVITCH bas...@starynkevitch.net:
The second issue (which perhaps Kirill did not thought of) would be to
accelerate some internal optimisations of GCC by using JIT-code
generation
techniques within the compiler itself. There are several occasions within
GCC where
Kirill Kononenko wrote:
LLVM is an overkill for JIT compilation. I think the tasks which LLVM
solves are already solved within GCC transformations, or can be
integrated very easily with libJIT. LibJIT is also much easier in
usage, for ordinary developers. So what I see here, LLVM is rather a
2009/4/1 Dave Korn dave.korn.cyg...@googlemail.com:
LLVM is an overkill for JIT compilation. I think the tasks which LLVM
solves are already solved within GCC transformations, or can be
integrated very easily with libJIT. LibJIT is also much easier in
usage, for ordinary developers. So what I
Dave Korn wrote:
Kirill and Andrew wrote:
April Fool's joke
not your area of expertise
Maybe it would be for the best if you two started over, before this turns
sour.
I'm out of here already! All I can say is that I hope my boss never finds
out that virtual machines and JITs are not
Kirill and Andrew wrote:
April Fool's joke
not your area of expertise
Maybe it would be for the best if you two started over, before this turns
sour.
I'm out of here already! All I can say is that I hope my boss never finds
out that virtual machines and JITs are not my area of
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Kirill Kononenko
kirill.konone...@gmail.com wrote:
My explanations seem to have also failed to explain you.
Unfortunately, one really needs have some back group with both
Just-In-Time compilers,Virtual Machines, and Common Intermediate
Language to understand
My explanations seem to have also failed to explain you.
Unfortunately, one really needs have some back group with both
Just-In-Time compilers,Virtual Machines, and Common Intermediate
Language to understand this area. I understand that it is not your
area of expertise, so it is not an issue
My explanations seem to have also failed to explain you.
Unfortunately, one really needs have some back group with both
Just-In-Time compilers,Virtual Machines, and Common Intermediate
Language to understand this area. I understand that it is not your
area of expertise, so it is not an issue
On Apr 1, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Dave Korn wrote:
It seems to
me that LLVM solves many goals that are already complete and solved
in
GCC. So I think libJIT potentially is more useful for GCC and
software
developers.
but you don't say what libjit would be more useful than, or how this
overlap
It seems to
me that LLVM solves many goals that are already complete and solved in
GCC. So I think libJIT potentially is more useful for GCC and software
developers.
but you don't say what libjit would be more useful than, or how this
overlap
between solved goals between gcc and llvm
2009/4/1 Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com:
This is what Chris Lattner wrote a couple of years ago. Now I see an
exactly contradiction:
Please, could you pinpoint side-by-side the two sentences that
contradict each other and later give links to (or quote) the context?
I am having
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:54:55PM +0200, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote:
2009/4/1 Kirill Kononenko kirill.konone...@gmail.com:
This is what Chris Lattner wrote a couple of years ago. Now I see an
exactly contradiction:
Please, could you pinpoint side-by-side the two sentences that
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Kirill Kononenko
kirill.konone...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Dear GCC Developers,
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example, the
same way as libffi is integrated within
2009/4/1 Daniel Berlin dber...@dberlin.org:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Kirill Kononenko
kirill.konone...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Dear GCC Developers,
I would like to ask your opinion about possibility for integration of
the libJIT Just-In-Time compilation library and GCC. For example,
Please, let collect together all useful ideas and concrete thoughts? I
am sure many people already have thought about which JITing support
GCC users need. I also do have my thoughts about this research topic
but I would like also to have useful feedback from people who also
understand this
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