Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-05 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi all, On Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2007, Werner Hoch wrote: Yes, but it's quit easy doing it in the hierarchical structur of hdf5: simulation_n -- plot_n -- table or simulation_n -- plot_n -- metadata simulation_n -- plot_n -- vector_n Here's a first shot of a spice2hdf5 converter script:

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-03 Thread Dan McMahill
al davis wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out 30,000 node voltages and be able to pick out one to plot without it taking a long time? I don't know the answer, but it seems like a binary format could have

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-03 Thread al davis
On Monday 03 December 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: That's all fine and there is a lot of value in only saving a subset of the outputs, but also there are times when someone might run a sim which takes 2 days and needs the ability to do a fair amount of trouble shooting on the results.  I'd

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Dan and all, On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: Werner Hoch wrote: Yes, but I'd still would like to have a standard binary format. hdf5 would be nice. http://hdf.ncsa.uiuc.edu/products/hdf5/index.html How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread KURT PETERS
of the JRE, why can't you? Kurt Message: 6 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:43:31 -0500 From: Dan McMahill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread KURT PETERS
. Kurt Message: 4 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:56:20 -0500 From: al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Friday 30 November 2007, KURT PETERS wrote

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-02 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Dan McMahill wrote: How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out 30,000 node voltages and be able to pick out one to plot without it taking a long time?  I don't know the answer, but it seems like a binary format could have advantages there.

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  If you use ngspice for simulation, you can use an Octave plug-in to plot your results using Octave.  (Octave is an open-source MATLAB equivalent.) Here's a link: http://ngspice.sourceforge.net/octavespice.html If Gnucap exports .raw

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Werner Hoch wrote: That's right, but the format still does not contain all required informations to use the data. This is easy. * your loosing the headlines can easily be added .. need a spec. could use the CaZM format, which is already supported by gwave.

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Al, Stuart and all, On Samstag, 1. Dezember 2007, al davis wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  If you use ngspice for simulation, you can use an Octave plug-in to plot your results using Octave.  (Octave is an open-source MATLAB equivalent.) Here's a link:

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread al davis
On Saturday 01 December 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: *  QUCS.  This is really more of an entire simulation system with options to perform various analog, RF, and maybe digital simulations. I don't know how far along it is, or how easy it is to use. It is windoze-style, fully integrated,

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Dan McMahill
Werner Hoch wrote: It seems strange to me that when there is an obvious, easy to read for humans, easy for a computer to read, easy to generate format, that everything except Spice uses .. that Spice doesn't change to that format. Every Spice variant has its own raw format. They should

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Robert Butts
Wow, incredible support! Don't let anyone say you don't help out newbies. I have the kids this weekend so I won't get a chance to work on this until late Sunday est. Thanks! On Dec 1, 2007 11:12 AM, Dan McMahill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner Hoch wrote: It seems strange to me that when

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-12-01 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:12:52 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: How well to ascii output files scale when you want to write out 30,000 node voltages and be able to pick out one to plot without it taking a long time? I don't know the answer, but it seems like a binary format could have advantages

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
... it doesn't help that guile-gtk basically died. gwave either has to do a rewrite and dump guile-gtk or it has to use guile-gnome (or whatever it is called) which adds another whole large pile of dependencies. Otherwise it is stuck with guile-gtk that uses gtk1. I have guile-gtk-2.0

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:21:32PM -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems. [chop] Just remember, KJWaves works out of the box Yawn. Wake me when KJWaves works on a stock Debian system, without resorting to a non-free repository. If you get tired of waiting for IcedTea, you

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: Nothing specific, get comfortable with simulation.  I came from using Mentor products, GUI driven, quite some time ago.  I started using LTSpice because it seemed familiar.  Then decided to resist the GUI urge and get comfortable with ngspice

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.    This is, once again, non-issues for all but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... It doesn't matter whether I am or not. If kjwaves depends on non-free software some distributions

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread KURT PETERS
won't cause anyone to crash their OS. :-) Kurt Message: 8 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:17:49 -0500 From: al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave To: geda-user@moria.seul.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Friday

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
On Friday 30 November 2007, KURT PETERS wrote: Really sad to think you just crashed your OS trying to install gwave, when you could have just been using KJWaves... Does it work with gnucap yet? Did you fix the dependency on a particular version of Java?

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread KURT PETERS
Really sad to think you just crashed your OS trying to install gwave, when you could have just been using KJWaves... Kurt ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Dan McMahill
KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.This is, once again, non-issues for all I think that is a bold statement. but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... As for GnuCap support... I have seen no request for GnuCap support on the sourceforge page.

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread al davis
reply in pieces... On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: I don't know if I went with the wrong distribution when selecting Fedora.  A freind suggested it because they were rumored to have good support.  In hind sight I probably should have asked everyone here, the gEDA gurus, what

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Butts
Thanks for all the input, however, I have a BSOD! I thought I was being safe by posting those questions prior to screwing with, and screwing up, my system but somehow screwing up is the end result. I started up in linux, fedora 7, to have at it again. After some script flashing past me during

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 17:24 -0500, Robert Butts wrote: I was able to get to a console and log in but couldn't find this log file. What command can I use that will give me a list of commands available? ls (short for list) Examples from my box, (yours might be a little different, but the it

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 19:21 -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: Just remember, KJWaves works out of the box and certainly won't cause anyone to crash their OS. :-) Nor will gwave, its just difficult to build. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:21:32PM -0500, KURT PETERS wrote: There are no dependency problems.This is, once again, non-issues for all but the most crazy FOSS zeolots, which, apparently, you're one of... I'm sure it has nothing to do with Java applications being even more of a pain to

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Butts
I was able to get to a console and log in but couldn't find this log file. What command can I use that will give me a list of commands available? On Nov 30, 2007 3:19 PM, al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reply in pieces... On Friday 30 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: I don't know if I

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 14:40 -0500, Robert Butts wrote: Thanks for all the input, however, I have a BSOD! I thought I was being safe by posting those questions prior to screwing with, and screwing up, my system but somehow screwing up is the end result. I started up in linux, fedora 7, to

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Clifton
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 22:55 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote: al davis wrote: On Thursday 29 November 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: Yeah, I know that several people will now chime in and say It's easy! I think he's using Fedora ... Isn't there a package available? How about: yum

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread Robert Butts
There is an executable in /usr/local/bin named guile. There is a usr/local/share/guile/1.6 directory. There are two directories named 1.6and 1.8 in usr/share/guile. So I guess I'm not sure where it was installed and I'd rather not guess. Other than searching for guile files how can I tell

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread Stuart Brorson
Robert, If you couldn't tell already, I am new to Linux so this is somewhat vague to me. You've been trying to install gwave for quite a while now. Your basic problem is that gwave has not been supported or brought up to date for perhaps five years. It relies upon several libraries which

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread Dan McMahill
Stuart Brorson wrote: Robert, If you couldn't tell already, I am new to Linux so this is somewhat vague to me. You've been trying to install gwave for quite a while now. Your basic problem is that gwave has not been supported or brought up to date for perhaps five years. It relies

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread John Griessen
Robert Butts wrote: There is an executable in /usr/local/bin named guile. There is a usr/local/share/guile/1.6 directory. There are two directories named 1.6and 1.8 in usr/share/guile. So I guess I'm not sure where it was installed and I'd rather not guess. Other than searching for guile

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread Dan McMahill
Robert Butts wrote: There is an executable in /usr/local/bin named guile. There is a usr/local/share/guile/1.6 directory. There are two directories named 1.6 and 1.8 in usr/share/guile. So I guess I'm not sure where it was installed and I'd rather not guess. Other than searching for

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread Dan McMahill
al davis wrote: On Thursday 29 November 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote: Yeah, I know that several people will now chime in and say It's easy! I think he's using Fedora ... Isn't there a package available? How about: yum install gwave but you are correct. There is a real

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-29 Thread al davis
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote:  Yeah, I know that several people will now chime in and say It's easy! I think he's using Fedora ... Isn't there a package available? How about: yum install gwave but you are correct. There is a real problem here. and the creator

gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-28 Thread Robert Butts
I'm trying to install gwave-20060606 on my system which is Fedora 7, i386. I created a temporary directory and unpacked gwave. I configured gwave with no faults but got 2 make errors. I have attached two text files, the ./configure output and the make output.. Thanks gwave configure printout

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Robert Butts wrote: I'm trying to install gwave-20060606 on my system which is Fedora 7, i386. I created a temporary directory and unpacked gwave. I configured gwave with no faults but got 2 make errors. I have attached two text files, the ./configure output and the make output..

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-28 Thread al davis
On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Robert Butts wrote: 'm trying to install gwave-20060606 on my system which is Fedora 7, i386. I created a temporary directory and unpacked gwave.  I configured gwave with no faults but got 2 make errors. Most likely you have guile-1.8 installed. You need

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-28 Thread Robert Butts
Dan is correct in that I have guile-1.6 and 1.8 installed. It was suggested that I install 1.6 and see if it would run with 1.8. My question is can I remove 1.8 without messing something else up? On Nov 28, 2007 6:00 PM, al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2007, Robert

Re: gEDA-user: 2 make errors installing gwave

2007-11-28 Thread Dan McMahill
If you have them both installed, are they in different directories or do they have different names? If different directories, then just do something like this env PATH=/path/to/guile-1.6/bin:${PATH} ./configure If they are installed in the same place but with different names,