[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread Byron Como
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0005_01C24EF4.BBF55740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Heh, Heh. Yesterday I pulled a fully functional P200 out of my = neighbor's garbage. 98megs of ram, 3gig hd,

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2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
I agree with Tim. Knoppix is ideal for demonstration, but it will confuse newbies who want to install. IIRC, DemoLinux can be installed from within the live filesystem. But, I would instead recommend RedHat and/or Mandrake. Or, if I had to choose, Mandrake. I agree with you Dustin that we need to

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
Byron, You may be interested to know that the Linux SIG has started a project to recycle old PCs with Linux and other free|OSS for individuals/organizations with a demonstrated need. John Hebert --- Byron Como <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, Heh. Yesterday I pulled a fully functional P200

[brlug-general] Public Library Project Name Voting

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
What version of Netscape? It works with Mozilla 1.0 and above. Oh, and Dustin mentioned you need Java enabled. Doug Riddle --- Mnemonic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was curious to know if anyone else tried to access the BRLUG > voting area

[brlug-general] Schedule for the library program..

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
--0-1788231736-1030622944=:28858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline That's why I think it very important we actually contact the Vendors. I resaved my draft letter to the vendors as rtf an attached here (it had be abi). I suggest we send something like this to

[brlug-general] FOSSILE-type project in Oklahoma

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Should we close pllug and reopen fossile-project, or wait until the voting is in? Doug --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We need to get the sf.net site up and running Real Soon Now. We > need: > > x mailing lists on the sf.net site > x place to keep our documents (ie., library prop

[brlug-general] Re: [MS and Redhat was: We can we start burning some CDs for the library project?

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
No, this was a lot of talk back before the went public. --- Tim Fournet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you're referring to an announcement dated April 1. > > > >Old news - 1999/2000 MS pumped some money into RedHat. It was > part > >of their early campain against the DOJ anti-trust suit.

[brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
I agree. That and the necessity for a swap partition. Most Linux boxes are easily availble to Knoppix, but a windows box would need to be repartitioned according to the info on the site. Doug --- Tim Fournet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the aim is to not confuse people, I don't think Knoppix

[brlug-general] Re: Public Library project

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Jon: We sure appreciate all of your help Jon! We think the project will get Open Source and Linux on the map in Louisiana! I was considering two sizes, one for a pocket on a tee shirt, one for either the back of a tee shirt, or a front with no pocket. I was going to get my fashion doll 17

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2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
I am still pushing for LibraNet. It is a great distro, and the developers have been behind the project since I mentioned it to them three months ago. They are creating iron images for the promotion items and posting the labels for us to use. That is the sort of distribution we need to use; one t

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
What is required for demonstrated need? I know a church that could use two computers. Doug Riddle --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Byron, > > You may be interested to know that the Linux SIG > has started a project to recycle old PCs with Linux > and other free|OSS for individu

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread Robert Leche
--410E17F6B2F3B4DD58D21D33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know of at least one department at LSU that would stand to benefit from the donations of computers and computer related equipment. Bob John Hebert wrote: > Byron, > > You ma

[brlug-general] FOSSILE-type project in Oklahoma

2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
Let's wait for the voting to close. John Hebert --- Doug Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should we close pllug and reopen fossile-project, or > wait until the > voting is in? > > Doug > > --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We need to get the sf.net site up and running Real >

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
There are no real guidelines other than a general gut feeling that recipients would put the computers to a good use and not immediately resell them. Since churches are a community service organization, they would certainly qualify. Any non-profit, community service oriented organization would be e

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
Bob, You should check out www.cacrc.com and possibly ask them for donations. The Recycling PCs with Linux project at is still in the formative stages, so I'm not sure where we will be getting machines from. I'll bet that this department could easily get corporate donations of PCs from area b

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread Byron Como
My experiences going to garage sales indicate that non-computer savvy computer owners may use a computer for a year or two, then when his Windows install goes bad thinks the computer is bad. He then goes out and buys a new one and puts the old, perfectly good machine in the closet. There are probab

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2002-08-29 Thread Byron Como
Mandrake, then RedHat followed up by Lycoris and ELIX. Ok by me. - Original Message - From: "John Hebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate > I agree with Tim. Knoppix is

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
Being a newbie to Linux but not computers, I am downloading the LibraNet 2.0 essential iso and will install it on a Micron P133 w/64 mb RAM. I have 5.7 and a 4 G drives on it. I'll let you know what happens. Larry - Original Message - From: "Doug Riddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thurs

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2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
2.0r2 is in the brlug library - the full install. I had the version you are getting installed on a P166 with 128 MB of RAM. You should have no issues, but I doubt Open Office will run on only 64 MB of RAM. --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being a newbie to Linux but not computers, I a

[brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Bill LeBlanc
Dustin, Are we only targeting newbies? I am sure that there are lots of people out there that do not have fast access that would love to be able to run down to their local library, checkout their favorite distro, take it home, and burn copies. If we do not use the designs of the manufacturers

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2002-08-29 Thread John Hebert
Cool, thanks Larry. Been wanting to try it out, as well as Lycoris and ELX and OpenBSD 3.1 and ... :) Would be nice to get your perspective on it. Anyone other than Ed has tried out Lycoris and ELX? John Hebert --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being a newbie to Linux but not computer

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
No, but we did have some Lycoris people join the Libranet user group in the last couple of weeks. It was about the latest release, I do not know if it left them cold, or didn't come in time or what. Just that they siad they would miss the community, but not the Lycoris. --- John Hebert <[EMAIL P

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread Robert Leche
--697F8D5F6DDC07718DD7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, This could be answered in a couple ways. One, I have to believe state universities will always have a perpetual 'hand out', and would gladly accept usable computing resource

[brlug-general] Correl and Quatro Pro got new contact witj Dell

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Interesting news. It seems that Dell and HP decided to go with Correl's Word Perfect and Quatro Pro's spread sheet over MicroSoft Works. There's good news for people buying computers. Not really an Open Source news item, but it is another brick out of the MS wall. = Warmest Regards, Doug Ri

[brlug-general] Public Library Project Name Voting

2002-08-29 Thread Kory Wnuk
I do not recall exactly the version of Netscape, however, I think it is 4.77? I do have Java enabled. Generally I do not use Netscape. I just happened to have it open when I went to vote. -K --- Doug Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What version of Netscape? It works with Mozilla 1.0 > and

[brlug-general] Public Library Project Name Voting

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Dustin mentioned it was buggy with netscape for some reason. I suspect it is the way Netscape implements java. --- Kory Wnuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not recall exactly the version of Netscape, > however, I think it is 4.77? I do have Java enabled. > Generally I do not use Netscape. I

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2002-08-29 Thread Richards, Ed
I started download LibraNet during lunch, at 190 kb/sec (gotta love broadband!), and will install it tonite. I'll post my thoughts. Ed Richards, PE Staff Electrical Engineer Ford, Bacon & Davis, LLC 12021 Lakeland Park Drive Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 Office - 225-297-3335 Fax - 225-756-3056 Ce

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
First problem installing, my old computer won't boot from the CD so I had to go to the floppy readme file and it said: In Windows: Open a dos window and change to the 'floppies' directory on the Libranet CD run: rawrite2.exe -f floppy1-ide.img -d A -n Label this floppy "floppy 1" run: rawri

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distrib utions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Banker, Craig
do a tomsrtbt, mount yer rom, put in a floppy, and do a 'dd' - a device write. can't remember the parms but a google search will yeild the correct command -Original Message- From: Larry Braud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:36 PM To: General@brlug.net

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2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Good luck. I warn you though. It could be bad. You might never go back to your other distributions --- "Richards, Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started download LibraNet during lunch, at 190 kb/sec (gotta love > broadband!), and will install it tonite. I'll post my thoughts. > > Ed R

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2002-08-29 Thread Jason DeWitt
Wow, I gotta get me some of that! hey is that kilobyes/second or kilobits/second? Richards, Ed wrote: > I started download LibraNet during lunch, at 190 kb/sec (gotta love > broadband!), and will install it tonite. I'll post my thoughts. > > Ed Richards, PE > Staff Electrical Engineer > Ford, B

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2002-08-29 Thread Richards, Ed
LOL.But is that a BAD thing? I am not married to any distribution at this point. I'm just looking for the best solution. I'll let you know:-) Ed Richards, PE Staff Electrical Engineer Ford, Bacon & Davis, LLC 12021 Lakeland Park Drive Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 Office - 225-297-3335 Fax

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distrib utions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Richards, Ed
I think that would be bits.:-) Ed Richards, PE Staff Electrical Engineer Ford, Bacon & Davis, LLC 12021 Lakeland Park Drive Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 Office - 225-297-3335 Fax - 225-756-3056 Cell - 225-964-2606 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original M

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2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
In a Dos Window in the directory of the CD where rawrite exists yout type: rawrite2.exe -f floppy2-ide.img -d A -n When you do that, what error do you get? Doug --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First problem installing, my old computer won't boot from the CD so > I had to > go to the

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distrib utions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Jason DeWitt
hehe, we turned up an 8 megabit dsl circuit to one of our employee's houses the other day and he was downloading at like 350 kiloBYTES a second. I'm pretty sure it's kilobytes, in Mozilla it shows your download speed in KB, that's kilobytes, right? When I start thinking about this stuff I thi

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2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
In a Dos Window in the directory of the CD where rawrite exists yout type: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages When you do that, what error do you get? Doug --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First problem installing, my old computer won't boot from the CD so > I had to > go to the

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
I'm in the floppies directory and when I use that command I get: "RaWrite 2.0 - Write disk file to raw floppy diskette Floppy2-ide: No such file or directory" and I can see the file listed above in the DOS window. Larry - Original Message - From: "Doug Riddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent:

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
'http:' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. Larry - Original Message - From: "Doug Riddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distributions to d

[brlug-general] RE: Transfer Speed was RE: distros for newbies?

2002-08-29 Thread Kory Wnuk
Ed, Are you running over a cable? It looks like a sustained transfer speed that is close to the modem cap implemented by Cox. Strange thing is that I get ~330 kbs with DSL...or are we talking bits vesus bytes? -K --- "Richards, Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started download LibraNet durin

[brlug-general] RE: Transfer Speed was RE: distros for newbie s?

2002-08-29 Thread Richards, Ed
Kory, Yes, I am on Cox cable. I am not sure about bits or bytes. I never really gave it a lot of thought since, when I was on dial up, 2 to 4 kbps was the norm. I just know that generally anything over 40 to 50 under Windoze is usually "smokin'" so I was just delighted at 190 kbps. Explorer was f

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
I don't know how that debian address got in there!! The floppy 1 was the same as floppy 2 except for the number. Larry - Original Message - From: "Doug Riddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed

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2002-08-29 Thread Carter, Jim
Try this: dir /x flop*.img Use the short filename. Your floppy2-ide.img is over your 8.3 limit. Jim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Larry Braud > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:32 PM > To: General@brlug.net > Subject: Re: dis

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distributions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Sorry, that was a cut and paste error. --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'http:' is not recognized as an internal or external command, > operable program or batch file. > Larry > - Original Message - > From: "Doug Riddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 20

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distrib utions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
The debian address was a cut and paste (read operator) error. If it is not working for either file, it could be a file name size issue, although I do not remember having that issue... the file sizes on those should be 474560. Try it with just: rawrite floppy1-ide.img skipping the variables. Let

[brlug-general] RE: Transfer Speed was RE: distros for newbies?

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Must be nice to be close enough to a trunk line for dsl. [Harumph.] COX does indeed impose a cap, but some times they let their guard down... I just wish there was a level playing field and the price could drop. (head nodding from side to side like a Miss America Contestant): I also wish that fairi

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
When Jim mentioned about the 8.3 filename, I had to copy the files to the hard drive and rename them. The problem is that the ide and scsi files are on the same directory. Once I had the files named right, the "rawrite" program wrote to the floppies. I think this is a major problem for anyone that

[brlug-general] RE: Transfer Speed was RE: distros for newbies?

2002-08-29 Thread Terry Stockdale
I suspect Ed meant KB/sec, since 190 KB/sec (aka 190 kB/sec, but not 190 kb/sec) is fairly normal in my experience. Lows tend to be on specific sites that are throttled, but highs may be in the 280 KB/sec, 320 KB/sec or higher, range. Terry At 01:38 PM 8/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Ed, > >Are y

[brlug-general] Dumpster Diving for computers

2002-08-29 Thread CMB
Note that cacrc doesn't really 'donate', they loan out the computers to organization like schools. I'm trying to connect them up with my kids' school. I'm also sideways pitching linux. - Original Message - From: "John Hebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:3

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2002-08-29 Thread Larry Braud
Next problem. I wiped all info off the primary drive and divided it into the main and a swap drive. I then started the installation and after about 15/20 minutes I get an error message: Basesystem failed, and the next error window: Base install failed. I then try to restart and there is no active O

distros for newbies? was Re: [brlug-general] Proposed distrib utions to donate

2002-08-29 Thread Doug Riddle
Larry: What was the size of your HDD? You needed at least 600MB for the initial install. You needed a partion at least as large as you RAM fr the swap file. All of that should have been in the readme.txt --- Larry Braud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Next problem. I wiped all info off the primary

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2002-08-29 Thread Jason Dewitt
It would be nice to live close enough to anything to be able to get any sort of broadband. well I could get satelite, but I won't waste my money on that. dial up is better for gaming than that crap. Maybe if I get to move closer to the office I can turn me up one of those 8Mb dsl's like the oth