On 1/16/06, Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 17.01.2006, at 00:02, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
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> > Martin Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> whether I get involved with the Zimbra toolkit, and try to help them
> >> see the light, I need to make a personal decision between putting my
> >> energy into t
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:42:17PM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote:
> The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for a VOTE
> to see if the incubator wants to sponsor and accept this proposal for
> incubation.
Looking at the wiki page and a cursory glance at the source, my question is
one
On 17.01.2006, at 03:55, David Crossley wrote:
Erik Abele wrote:
+1 - I don't know how to add this to the incubator-site myself (is
anakia now ready to use?) but I'd really like to see this somewhere
on incubator.a.o, e.g. http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html...
Not yet ready. Lack of staff:
Erik Abele wrote:
>
> +1 - I don't know how to add this to the incubator-site myself (is
> anakia now ready to use?) but I'd really like to see this somewhere
> on incubator.a.o, e.g. http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html...
Not yet ready. Lack of staff:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=113719
On 17.01.2006, at 03:12, Sam Ruby wrote:
Erik Abele wrote:
On 16.01.2006, at 02:42, Sam Ruby wrote:
The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for
a VOTE to see if the incubator wants to sponsor and accept this
proposal for incubation.
As Roy and Leo (and others?) already
On 17.01.2006, at 03:04, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Erik Abele wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
FWIW, I would want to see your technical concerns addressed before
graduation, but so far, we have had little if any discussion of
what those tecnical issues really are, or so it seems from the
archives.
Erik Abele wrote:
On 16.01.2006, at 02:42, Sam Ruby wrote:
The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for a
VOTE to see if the incubator wants to sponsor and accept this
proposal for incubation.
As Roy and Leo (and others?) already noted, the proposal as sent is
lacking
Erik Abele wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > FWIW, I would want to see your technical concerns addressed before
> > graduation, but so far, we have had little if any discussion of
> > what those tecnical issues really are, or so it seems from the
> > archives.
> Remember that it's about the com
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 09:18, Erik Abele wrote:
> Seriously, I don't understand why you are talking about code maturity
> here - IMO this isn't and shouldn't be one of the incubators concerns
> - you are here to discuss legal stuff, community issues, mentors and
> the Apache Way, no?
Bingo!
N
On 17.01.2006, at 00:33, Sam Ruby wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We seem to agree on the rest, but the proposal should make it clear,
since those are points that appear to concern (some) others.
To be honest, I would rather those points be placed on an general
incubator page as they apply to
On 17.01.2006, at 00:02, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Martin Cooper wrote:
whether I get involved with the Zimbra toolkit, and try to help them
see the light, I need to make a personal decision between putting my
energy into that, here at the ASF, or putting it into a non-ASF
project that is already
On 16.01.2006, at 02:42, Sam Ruby wrote:
The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for a
VOTE to see if the incubator wants to sponsor and accept this
proposal for incubation.
As Roy and Leo (and others?) already noted, the proposal as sent is
lacking some vital informat
On 1/16/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Martin Cooper wrote:
>
> > whether I get involved with the Zimbra toolkit, and try to help them
> > see the light, I need to make a personal decision between putting my
> > energy into that, here at the ASF, or putting it into a non-ASF
> >
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
We seem to agree on the rest, but the proposal should make it clear,
since those are points that appear to concern (some) others.
To be honest, I would rather those points be placed on an general
incubator page as they apply to every proposal.
* No codebase within the
Sam,
> > - we need to appropriately name the project.
> Sure, let's name it after a region in the south pacific
Truk? JAAT? [Just Another AJAX Toolkit] I don't care.
We seem to agree on the rest, but the proposal should make it clear, since
those are points that appear to concern (some) oth
Martin Cooper wrote:
> whether I get involved with the Zimbra toolkit, and try to help them
> see the light, I need to make a personal decision between putting my
> energy into that, here at the ASF, or putting it into a non-ASF
> project that is already on the right track. I know I don't have the
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Sam,
As others have suggested, please attach the proposal. Is this a vote
on the proposal contained in
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted by Ross Dargahi on January 11, 2006?
Yes, and I've copy and pasted it below.
I'd put it in the wiki, but that requires a name
I'd be very happy to have a discussion on technical points as well.
regards,
Martin
On 1/16/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martin Cooper wrote:
>
> > Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't believe that the ASF should be a place for "crowning"
> > > staid and m
David N. Welton wrote:
> I guess it should be placed on the wiki? I'll do that later today if no
> one else beats me to it.
Here we go:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OFBizProposal
I changed the proposed sponsor to the Incubator PMC, as that's
apparently the done thing.
Ciao,
--
David N. W
Martin Cooper wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't believe that the ASF should be a place for "crowning"
> > staid and mature projects. I would like to see continued
> > innovation here, too.
> I agree with you. Unfortunately, from what I've seen from looking
> at Zimb
On 1/16/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Martin Cooper wrote:
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> > I *care* about the quality of what we build here at the ASF. [X]
> > can very easily cause problems when [...]
>
> I have no problem with either of the above (redacted) sentences. However,
> the answer, in my vie
Upayavira wrote:
> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > Hopefully before graduation we'll get a couple more AJAX projects
> > coming in and getting all married together or co-existing/competing
> > under the same TLP umbrella.
> And surely it doesn't make sense to have multiple (potentially
> competing
Martin Cooper wrote:
> I *care* about the quality of what we build here at the ASF. [X]
> can very easily cause problems when [...]
I have no problem with either of the above (redacted) sentences. However,
the answer, in my view, is not to wait for X to become perfected elsewhere.
Rather, if the
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> we get an umbrella every time we approve a project named
> after a technology *space* instead of a product.
Just to nitpick, I feel that the Directory project has done a fine job of
avoiding umbrella-ship, despite serving up a number of directory service
related protocols
Andrew Clark wrote:
> I thought the whole purpose of the Incubator was to allow
> potential code time to breathe and its respective community
> to get some legs behind it.
Yes. People seem to be viewing proposals as if they were ready to leave the
Incubator, not just ready to enter it.
Persona
Sam,
As others have suggested, please attach the proposal. Is this a vote on the
proposal contained in
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted by Ross Dargahi on January 11, 2006?
I believe that many of the complaints people have raised previously, or
currently, can be addressed by renaming
-1.
* There is no proposal in this email nor a URL reference to one. It
looks like an attachment was stripped or something. Attachments suck.
* it should have a different name from "AJAX toolkit" (and someone
should update whatever docs we have to note that projects should have
distinctive
On Jan 15, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for a
VOTE to see if the incubator wants to sponsor and accept this
proposal for incubation.
Is the proposal updated in the wiki?
Does it contain all of the committers and mentors, by na
There's no guarantee that any particular project will even
exit incubation. So I don't agree that a bit of code entering
incubation is a defacto endorsement by Apache.
I thought the whole purpose of the Incubator was to allow
potential code time to breathe and its respective community
to get some
My obligatory +1. :)
- Original Message -
From: Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:42:17 PM
Subject: [VOTE] AJAX Toolkit Proposal - Updated
The discussion has died down, and the time has come to call for a VOTE
to see if the inc
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David N. Welton commented on INCUBATOR-12:
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I wouldn't get carried away reworking the whole thing. Just provide a link to
where the mailing lists are...
Cheers,
Any other questions or comments on this for now?
I guess it should be placed on the wiki? I'll do that later today if no
one else beats me to it.
Ciao,
--
David N. Welton
- http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/
Linux, Open Source Consulting
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David N. Welton commented on INCUBATOR-10:
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I would put TLP's as the most likely sponsor *if a project would fit*, then the
incubator PMC, then the board, as a las
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> >
> >>What's the status of moving the incubator site to Anakia? There seemed
> >>to be strong preferences leaning that way up until a couple weeks ago.
> >>Here's the last thread I spotted in the archive:
> >>http://mail
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