Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/28/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > > apache mirrors for incubating projects. > > The maven re

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
On 7/28/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > apache mirrors for incubating projects. The maven repositories are no longer mirrored, so that rule is no longer ap

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the apache mirrors for incubating projects. The maven repositories are no longer mirrored, so that rule is no longer applicable for releasing jars into the maven repository.

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 28 July 2006 11:48, Martin Cooper wrote: > That _is_ the first thing I think of in relation to Glasgow Me too... Does that mean we have been around too long and should plan retirement ;o) Cheers Niclas - To unsubscr

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Cooper
On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Martin, For just a moment, I thought you were serious. I was. That _is_ the first thing I think of in relation to Glasgow and software. Just because it's not the latest technology doesn't make me forget the association. ;-) It does s

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martin, For just a moment, I thought you were serious. JavaBeans Activation Framework, 1999. JavaBeans Drag and Drop, 1998. If Glasgow were really a software name to be worried about, I think we might have heard more of it in the last 6 years... Craig On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Martin

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
I think of no associations with software projects when hearing Glasgow. Craig On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On 7/27/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Garrett > > Some of us spoke about this at lunch. As

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Cooper
On 7/27/06, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Garrett > > Some of us spoke about this at lunch. As Glasgow is part of the > university name, "Glasgow Haskell" > it should not present a conflict. In addition, our legal department ha

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garrett Some of us spoke about this at lunch. As Glasgow is part of the university name, "Glasgow Haskell" it should not present a conflict. In addition, our legal department has conducted a trademark search of the word "Glasgow" and come up

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Carl Trieloff
Garrett Some of us spoke about this at lunch. As Glasgow is part of the university name, "Glasgow Haskell" it should not present a conflict. In addition, our legal department has conducted a trademark search of the word "Glasgow" and come up with no software-related registrations. Regards Ca

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After debate, and many trademark searches we have selected new name that is free of any trademarks in the software space. ( not that easy) The new name for Blaze is Glasgow. I will update the wiki. How about the Glasgow Haskell Compiler?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martijn, My email is spotty for some reason; I haven't seen much feedback for you on the alias. Here's my take: On Jul 27, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and release it on sf.net (our previous host) without bra

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 28 July 2006 00:17, Leo Simons wrote: >  * release elsewhere, making sure to give things an appropriately different >    name and making sure both users and the incubator PMC understand what it >    all means and what is going on Oscar 1.0 became Apache Felix (incubating), and Richard Ha

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Brian McCallister
+0 (I'd love to see it happen, but don't expect to be able to contribute). Nice folks, and anything with Upayavira, Sylvain, and Alex involved is destined to conquer the world anyway :-) -Brian On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:54 AM, Upayavira wrote: The Wicket developers (http://wicket.sourceforge

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 23:54, Upayavira wrote: > The Wicket developers (http://wicket.sourceforge.net) have expressed a > desire to incubate their project within the ASF. +1, non-binding. The Wicket community is vibrant, diverse and already operating closely to the "Apache Way", and (if I may

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:37:04AM -0700, Igor Vaynberg wrote: > >* release elsewhere, making sure to give things an appropriately different > > name and making sure both users and the incubator PMC understand what > > it all means and what is going on > > imho, i would much rather see wicket-

Continuum for incubator (was: Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?)

2006-07-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:02:07AM -0700, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > What I more like that a seperate maven1/2 repo is maybe a incubator > continuum server. > Currently Trinidad uses that MyFaces continuum server. > > What do you think? Doesn't make sense to me. Where possible incubator shouldn

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After debate, and many trademark searches we have selected new name that is free of any trademarks in the software space. great ( not that easy) not easy at all :-) thanks - robert -

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Carl Trieloff
After debate, and many trademark searches we have selected new name that is free of any trademarks in the software space. ( not that easy) The new name for Blaze is Glasgow. I will update the wiki. Regards Carl. Carl Trieloff wrote: Naming of Blaze, Based on all the feedback provided, and

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > > apache mirrors for incubating projects. > > Why do y

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Johan Compagner
imho, i would much rather see wicket-1.2.2 rather then wicket-incubating-1.2.2 as a release. to me incubating says "not ready for production use". it might mean something different in the apache context but we cant expect all our existing users or those who stumble upon wicket for the first time t

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> So we put this to the guideline? > incubator + mX (+ SNAPSHOT) I'd like to get another Maven "expert" in here on this, but I know I've seen "issues" with having a version that doesn't start with a number. Thus, something like: 0.1-incubator-m1-SNAPSHOT or 1.0-incubator-m1-SNAPSHOT or similar

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday July 27 2006 1:13 pm, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > incubator-m1-SNAPSHOT > > > > > > incubator + > > > m1 = milestone1 > > > + SNAPSHOT (since no m1 release yet) > > > > Sounds good to me. > > So we put this to the guideline? > incubator + mX (+ SNAPSHOT) I'd like to get another

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
We could do - though given the choice I'd rather keep the m2 snapshot repo for just snapshots (of both incubating and non-incubating projects) and use the existing m2 repo for just actual releases of projects (both incubating and non-incubating). +1 we already do http://people.apache.org/repo/m

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
On 7/27/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > incubator-m1-SNAPSHOT > > > > incubator + > > m1 = milestone1 > > + SNAPSHOT (since no m1 release yet) > > Sounds good to me. So we put this to the guideline? incubator + mX (+ SNAPSHOT) > > What I more like that a seperate maven

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> incubator-m1-SNAPSHOT > > incubator + > m1 = milestone1 > + SNAPSHOT (since no m1 release yet) Sounds good to me. So we put this to the guideline? incubator + mX (+ SNAPSHOT) > What I more like that a seperate maven1/2 repo is maybe a incubator > continuum server. > Currently Trinidad us

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
On 7/27/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually thats a good argument for using a single maven 2 repository > for incubating and non-incubating releases and forcing the use of the > 'incubator/incubating' text in the version of incubating projects > releases. As it means if

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Actually thats a good argument for using a single maven 2 repository for incubating and non-incubating releases and forcing the use of the 'incubator/incubating' text in the version of incubating projects releases. As it means if you are looking at the POM its immediately obvious what the incubati

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Igor Vaynberg
* release elsewhere, making sure to give things an appropriately different name and making sure both users and the incubator PMC understand what it all means and what is going on imho, i would much rather see wicket-1.2.2 rather then wicket-incubating-1.2.2 as a release. to me incubating

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Leo Simons
Hey Martijn, guys, I'd really like to encourage you to take a look at how different established projects that joined apache through the incubator have handled this (spamassassin, stdcxx. roller, ofbiz, ...), as well as some of the discussion about this "releases from incubating projects" policy an

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
BTW Thanks everyone for the support! On the release note: We are very committed to support our community even when we're undergoing incubation. This would typically mean that we might need to release Wicket versions. As releases marked as incubated will probably raise an eyebrow or two, what are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Upayavira
Leo Simons wrote: > Nice proposal. Seems like a no-brainer. More Dutchies at apache is > always a good thing ;) > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:54:15PM +0100, Upayavira wrote: >> === Versions === >> >> Wicket currently has three versions of their code base, 1.2 (the current >> release), 1.3 (planne

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
On 7/27/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:14:11AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > apache mirrors for incubating projects. I didn't know of that rule. Can't find it on the web anywhere, at le

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:14:11AM +0100, James Strachan wrote: > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > apache mirrors for incubating projects. I didn't know of that rule. Can't find it on the web anywhere, at least. If it is a rule, then there's some violations.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 7/27/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nice proposal. Seems like a no-brainer. More Dutchies at apache is always a good thing ;) These Dutchies should get a life ;) > * Chris Turner is from the UK and works as an independent consultant. > He does not intend to move with us to Apac

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Johan Compagner
> * Chris Turner is from the UK and works as an independent consultant. > He does not intend to move with us to Apache. What does that mean? Does he not think wicket should move to apache? Does he not want to sign a CLA? Is there consensus within wicket on this move or isn't there? Chris is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Leo Simons
Nice proposal. Seems like a no-brainer. More Dutchies at apache is always a good thing ;) On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:54:15PM +0100, Upayavira wrote: > === Versions === > > Wicket currently has three versions of their code base, 1.2 (the current > release), 1.3 (planned) and 2.0 (unreleased). > >

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
On 7/27/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the > apache mirrors for incubating projects. Why do you think so? If, as you say, the artifact Id explicitly contains

Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread James Strachan
We currently have a maven 2 repository for maven 2 snapshot releases of incubating projects... http://people.apache.org/maven-snapshot-repository/ we also have a maven 1 repository for both incubating and non-incubating projects http://people.apache.org/repository/ and we have a maven2 repositor

Re: Maven 2 repo for incubating project releases?

2006-07-27 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On 7/27/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand the current rules of the incubator forbid the use of the apache mirrors for incubating projects. Why do you think so? If, as you say, the artifact Id explicitly contains the term "incubator", then I would think that that is abs