[VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread Todd Volkert
All: The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache Pivot 1.3 Release Candidate 2. We would now like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the artifacts on the Pivot download page. The artifacts, RAT reports, KEYS file, and release notes can be foun

[VOTE] Release cassandra 0.4.0-rc1

2009-09-03 Thread Eric Evans
The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache Cassandra 0.4.0-rc1. We would now like to request the approval of the Incubator PMC for this release. Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed, structured key-value store. Podling vote thread: http:/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Jeremy Hughes
A goal of Aries is to seed a new community focused on the development of an Enterprise Java OSGi application programming model, and runtime that is agnostic of server runtime or OSGi framework implementation. This independence from underlying technology will make Aries' appeal as broad as possible

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Kevan Miller
On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Leo Simons wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote: We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal. * Any chance of one or two of the other ASF members involved also stepping up as a mentor? That would be very good. I left my name of

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Kevan Miller
On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:19 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.> wrote: If Felix is looking at this as an opportunity, to attract more OSGi activity at the foundation, expand its base of contributors (at least to common underlying components) and demons

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Graham Charters
I think it's important that Aries have its own identity independent from a particular framework implementation (e.g. Felix or Equinox) or Kernel (e.g. Karaf, Geronimo, etc.). Independence (both technical and perception) will help make it equally consumable in each and increase the likelihood of it

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Kevan, Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I got the impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If I am wrong, what was the meat of such? I'm also less happy with the rhetoric here repeated over and over, seemingly uninterested in discussion of reac

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Richard S. Hall
There was no attempt to contact the Felix PMC in general that I am aware and I certainly didn't know about it in advance. And there seems to be a continued attempt to construe my original criticisms as "all of Aries should go into Felix". I, personally, do not believe that all of Aries should

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Richard, By having the "why should Felix..."-attitude, you solidify a stalemate stance. It creates a "why should Aries..."-attitude on the other side, for instance pointing out "there are many examples of multiple spec implementations at ASF". I'm not suggesting that Felix should bend over backwa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Ian Robinson
The discussion on this part of the proposal reflects the origins of it - people with an interest in AppServers and integration runtimes that are looking to the new EEG specs to provide additional capability in their world so that existing applications can begin to take advantage of OSGi with mi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 9/3/09 14:37, Ian Robinson wrote: The discussion on this part of the proposal reflects the origins of it - people with an interest in AppServers and integration runtimes that are looking to the new EEG specs to provide additional capability in their world so that existing applications can be

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread sebb
On 03/09/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > All: > > The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache > Pivot 1.3 Release Candidate 2. We would now like to request the permission > of the Incubator PMC to publish the artifacts on the Pivot download page. > > The artifacts, R

Re: Help reviewing PhotArk podling release

2009-09-03 Thread sebb
On 02/09/2009, Luciano Resende wrote: > A new RC is now available, please see details below : > > --- > Please review and vote on the M1-incubating release artifacts of PhotArk. > > > The artifacts are available for review at: > > http://people.apache.org/~lresende/photark/M1-incubating-RC4/ S

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread Todd Volkert
> The NOTICE file contains items which should not be there, i.e. Tomcat. > The servlet implementation could come from a number of places. We originally didn't mention it in the NOTICE file, but it got caught as something that needed to be there in our 1.1 release to remove any ambiguity as to whi

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread sebb
On 04/09/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > The NOTICE file contains items which should not be there, i.e. Tomcat. > > > > > The servlet implementation could come from a number of places. We > originally didn't mention it in the NOTICE file, but it got caught as > something that needed to be there

Re: Help reviewing PhotArk podling release

2009-09-03 Thread Luciano Resende
A new RC is now available which should fix the items mentioned, please see details below : --- The artifacts are available for review at: http://people.apache.org/~lresende/photark/M1-incubating-RC4a/ This includes the signed binary and source distributions, the RAT report, and the Maven staging

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread Todd Volkert
> > > The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk > > > icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for > > > the full text. > > > > Good to know - I'll update it on the trunk. Given that we got it from > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/

Re: [VOTE] Release Pivot 1.3 RC2

2009-09-03 Thread sebb
On 04/09/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > > > The LICENSE file does not contain the full CCA LICENSE for the Silk > > > > icons; see http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/legalcode for > > > > the full text. > > > > > > Good to know - I'll update it on the trunk. Given that we got it fro

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Kevan Miller
On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Kevan, Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I got the impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If I am wrong, what was the meat of such? No. There were some internal sensitivities to the t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Kevan, On Sep 4, 2009, at 6:48 , Kevan Miller wrote: On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Was a contact with Felix made prior to dropping the proposal here? I got the impression that wasn't the case, which I find surprising... If I am wrong, what was the meat of such?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > Perhaps could have been handled differently. However, in the end, I much > prefer holding a public discussion rather than over a private@ list. Well, the leads to the sense of "exclusion" instead of "inclusion" which we very much prefer. > H

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Kevan Miller
On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: There was no attempt to contact the Felix PMC in general that I am aware and I certainly didn't know about it in advance. And there seems to be a continued attempt to construe my original criticisms as "all of Aries should go into Felix".

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Aries incubator for Enterprise OSGi

2009-09-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > So, let's assume that one or more OSGi spec implementations are a core part > of Aries -- with specific features/customization for Aries. Personally, it > seems reasonable that an Aries project would want these customized spec > implementations