I'll give it a couple of more days for folks to look into this, then
I'll propose the community to start work on graduation.
Martijn
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
+1 to graduate. This is a project in a fierce space as Martijn noted,
and I think
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
But I guess it does meet the minimum size. If 3 is not enough, what
number is? If it does become a problem, there's an attic process.
The project is already in the process of adding another committer. I
have every intention
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Let's stop discussing this issue in the abstract then and take
a look at the current set of reports. Of the ones with signatures
of mentors,
I'm not sure looking at signatures on past reports is going to be
useful.
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote:
If there is a community
and that community doesn't want Apache to fork the code that they created,
then we will not fork that code at Apache. If the original developers of the
code do not want their license changed,
+1 (binding)
Checked sigs, looked at the artifacts, all well
Cheers!
Christian
2012/1/9 Devin Han devin...@apache.org:
Hi all,
The ODF Toolkit 0.5 is ready for release. This will be our first incubator
release.
We had a preliminary vote in the PPMC, which had great results, including a
+1
On 10 January 2012 22:03, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
Whilst I agree there is value in demonstrating a starting podling what a good
report
should look like by doing it for them, I also strongly believe in learning by
doing, so I
would still propose that a podling has
-Original Message-
From: Franklin, Matthew B. [mailto:mfrank...@mitre.org]
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:45 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: rave-...@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Rave 0.6-incubating
-Original Message-
From: sebb
-Original Message-
From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:nic...@hedhman.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:25 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
I like Joe's suggestion of having Mentors writing a report. But I
would like the PPMC
Joe Schaefer wrote:
Let's stop discussing this issue in the abstract then and take
a look at the current set of reports. Of the ones with signatures
of mentors, I see very little to gripe about- the topics and subjects
are mostly relevant to the podling's progress towards graduation.
Now lets
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:34 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
At the very least, please update the status page to document the name change.
Done.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Michael Stroucken m...@cmu.edu wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
Let's stop discussing this issue in the abstract then and take
a look at the current set of reports. Of the ones with signatures
of mentors, I see very little to gripe about- the topics and subjects
+1 sig/xsum match up, tested clean and RAT reports fine.
It's a bit odd to me that there are two source release artifacts here
(one archived with tar/gz the other with zip), I've not seen that for
other projects. Typically you want to have a single source release
artifact. You could then create
On 11 January 2012 17:49, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
+1 sig/xsum match up, tested clean and RAT reports fine.
It's a bit odd to me that there are two source release artifacts here
(one archived with tar/gz the other with zip), I've not seen that for
other projects. Typically you
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 January 2012 17:49, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
+1 sig/xsum match up, tested clean and RAT reports fine.
It's a bit odd to me that there are two source release artifacts here
(one archived with tar/gz the other with
On 11 January 2012 18:06, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 January 2012 17:49, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
+1 sig/xsum match up, tested clean and RAT reports fine.
It's a bit odd to me that there are two source
I hate the fact that these discussions continue to happen in a vacuum
devoid of any grasp of the reality that mentors typically don't do
a fucking thing for their podlings. No they don't discuss reports
on list, nor do they offer opinions on how to grow a smallish podling's
committer base, nor do
You've identified several problems in your last mails -- do you also
have a suggestion on how to move forward?
If asked, my default suggestion would be to go for what works
elsewhere, namely: reduce the IPMC to nine people, rotating annually,
who are expected to read and review all podling
Yes, we should send a message to mentors that business as usual ended
this month by closing the Incubator to new podlings for one month.
During that time we can get our house in order by going thru the disaster
zone we have created and start educating each other about mentor expectations
with some
I think Jukka meant to post this to general@i.a.o...
Karl
-- Forwarded message --
From: Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2
To: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Hi,
+1
BR,
With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more...
Karl
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Tommaso Teofili
tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Tommaso
2012/1/4 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Hello Incubator IPMC,
Please vote on whether or not to release ManifoldCF 0.4-incubating,
RC2.
With Tommaso's and Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We still need one
more binding IPMC vote for this subpackage.
Karl
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili
tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Tommaso
2011/12/29 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Sorry - you can find the proposed
We need one more binding IPMC vote for this sub-package. Any takers?
Karl
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili
tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Tommaso
2011/12/29 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Sorry - you can find the proposed release package at:
One more binding vote needed for this subpackage. Please somebody vote!
Karl
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tommaso Teofili
tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
Tommaso
2011/12/29 Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
Hello incubator,
We've decided to release some of the ManifoldCF server or
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
I hate the fact that these discussions continue to happen in a vacuum
devoid of any grasp of the reality that mentors typically don't do
a fucking thing for their podlings. No they don't discuss reports
on list, nor
It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
without any changes taking place. That some of you doubt we even have a
problem here is the sad part of the state of the incubator.
- Original Message -
From: ant elder antel...@apache.org
To:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
without any changes taking place. That some of you doubt we even have a
problem here is
+1
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:07 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 January 2012 06:09, Eric Yang eric...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Chukwa 0.5.0 is ready for release. This will be the first incubator
release for Chukwa.
The source tarball artifact is available at:
Ross Gardler wrote on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 20:33:22 +:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
without any changes taking
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
without any changes taking place.
What changes would you like to see?
Even if we did require all mentors to sign the reports to indicate
they're
+1 (binding)
Checksum and signature match, verifications from previous RCs hold b/c
only NOTICE and LICENSE have changed. -C
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Eric Yang eric...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Chukwa 0.5.0 is ready for release. This will be the first incubator
release for Chukwa.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, ant elder antel...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It IS lame because we've been beating that dead horse for over a year now
without any changes taking place.
What changes would you like to see?
I
And here we return to a thread of some weeks ago. One chair can't
review all those reports and push the bounce buttons. Some other
people have to step up to help.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, ant elder
I read them. I'm also in favor of Daniel's suggestion to have a smaller,
trimmer IPMC. Me and Christian suggested that as well I believe or at
least I did (although my small number was something like 30) or something,
but that's a heck of a lot less than we have now on the IPMC.
Cheers,
Chris
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
And here we return to a thread of some weeks ago. One chair can't
review all those reports and push the bounce buttons. Some other
people have to step up to help.
This Board member reads each and every one of them
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
And here we return to a thread of some weeks ago. One chair can't
review all those reports and push the bounce buttons. Some other
people
Thank you Sam.
Re Cordova: no idea why this has not been submitted. It had been written by
a community member and commented by myself and Jukka on the Dev list in
plenty of time. Jukka already raised this issue on the Dev list prior to
your mail here. Conclusion, new project learning the ropes.
Re: Cordova was completely my fault. I think after writing it and
getting some quick consensus/approval my brain mistakenly filed it as
done. Won't happen again!
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
Thank you Sam.
Re Cordova: no idea why this has not
Hi,
Does not having the report forwarded imply being pushed out of the
incubator? As far as I can tell, the point being made was that there was
nothing going on in the project, and so nothing should be reported - I'll leave
Benson to clarify.
I'll back up what Ant said - Robert and
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote:
Hi,
Does not having the report forwarded imply being pushed out of the
incubator? As far as I can tell, the point being made was that there was
nothing going on in the project, and so nothing should be reported
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote:
Hi,
Does not having the report forwarded imply being pushed out of the
incubator? As far as I can tell, the point being made was that there was
nothing going on in the project, and so nothing should be reported
On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
-1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:
Celix
A plan is being discussed on the list, but did not make it into this month's
report. I would kindly like to ask
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote:
Hi,
Does not having the report forwarded imply being pushed out of the
incubator? As far as I can tell, the point being made was that there
As with most things in life, things need a kick from time to time.
What about collecting a nice list of 'what's the monthly report thingy about'
which explains that it's not just filed unread but is pretty important.
Plus again explain what information the board likes to get and that it's not
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
-1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:
Celix
A plan is being discussed on
On 1/11/2012 6:02 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
-1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:
Celix
A plan is being discussed on the list, but did not make it into
On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
-1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
a year old and lacking crisp plan for
On Jan 12, 2012, at 1:11 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 1/11/2012 6:02 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote:
On Jan 11, 2012, at 23:49 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
-1 for forwarding no the following reports from projects that are over
a year old and lacking crisp plan for graduatuation:
Celix
A plan
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Marcel Offermans
marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote:
The only point I was trying to make is that, as soon as discussions here were
going in a direction where podlings over a year old should start coming up
with a more concrete plan for graduation, I started
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
With Jukka's vote, that's 2 down. We need one more...
... which highlights the fact that we need one more mentor for the
project. Tommaso and I are currently more or less actively mentoring
the project, while Gianugo
Hi,
With 3 binding IPMC votes, this vote has passed. The following IPMC members
voted with a +1 on this release
Nick Burch
Chris Mattmann
Christian Grobmeier
We will work on releasing ODF Toolkit 0.5. Thank you everyone who worked in
this
release !
Thanks,
Devin
Hi all,
The Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating RC7 ballot has ended. We have
received 4 IPMC +1 votes (plus an additional 4 PPMC +1 votes)
during the release voting on dev and general. The vote passed!
Results:
From IPMC members:
name apache id
+1 Yegor
Apparently Benson feels that it is unreasonable to expect at
least one Incubator PMC member to actually read the one report
that this PMC sends on. Yes, I'm irritated.
To be clear, *I* read every word of every Board report that we send on. I
don't take issue with whatever else you wrote. I
Yes, congratulations!
On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Devin Han wrote:
Hi all,
The Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating RC7 ballot has ended. We have
received 4 IPMC +1 votes (plus an additional 4 PPMC +1 votes)
during the release voting on dev and general. The vote passed!
Results:
From
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
The ASF is not about code; it is about community. If a community forks,
or otherwise emerges around a codebase, we are not accepting the CODE: we
are accepting the COMMUNITY.
One company is not a community.
As you've otherwise acknowledged, I
Joe Schaefer wrote:
Let's stop discussing this issue in the abstract
Good idea. Lets be more specific, and put together something actionable.
Now lets look at the remainder- several projects with no report whatsoever
This has been an issue. Perhaps we need to put some teeth in the
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 00:33, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
Now lets look at the remainder- several projects with no report whatsoever
This has been an issue. Perhaps we need to put some teeth in the
requirement, such as closing down commit access until reports are posted?
A number of substantive issues came up during the past month.
First, and although it was raised on the private list and therefore details
won't be part of the public report, we advise the Board that there is
substantial discussion regarding changing the Incubator VP, which has been
held for
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Franklin, Matthew B.
mfrank...@mitre.org wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:nic...@hedhman.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:25 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
I
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 01:09, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Below are podling reports. Sam Ruby has already reviewed the original list
prior to posting, and requested that specific posts not be provided to the
Board, as he was unhappy with their status:
Kato: has been in limbo for years due
On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
-
Any23
...
Yes, all of the code has been ported from Google Code to the ASF.
Thanks to Daniel Shahaf and Michele Mostarda for leading the
charge here.
To clarify: I'm not a
On 1/11/2012 11:54 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012, at 00:33, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote:
Now lets look at the remainder- several projects with no report whatsoever
This has been an issue. Perhaps we need to put some teeth in the
requirement, such as closing
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 22:35, Luciano Resende wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Franklin, Matthew B.
mfrank...@mitre.org wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:nic...@hedhman.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 11:25 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe
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