Re: [BUILD] Cómo compilar en Windows (era: [TRADUCCION] Builds para QA de la traducción)

2012-04-03 Thread Juan C. Sanz
El 03/04/2012 0:50, Ariel Constenla-Haile escribió: Si quieres una mano para pasar la etapa de ./configure al menos, podemos arreglar un horario para guiarte por el canal de irc. Muchas gracias, ya he conseguido pasar ese punto (todos los errores se debían a que me faltaba un \ en la primer

Re: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Jena podling from Apache Incubator to be a top level project. +1, binding, mentor cheers! - Leo (doing a little celebration dance)

Re: [VOTE] Release Jena LARQ 1.0.0-incubating

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Paolo Castagna castagna.li...@googlemail.com wrote: here is a vote on a release for Apache Jena LARQ module: jena-larq-1.0.0-incubating. ... Proposed files and structure to merge with existing dist/ area:

Re: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-03 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Jena podling from Apache Incubator to be a top level project. [x] +1 Recommend to the ASF Board that Apache Jena Proposal       is ready to graduate to being a top level

RE: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project

2012-04-03 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
+1. Congrats -Original Message- From: Andy Seaborne [mailto:andy.seaborne.apa...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Andy Seaborne Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 5:11 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [IMPC] [VOTE] Graduate Apache Jena as a Top Level Project This is a call for vote to

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
(dropped infra@) On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset. Me too. Personally, I have no objection to including mutant

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
Looking into ManifoldCF a bit, I think what you need is * buildable source release that contains all the source for ManifoldCF * source release that contains all the custom patches for the dependencies that need patches Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which contains the

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which contains the upstream patches), plus a lib release, which is to be overlaid on the source release to allow it to build. I wouldn't call it strongly, rather

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which contains the upstream patches), plus a lib release, which is to be overlaid on

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which contains

[IP-CLEARANCE] Redback project sources import in Apache Archiva

2012-04-03 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hello, You will find here [1] an ip clearance for importing Redback project sources in the Apache Archiva project. As ip clearance is based on lazy consensus, if no objections sources will be imported in 72H. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy Talend: http://coders.talend.com http://twitter.com/olamy |

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
It sounds like I wasn't clear enough. The proposal is for the following release artifacts: (1) A source-only tar (2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar (3) A binary tar This is instead of: (1) A source-only tar (2) A binary dependencies convenience tar (3) A binary tar Hope that

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Leo Simons
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like I wasn't clear enough. The proposal is for the following release artifacts: (1) A source-only tar (2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar (3) A binary tar This is instead of: (1) A source-only

CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Brian McCallister
I don't remember seeing anything about a CloudStack project, is there something I missed? http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2323072 -Brian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Pid
On 03/04/2012 16:46, Brian McCallister wrote: I don't remember seeing anything about a CloudStack project, is there something I missed? http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2323072 I was just about to ask the same thing... p -- [key:62590808] signature.asc

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Nóirín Plunkett
See Jim's email (subject CloudStack) of an hour ago. N On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Brian McCallister bri...@skife.org wrote: I don't remember seeing anything about a CloudStack project, is there something I missed? http://www.citrix.com/English/NE/news/news.asp?newsID=2323072 -Brian

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Quoting: ...will become the first cloud platform in the industry to be submitted to the Apache Software Foundation http://www.apache.org/,... They mentioned that it is to be submitted The title is misleading, I am not sure if that is a problem ? Is it ? On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Nóirín

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Pid
On 03/04/2012 16:47, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: See Jim's email (subject CloudStack) of an hour ago. Which list did that go to? I don't see it in my Incubator mail. p On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Brian McCallister bri...@skife.org wrote: I don't remember seeing anything about a CloudStack

RE: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Hi All, thanks for the interest in CloudStack. I'm working on the wiki page at this moment. I'll send out a proposal notice later today. -kevin -Original Message- From: Nóirín Plunkett [mailto:noi...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:48 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Kevin Kluge kevin.kl...@citrix.com wrote: Hi All, thanks for the interest in CloudStack. I'm working on the wiki page at this moment. I'll send out a proposal notice later today. Then hurry up, cause we are looking forward to it ;) -kevin -Original

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Donald Whytock
From the article: CloudStack brings to Apache more than 30,000 community members, thousands of certified apps, and hundreds of production clouds. And to think, people were worried about OpenOffice... Don - To unsubscribe,

Re: CloudStack?

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Stroucken
Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Quoting: ...will become the first cloud platform in the industry to be submitted to the Apache Software Foundation http://www.apache.org/,... They mentioned that it is to be submitted The title is misleading, I am not sure if that is a problem ? It's also

CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
All, Please review: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CloudStackProposal The info that this was on its way kinda leaked out before all was ready, but in the grand-scheme of things, with so many moving parts and players, I think it went well. Needless to say, it also proves, once again,

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Hope that helps... The question is, will Roy (or anyone else) be unwilling to vote for the first option? Having been one of the people that commented and started the thread, I feel like I was wearing loose clothing while operating machinery, per Roy's guidance on the source being the thing

[PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Hi All, We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator functions and a web UI for user and administrator access. Administrators

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well. I have gotten extremely confusing advice in this area in the past, and the available documentation does not help. I believe I am adhering to Roy's principles, but before we spin another release candidate, I'd like it very

Re: Is there an ASF license for Apple's Apple Developer Program ?

2012-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/31/2012 8:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: There isn't (to my knowledge), I can imagine an increasing number of projects wanting such a thing though. Unless someone tells me I'm wrong and we already have one would

Re: Is there an ASF license for Apple's Apple Developer Program ?

2012-04-03 Thread dsh
+1 Cheers Daniel On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 3/31/2012 8:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: There isn't (to my knowledge), I can imagine an increasing number of

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
On 03.04.2012 19:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Now let's see who complains and says we're fragmenting the cloud community or whatever... Where's Simon? :) Please, as far as I know the community situation regarding CloudStack seems to be very different from the one concerning LibreOffice and

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Greg Stein
It was a joke. Let it go... On Apr 3, 2012 1:57 PM, Andreas Kuckartz a.kucka...@ping.de wrote: On 03.04.2012 19:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Now let's see who complains and says we're fragmenting the cloud community or whatever... Where's Simon? :) Please, as far as I know the community

RE: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
-Original Message- From: Karl Wright [mailto:daddy...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:24 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Question about downloading binaries Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well. I have gotten extremely

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Donald Whytock
Regarding the section Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan...What do the patents cover/restrict? Is a patent even compatible with ALv2? Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Apr 3, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: On 03.04.2012 19:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Now let's see who complains and says we're fragmenting the cloud community or whatever... Where's Simon? :) Please, as far as I know the community situation regarding CloudStack seems to be very

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
Are there still requirements for the source tree in SVN, as far as having applicable LICENSE and NOTICE files there? My understanding is then that the source LICENSE and NOTICE files must reside at the root level in the SVN tree - which implies that the binary tar/zip build CANNOT be built from

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Plan...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even compatible with ALv2? Speaking only for myself, Section 3 of ALv2 seems to address patents held by contributors. Or am I misunderstanding the concern around

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote: Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke. One I do not find funny at all. And 2ndly, people could complain that we should refuse the donation and force them to put all their code/energies into OpenStack... CloudStack and OpenStack seem to be

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley da...@cloudstack.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Plan...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even compatible with ALv2? Speaking only for myself, Section 3 of ALv2 seems to address

Re: Question about downloading binaries

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Wright
Ok, you can now browse each different build artifact's license, notice, and readme file at: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/trunk/[README.txt,NOTICE.txt,LICENSE.txt] - source https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/trunk/lib-license/[README.txt,NOTICE.txt,LICENSE.txt] - lib

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Joe Schaefer
Patent law isn't the same as Copyright law- the idea that you can do anything you want with patents covered by Apache Licensed code will only wind up getting you sued someday (IANAL). Do consult a lawyer if you need advice on how any particular patent may be implemented outside of code received

[INFRA] Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Dave Fisher
I'll note the request to move over websites. There are three to discuss. - cloudstack.org - This site has a login. There may be the impact of supporting a set of user registrations. How many users? Are user registrations important? - docs.cloudbase.org - This site uses MindTouch TCS[1] Is this

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: On 03.04.2012 20:10, Jim Jagielski wrote: Oh come on... 1st of all, it's a joke. One I do not find funny at all. You should have. It was funny. Maybe you need a funny bone transplant? And 2ndly, people could complain that we should

Funny POSSCON anecdote

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
Scott McNealy did his keynote on a Mac running an old version of OOo. He complained in his talk that OOo was abandoned (obv not aware of the recent history of LO and AOOo) after a slide he was trying to present didn't render right. Out of the audience I said that we were giving love to OOo and

RE: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Minor nit: In economic terms, Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are not complementary. - Dennis In computing, an example of complements are hardware and software. Software vendors want the hardware to be free (more for us!) and hardware vendors want the software to be free (more for us!).

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Brett Porter
Hi Kevin, On 04/04/2012, at 3:17 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: Hi All, We would like to propose CloudStack to be an Apache Incubator project. CloudStack provides control plane software that can be used to create an IaaS cloud. It includes an HTTP-based API for user and administrator functions

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Thanks, Brett. We appreciate your help. -kevin -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:28 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator Hi Kevin,

Re: [INFRA] Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
Inline reply Please don't take my answers as binding, just trying to provide a bit more information. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I'll note the request to move over websites. There are three to discuss. - cloudstack.org - This site has a login. There

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, David Nalley da...@cloudstack.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Plan...What do the patents cover/restrict?  Is a patent even compatible

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Kevin Kluge kevin.kl...@citrix.com wrote: Thanks, Brett. We appreciate your help. -kevin -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:28 PM To:

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.orgwrote: Minor nit: In economic terms, Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are not complementary. - Dennis In computing, an example of complements are hardware and software. Software vendors want the hardware to be

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 21:37, David Nalley da...@cloudstack.org wrote: ... For better or worse I don't perceive ASF having the desire to or currently the ability to deal with filing for patents, or even if they would be entitled to in this situation. I'm not sure that we have a *specific*

[VOTE] Release MRUnit version 0.9.0-incubating

2012-04-03 Thread Brock Noland
This is an incubator release for Apache MRUnit, version 0.9.0-incubating. It fixes the following issues: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12311292version=12316360 *** Please download, test and vote by [3 working days after sending]. Note that we are voting upon

RE: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Kevin Kluge
Citrix is pursuing patents based on prior CloudStack work and expects to continue to do so in the future. Citrix is getting these patents to protect the CloudStack user community. Consider the case where some other entity states that the use of CloudStack is infringing on their patents.