This still only has 3 committers.
How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't see
that there has been a realistic answer to this question.
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez okramma...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last 2 weeks,
On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
This still only has 3 committers.
How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't see
that there has been a realistic answer to this question.
It is part of the incubation process to help
+1 binding
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
From the conversation with Marko, he intended to submit this as a formal
vote, but didn't use the regular voting template.
Voting will remain open until at least January 15, 2015 18:00
+0 then
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au
wrote:
On 10 Jan 2015, at 6:18 am, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
This still only has 3 committers.
How is the project going to function with such a small group? I don't
see that there has
The temperature of this might be reduced by replacing, 'no one knows what
the Apache Way is' with 'a lot of us have trouble translate it into
practical decisions in a repeatable fashion.' Or not.
As reported here, we have performed multiple experiments in which multiple
members, directors, and
Maybe it's about perception. Most organisations have a culture that has at
least some degree of interpretation. If you want something clear cut and
defined in such a way as to have no scope for interpretation you lose
flexibility. Even the law gets interpretation. So perhaps its just a matter
of
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
And I think that someone who is an ASF member who claims that
the Apache Way is completely unknown and nebulous and that
there is no clear understanding of what the Apache Way is, well
I think that's a big problem as well.
Please tell me where the examples you give diverge or conflict?
On Jan 9, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
And I think that someone who is an ASF member who claims that
the Apache Way is
-1 (binding)
Besides the findings already reported by Justin Mclean in addition I noticed:
- binary artifacts, including the -sources and -javadoc jars, do not contain the
required DISCLAIMER file alongside the NOTICE and LICENSE files
I also encountered build test failures.
For the next
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
...I think the IPMC is doing almost all of the above better. Everything
except for Failed. I think that
now we are blaming the mentor. Let's get over it. Not every podling will
work
That's distinct concerns IMO:
Enthusiastically +1 to welcome TinkerPop to the Incubator.
On 01/09/2015 11:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last 2 weeks, TinkerPop's proposal has been worked on with
support from:
* David Nalley (champion)
* Rich Bowen (mentor)
* Hadrian Zbarcea (mentor)
* Daniel Gruno
+1 Doug.
-Original Message-
From: Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Friday, January 9, 2015 at 9:05 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: What is The Apache Way?
On Fri, Jan
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:41 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
Can a project use an external bug tracker?
Can a project use a third-parties CI system?
Can a project host their website outside of the ASF?
Can a project avoid a users mailing list and move to StackOverflow?
Can projects use
+1, I'll repeat one a little my previous mail and say patches welcome (as
long as they keep the document simple - remember, it's a signpost document not
a discussion or detail document - the discussion/detail documents should be
linked from this one).
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
The temperature of this might be reduced by replacing, 'no one knows what
the Apache Way is' with 'a lot of us have trouble translate it into
practical decisions in a repeatable fashion.' Or not.
As reported here,
Thanks Roman.
On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
wrote:
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
wrote:
One extra thing to note, that while we can *start* this comittee as
dedicated
to Incubating projects, it will be a very
+1
From the conversation with Marko, he intended to submit this as a
formal vote, but didn't use the regular voting template.
Voting will remain open until at least January 15, 2015 18:00 ET.
Cheers,
Hadrian
On 01/09/2015 11:35 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last 2
On Jan 9, 2015, at 1:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
...I think the IPMC is doing almost all of the above better. Everything
except for Failed. I think that
now we are blaming the mentor. Let's get over it. Not every
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
So, either a lot of us are really stupid, or the Foundation as a whole has
a gap between the general principles and their application. No, we can't
have a rule book that details every particle of how to run an Apache
As mention in a previous thread, all the particulars of what
encompasses the Apache Way was learned from years of experience,
based on learning what works and what doesn't, usually after
some painful semi-disasters. They don't exist because we love
process nor are they something a bunch of
On Jan 9, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 01/09/2015 02:03 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Another way to look at the Apache Way is as a musical composition.
Sure, it was written for a specific arrangement, but sometimes
it's played as a jazz piece, other-times as a
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 9, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Jan 9, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
On 01/09/2015 02:03 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Another way to look at the Apache Way is as a musical composition.
Sure, it was
On 01/09/2015 02:03 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Another way to look at the Apache Way is as a musical composition.
Sure, it was written for a specific arrangement, but sometimes
it's played as a jazz piece, other-times as a classical, or maybe
with a blues flavor. But it is always (or*should be*)
Hi.
Dave has volunteered to help mentoring our project, the PPMC was all in
favor for accepting the offer.
rgds
jan i
The Apache Johnzon PPMC has voted to release Apache Johnzon
0.5-incubating based on
the release candidate described below. Now it is the IPMC's turn to vote.
Git commit for the release is [a88f797]
What is The Apache Way? No one can say.
There is no bounded set of expectations that an Apache project must fulfill.
Where do Apache's official policies begin and end? Which best practices
must be mastered? What will be enforced, what will be ignored?
Every last podling graduates
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
What is The Apache Way? No one can say.
There is no bounded set of expectations that an Apache project must fulfill.
Where do Apache's official policies begin and end? Which best practices
must be mastered? What will
On Jan 9, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
What is The Apache Way? No one can say.
There is no bounded set of expectations that an Apache project must fulfill.
Where do Apache's
And fwiw, maybe the reason directors are chosen to
represent members is because they *do* understand what
the Apache Way is...
Personally, I'm shocked, saddened and disappointed that
this conversation is even happening, since it really
clearly shows the depth of the dysfunction.
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