Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Recommend Apache Rya graduation to Top Level Project resolution to the Board

2019-09-13 Thread Dave Fisher
All the best in your Apache journey! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Adina Crainiceanu wrote: > > The vote to recommend Apache Rya graduation to Top Level Project resolution > to the board has passed with: > > 9 binding +1 votes: > > Billie Rinaldi > Josh

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ECharts (incubating) 4.3.0 (release candidate 2)

2019-09-12 Thread Dave Fisher
12, 2019, at 6:42 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Inline > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 12, 2019, at 3:18 AM, SHUANG SU wrote: >> >> Justin & Furkan, thank you for the detailed check! >> >> There is a relevant build instruction in >> h

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ECharts (incubating) 4.3.0 (release candidate 2)

2019-09-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Inline Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2019, at 3:18 AM, SHUANG SU wrote: > > Justin & Furkan, thank you for the detailed check! > > There is a relevant build instruction in > https://echarts.apache.org/en/tutorial.html#Create%20Custom%20Build%20of%20ECharts > and the link is listed in

Re: Incubator Clutch Analysis Job failed

2019-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
gt; Since the build was broken I'm not sure what I'm looking at right now > unfortunately. > >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 21:20 Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Look at incubator.apache.org/clutch/tamaya.html >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 10, 201

Re: Incubator Clutch Analysis Job failed

2019-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
planning to handle projects like Tamaya with > multiple git repos? I put a link to the query on github that shows you all > of their repos. > > John > >> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 8:32 PM Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Hi - >> >> All fixed. >> >&

Re: Incubator Clutch Analysis Job failed

2019-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
training: urlWww=http://training.incubator.apache.org/ > tuweni: urlWww=http://tuweni.apache.org/ > tvm: urlWww=http://tvm.incubator.apache.org/ > weex: urlWww=http://weex.incubator.apache.org/ > ``` > > - Sijie > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 4:13 PM Dave Fisher wrote: &g

Re: Incubator Clutch Analysis Job failed

2019-09-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Thanks for fixing the problem with Rya’s status page. I’m not sure what is happening with this error. It works on python 3.7.3 but not on the build bot. If at ACNA and will talk directly with Infra and/or figure out whatever the error is. Thanks, Dave > On Sep 10, 2019, at 3:29 PM,

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.2

2019-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Carrying over +1 (binding) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2019, at 9:37 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > Hi all, > The Tuweni community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Apache > Tuweni 0.8.2. > > Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and we would now > like

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaObjects for Apache Incubator

2019-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
HI > On Sep 5, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Nygard, Carl J wrote: > Hi, > >>> Cengage wishes to donate the code to Apache, but is unable to do so until >>> the project is accepted as an Incubator project. > >> Could you expand a little on why is that? > > Perhaps it is an issue of understanding the

Re: Incubator podling reports due today

2019-09-04 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Sep 4, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Thursday morning here and still to report are: > Amaterasu* > Hivemall > Iceberg > Marvin-AI > Omid** > SINGA > Superset > Tamaya* > Taverna > Tephra > Warble Warble just reported…. > > * did not report last month. > > A

Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache SINGA (incubating) as a TLP

2019-08-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I see the discussion that an SGA is not needed about 4/2/2015. [1] I don’t necessarily see the there was a conclusion to that discussion on private@singa. I certainly don’t see anything related to Singapore in the grants index in the foundation records. There are plenty of other sgas

Re: Podling's Shark Tank update

2019-08-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - As one of the mentors to Daffodil I hope to be there. FYI - The only thing that prevents Daffodil’s graduation is community growth. This is not a criticism of the podling. They are attempting to grow the community. This really fills an important capability of applying schemas to any file

Re: How to update status page after podling status file changed?

2019-08-30 Thread Dave Fisher
The Jenkins jobs that update the incubator projects and project status pages run every 24 hours at end of day at roughly 19:00 PDT. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2019, at 2:18 AM, Sheng Wu wrote: > > I am just curious whether this is manual way :) > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >

Re: [MENTORS] Mentor guidance document

2019-08-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Sorry for my top post, but I have some observations about your “guide”. (1) It is more a mentoring FAQ than a guide. (2) You are listing symptoms / policy violations. (3) It would be better to discuss what community problem is causing the particular issue instead of putting the blame on

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) v2.0.2

2019-08-19 Thread Dave Fisher
You have enough IPMC votes from your mentors. I think you are good. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Joshua Poore wrote: > > Hi Folks— > > Just a reminder to VOTE on Apache Flagon UserALE.js (Incubating) v2.0.2. > > We’ve passed the VOTE on dev@, still looking for a few

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyScheduler incubator proposal

2019-08-18 Thread Dave Fisher
; according to ASF Committer list[1], he has been a member of IPMC > > > [1] http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?uid=djkevincr > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Apache SkyWalking, Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating), Zipkin > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > Dave Fisher 于2

Re: [DISCUSS] EasyScheduler incubator proposal

2019-08-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Kevin, Since you a member all you need do to join the IPMC is to send an email to private@ requesting to be added. Regards, Dave > On Aug 18, 2019, at 3:42 AM, Kevin Ratnasekera wrote: > > Hi Sheng, > > If there is space and help is needed, I am interested in mentoring the > project. Even

Re: Wrong website link for GIT self-service

2019-08-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Feel free to submit a PR to https://github.com/apache/incubator/blob/master/pages/guides/podling_sourcecontrol.ad Regards, Dave > On Aug 15, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Marco de Abreu wrote: > > Hi, > > I stumbled across this [1] guide and noticed that the link [2] is broken. > The correct one

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-15 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:59 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019, 22:31 David Nalley wrote: >> ... > >> Greg - I propose that you, Ross (sorry for volunteering you), and I >> pick an incubating project in need of mentor attention and make this >> as streamlined as we can. Let's

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
>> >> Q: Does the IPMC want to produce non-ASF releases? My answer is yes! I want podlings to be on a path towards graduation! I recognize multiple requirements. The path may differ for each podling. I’m the end there are two outcomes! Thanks Greg! Regards, Dave >> >> -g > > >

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:17 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> Hoops constructed by the IPMC. Like a secondary release vote on general@ >> >> This is because of ASF bylaws i.e only PMC votes are binding on

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
that change? > > Every other change is peripheral. > > > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:37 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > >> >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:10 AM Da

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:10 AM Dave Fisher <mailto:w...@apache.org>> wrote: > >> >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:

Re: [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache Druid graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) Regarding: QU30: See https://www.apache.org/security/ and https://www.apache.org/security/committers.html https://druid.apache.org/druid-powered is impressive. Regards, Dave > On Aug 13, 2019, at 12:03 AM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > The Apache Druid community has recently

Re: [DISCUSS] Drop requirement that ASF members can join IPMC by just asking

2019-08-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2019, at 2:39 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > I think there's a couple of misconceptions in this thread. First off > currently you can join the IPMC two ways by being an ASF member and asking to > join, the other by being voted in. On average the

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Druid (incubating) as a TLP

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I’ve been following as a member of the brand committee and have no concern about Druid graduation at this time. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:12 PM, Gian Merlino wrote: > > FYI- we gave the board a heads up too and received generally positive > feedback. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Drop requirement that ASF members can join IPMC by just asking

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:26 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> I will also note that if the IPMC switches to *voting* Members into the >>> IPMC, that the Apache Member will be observing that vote take place on >>> private@

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 9:24 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> >> >>> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> ... "The Apache Podling Foo has voted on releasing Foo 1.2.2 (url and pointers here). We have 3 (or more)

Re: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:41 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > This observer IPMC role sounds interesting. That would make it less > intimidating for people who can help verify a generic release but are > unfamiliar with the domain itself. We currently have Shepherds to look into podlings at

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Aug 12, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Julian Feinauer > wrote: > > Hi Ted, > > dont get me wrong, I'm rather new to the ASF, the incubator and especially > the IPMC. So my perspective might be different. But, I understand the > frustration that some may have and I leant that there have been

Re: Business decisions and risk (was: [DISCUSS] IPMC votes on releases)

2019-08-12 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > >> On Aug 12, 2019, at 10:44 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:20 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >>> ... >>> This does NOT mean that the IPMC should be gatekeepers though... Just as >>> PMC chairs are the "eyes

Re: Apache DLAB Issue Tracker - Clutch

2019-08-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Furkan, The clutch is looking at the Podling’s status xml and for DLab there is an incorrect id attribute for the tracker url: Change: https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/DLAB/;>https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/DLAB/ To:

Re: Incubator policy wording

2019-07-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, A couple of suggested edits to the responsibilities: - Welcoming new Podlings to become part of the Apache Software Foundation (ASF). - Guiding Podlings to govern and grow their communities according to *the Apache Way*, the ASF's philosophy and guidelines for collaborative

Re: [VOTE] Heron Release 0.20.1-incubating Release Candidate 3

2019-07-24 Thread Dave Fisher
have one vote in. We request > the Incubator PMC members to review and vote on this incubator > release. > > The results of the Release Candidate 3 votes are below: > > - Binded Approvals: 1 > > * Dave Fisher > > - Vote Thread > > https://mail-archives.apac

Re: [incubator] branch master updated: Make the automated publishing info more prominent

2019-07-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Thank you Bertrand. Regards, Dave > On Jul 22, 2019, at 7:18 AM, bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: > > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository. > > bdelacretaz pushed a commit to branch master > in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator.git > > > The

Re: Board@ subscriptions

2019-07-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Only VPs of TLPs need to subscribe. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2019, at 9:37 AM, Tom Barber wrote: > > Hello > > Quick protocol question as the board isn’t fit for purpose and I’m fed up > of it clogging up my inbox. Do incubating project chairs for incubating > projects have to be

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-20 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:39 AM Justin Mclean >> wrote: >> ...I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]... > > Basically just adding this, right? > >> Some of the project releases may not

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > >> +1 if as discussed earlier we enhance both disclaimers to include a link to >> the podling status page where the podling will provide the most up to date >> details. > > I think the text needs to refer

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-12 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 if as discussed earlier we enhance both disclaimers to include a link to the podling status page where the podling will provide the most up to date details. We can discuss a new Git based status page in a separate thread. I’d like to change from the xml/secret yaml files in svn to a straight

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Daffodil (incubating) 2.4.0-rc1

2019-07-08 Thread Dave Fisher
in git with v2.4.0-rc1. > > For reference, here is a list of all closed JIRAs tagged with 2.4.0: > > https://s.apache.org/daffodil-issues-2.4.0 > > For a summary of the changes in this release, see: > > https://daffodil.apache.org/releases/2.4.0/ > > One +1 (binding

Re: [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to the board

2019-07-08 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) I’ve reviewed the Maturity Model, recent activity, and the large number of repositories(51) vs. released artifacts (21) [1][2] I wanted to note two things: - In looking at contributing [2] I notice that there is a higher bar than many projects in requiring an ICLA. Given the large

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenWhisk Catalog (v0.10.0-incubating, rc1)

2019-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Various podlings including tuweni have had to handle downloading gradle separately. It’s not unusual and not really a source code issue where the correct boundary is drawn. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:42 PM, Rodric Rabbah wrote: > > We’ll sort it out I opened an

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Alex Harui wrote on Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:35 +: >> Re-rolling required re-GPG-signing, new hashes, etc. > > Yes, I know how re-rolling works. I've RM'd things before. I still think > in-band is better. It

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 3, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: 1. Podlings, and PPMC members, to enjoy the legal protection of the

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:29 PM Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dave Fisher wrot

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 12:17 PM Dave Fisher wrote: >>> On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:28 AM Dave Fisher wrote: >>>>

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
+1. > On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Guys, aren't you forgetting something? The VP is to sign the Board > report. Everything else that Justin is doing he's doing as a rank and > file Incubator committer. If you disagree with Justin, that's one > thing, but his being

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > > >> On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:28 AM Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> Hi - >>> >>>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:30 A

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-03 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:28 AM Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Hi - >> >>> On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
All we need is a simple pivot back. This is the closest, easiest path. Prioritize and ease the acceptance of the Apache Way. Our current Disclaimer is enough. If governing in the way then the path to a PMC is eased. We need to assure that the lessons from all versions of the Incubator are

Re: New Project?

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - To me you have two parts. One fits Apache and the other would need to be outside. (1) Open Source Software which is the library, service and CLI tools. This is something that an Apache Community could grow around and be governed in the Apache Way. This part can be incubated. (2) Open

Re: New disclaimer text

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Jul 1, 2019, at 1:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:39 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: >> ...I put up suggested text changes for an incubator disclaimer here [1]... > > Basically just adding this, right? > >> Some of the project

Re: Re: [Discuss] Graduate Apache OpenWhisk (incubating) as a TLP

2019-07-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - LGTM! Some comments inline: > On Jul 2, 2019, at 8:42 AM, David P Grove wrote: > > Justin Mclean wrote on 07/02/2019 05:53:06 AM: >> >> There were a couple of minor issue around branding. communication >> and releases brought up in the discussion on graduation, I believe >> most (if

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher
You have your 3 +1 Votes! We can discuss messaging on dev@tuweni > On Jun 27, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote: > > I’m not quite sure what to do. If I don’t hear by tomorrow I’ll close this > vote as passing. > >> On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jun 27,

[jira] [Commented] (INCUBATOR-240) Setup initial redirect landing page at datasketches.apache.org

2019-06-27 Thread Dave Fisher (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-240?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16874279#comment-16874279 ] Dave Fisher commented on INCUBATOR-240: --- Lee, This should be an INFRA JIRA issue. Also

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > >> Going only by past experiences in the incubator, my understanding is that a >> graduation blocking issue is not something that necessarily blocks a >> podling release. > > And I was not stating that, nor

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni 0.8.0

2019-06-24 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) carried over from dev@tuweni Vote. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > +1 (binding) - carried over from PPMC vote > >> On Jun 24, 2019, at 6:03 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> The Tuweni community voted on and

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-23 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks Roman! +1 to the 2nd camp! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2019, at 8:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 3:31 PM Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> A couple of thoughts: > > And a couple of thoughts on top of that. > >> Podlings are not permitted to

Re: Podlings, the Incubator, relationships and Apache

2019-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
I find TVM concentrating on moving their community to Apache first to be very refreshing. I think that may allow an eyes wide open approach to Apache governance. I think a soft approach to policy compliance will yield better, happier Apache communities. The Incubator should celebrate the

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

2019-06-19 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jun 19, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:14 PM Ted Dunning wrote: >> ...This vote is *confirming* that >> nobody has objections (of any form) to Zipkin leaving and control of the >> git repos being transferred... > > I agree and this means

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-19 Thread Dave Fisher
on (1), when (3) via (2) is IMO more important. Maybe we need to reorder our curriculum? Regards, Dave > On Jun 19, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > You are certainly correct about this. I’ve been learning to cook the last few > years and have a c

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, You are certainly correct about this. I’ve been learning to cook the last few years and have a cupboard full of recipes to follow. I made a directory in the incubator git for us all to share our tools and recipes in the hopes that they are useful.

Re: overzealous bureaucracy (was: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin)

2019-06-19 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I agree with Greg and Bertrand to focusing on the Incubator's service orientation. And have written in other threads that we should update our documentation. A podling exit needs to be visible to the Incubator here on general@. (Jim’s clear trail) (1) In order to maintain a record about

Re: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin

2019-06-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi David and Greg, > On Jun 18, 2019, at 5:39 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > HI, > > +1 (binding) > > I hope the podling has better success outside the ASF. > > BTW in all previous cases of podlings exiting I could find, a vote was taken > (see below links and there’s more I’ve not listed).

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Dave Fisher
mire projects like Maven or >> TomEE and to want and aim to be like them, regardless of the contortions >> required to get there. >> >> Gj >> >> >> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 21:10, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >>> Hi - >>> >>> Here are some

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Apologies for replying twice in a row to the thread. > On Jun 18, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > Alex, Jim, Bertrand, > > This discussion is re-inventing a discussion that has been had before. At > one time, the incubator tried to present principles to incoming podling > (albeit not

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-18 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Jun 18, 2019, at 4:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: >> ...prepping the existing community regarding what "moving to the ASF means" >> is the job of the Champion, no?... > > I agree but it has to be based on written docs, not

Re: [VOTE] Zipkin leave incubator, return back to OpenZipkin

2019-06-17 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 Agree. Best of luck to the OpenZipkin community going forward. (Please make sure that RO clones of the repositories are kept by Infra for the record.) Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi > > This is a call for official vote of Zipkin

Re: Move the Zipkin repos back, as the community has voted to leave.

2019-06-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - A retirement VOTE on general@ is required. [1] This is the last formality required. Incubation is not for every project. Then follow [2] as much as possible, but with the exception of transferring the repositories back to OpenZipken. In addition the IPMC will request that INFRA make

Re: Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-17 Thread Dave Fisher
gt;> Spread out pretty thin with all the things I do for the ASF) to deal >>> with rebellious podlings. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Perhaps creating a training session as part of the trainin

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Greg, I agree. A pragmatic, incremental, trust in a community’s best intentions is all we should ask. To me the minimum requirements are: (1) License is AL v2. (2) Disclaimer is standard. I don’t want it to vary because then we’ll discuss correctness. (3) Signature. (4) Checksum. The rest

Re: LGPL dependency

2019-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - > On Jun 14, 2019, at 5:08 AM, York Shen wrote: > > It depends on the definition of optional dependency. Weex targets iOS, > Android and Browser environment and Webkit header files and shared library > are only bundled for Android environment. As for other environments, the OS > or

Re: LGPL dependency

2019-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Merle, A footnote on your list below. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2019, at 2:39 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > > I feel like the answers provided here up till now are too simple. I > believe we have projects at Apache which seem to be using, or have used > Webkit: ( >

Incubation Pain Points

2019-06-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Here are some thoughts I have to improving Incubation. These are not really new, but I think we should discuss where and how best to apply these. (1) Champions need to very clear that the ASF expects Community decisions not BDFLs. Burnout is one factor to highlight why community is

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - The ASF expects that PMCs will watch out for their project and product brands. The VP, Brand and their committee are available to help with advice and also trademark registrations via the tradema...@apache.org mailing list. My only concern with the README.md files in some Github project

Re: [DISCUSS] Release of Apache Training - Navigating the ASF Incubator Process 1.0 (incubating)

2019-06-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - This is very interesting. I’m going to be digging into it. Regards, Dave > On Jun 8, 2019, at 8:09 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Please keep the discussion here and not in the vote thread, > > Even if not voting, mentors and IPMC members may want to talk a look at the >

Re: [IMPORTANT] Board proposal on podling releases

2019-06-09 Thread Dave Fisher
Top Post. (1) We are losing track of the goal. The goal is to make it easier for incubating projects to begin to follow Foundation Release and Distribution Policies on their path to adopting the Apache Way, building a Community and graduating to become a TLP project. I think the IPMC has

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-07 Thread Dave Fisher
I have a question below. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 7, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Rodric Rabbah wrote: > > The PMC has individuals from 6 unrelated companies. I think committers add > another 2 unrelated companies/entities. We expect to welcome new committers > after graduation. > > -r > >> On

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Doris 0.10.0-incubating-rc02

2019-06-03 Thread Dave Fisher
FYI - On the Doris Dev list I’ve asked some questions about third party dependencies to clarify what is required vs. optional. I’ll note that there are some archives included in the release which are related to test cases. Under my opinion of what’s permissible on a first release I would

[jira] [Resolved] (INCUBATOR-238) Milagro has updated milagro.xml

2019-06-02 Thread Dave Fisher (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-238?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Dave Fisher resolved INCUBATOR-238. --- Resolution: Fixed The project xml files are processed and staged into git once a day from

Re: Podling releases and release policy

2019-05-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Kevin and Justin, This is spot on. Disclaimer, signatures/checksums, Apache license, and a start to notes are the minimum. Acceptance of issues to fix is also a requirement. Full compliance with Apache Release and Distribution Policies are some of our agreed Incubation requirements for

Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni (incubating) 0.7.0

2019-05-31 Thread Dave Fisher
Apologies for the delay. -1 (binding) Policy violations: The missing DISCLAIMER in the source release is a blocker. Please move https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/tuweni to https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/tuweni for the next candidate. I checked the signatures and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Druid (incubating) 0.14.2 [RC1]

2019-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
ntly, the thing to fix is not the release > cadence. > > This project is overdue to graduate; that, not the release cadence, is why > mentors are a bit burned out. > > Julian > > >> On May 21, 2019, at 6:05 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> I noticed a 0

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Druid (incubating) 0.14.2 [RC1]

2019-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
I noticed a 0 vote by a PPMC member saying the cadence is too frequent for a database product and thinking it may impact perceived stability. Just a data point. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > No. > > In my defense, Druid has produced

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, Please remove Dubbo since it graduated. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > You gave me four to shepherd again and missed Drew. > > Thanks, > Dave > >> On May 21, 2019,

Re: Generating + formatting the Board report from the website?

2019-05-21 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, You gave me four to shepherd again and missed Drew. Thanks, Dave > On May 21, 2019, at 4:49 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > It been suggested we use markdown for the incubator reports. I modified the > this months report [1] to have: > - a table of contents > - headings > -

Podling Status Event Dates - Re: Podling status Copyright section

2019-05-15 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I think that we are mixing together a few events in a podling's lifecycle. Since I published a plan to update the status process and am just about to implement I think we should discuss events in a modern way since much of the language is a decade or more old and we are each trying to

Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial codebase?

2019-05-13 Thread Dave Fisher
> On May 13, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote: > > Thanks for the detailed steps. > > (2) SGAs are typically needed when the project code is donated by a >> company, these go to secretary@. A CCLA might substitute for that, but >> that is up to legal-discuss@apache. Once the IP is

Re: How do I go about podling I.P. clearance for the initial codebase?

2019-05-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Kenneth, I’m sorry about the state of documentation. Let’s separate the ICLA requirement from the SGA question. (1) Each initial committer / PPMC member needs to have an ICLA on file with secretary@apache before their account is created. The mentors are responsible for tracking this and

Re: mod_pagespeed incubation page still blank

2019-05-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Rich, It has been disappointing that no progress has been made for so long. Do we need one more shot at mentoring or is it time to retire? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 13, 2019, at 10:33 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > Hi, folks. > > I'm not sure who to direct this to. > > The

Editing Podling Status Pages

2019-05-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - The subject came up in another list and I thought I would share the current state of editing of pooling status pages. I am currently working on improvements from within Whimsy, but since these are not done and I cannot predict when the work will be finished here you go: See:

Re: How to move code and docs from GitHub to GitHub

2019-05-10 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I would discuss this with Apache Infra. Either: join https://the-asf.slack.com - #asfinfra, or subscribe to us...@infra.apache.org and send an email. Regards, Dave > On May 10, 2019, at 12:08 PM, leerho wrote: > > I am in the process of trying to move code from our current GitHub >

Re: Incubator Proposal

2019-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - A few points about the Apache Software Foundation and Incubation. (1) Projects work best when they bring in both a small community of developers and a codebase. (2) Projects learn the Apache Way of project governance which includes releasing under the Apache License. Until you do have a

Re: General@ Moderation

2019-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher
a good avenue to pursue instead of rolling our own. They >> handle fundraising's moderation, for example as well as trademarks. >> >> Email mod-priv...@gsuite.cloud.apache.org if interested. >> >> I think we could create a moderation PMC and try and centralize this &

General@ Moderation

2019-05-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - It looks like we need two or three new volunteers to help moderate this mailing list. Many of the five moderators are not very active in the incubator at this time. (I’d volunteer, but I’m currently moderating some 22 lists…) Regards, Dave

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > On 5/7/2019 7:50 PM, Nick Kew wrote: >>> On 5 May 2019, at 23:21, Justin Mclean wrote: >>> >>> 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2019 >> Anyone else having trouble with that? >> >> I

Re: Draft Incubator report for May

2019-05-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - It seems that the report has been finalized. I had a comment in response to Justin’s notes regarding CDN testing for MxNet and ECharts. A third party provider is being used for these Anycast CDNs. Nothing to file for the ASF. Regards, Dave > On May 5, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Justin Mclean

Re: [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache Dubbo graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board

2019-05-05 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 (binding) > On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Huxing Zhang wrote: > > Hi All, > > After discussion in the Apache Dubbo community on the dev mailing > list[1], choosing PMC chair[2], forming the PMC members[3], completing > the maturity model[4], discussing the resolution proposal[5], and >

Re: Incubator (svn) website and clutch analysis published

2019-05-01 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - The gitbox directory at http://gitbox.apache.org/repositories.json stopped providing a commit count on April 26 or 27. I’ve commented this out. Everything should be back to normal now without that information on the clutch analysis pages. Regards, Dave > On May 1, 2019, at 6:34 AM, sebb

Re: Incubator (svn) website and clutch analysis published

2019-04-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Justin, I’ll take a look. It may be tomorrow. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 30, 2019, at 6:47 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > JFYI The clutch report is currently failing right at the end, not sure what > the issue is. > > FINAL: current: 50 > FINAL: date: Wed May 1

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