Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2007-01-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On 1/3/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/07, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/2/07, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lucene4c-commits does still exist, as do the rest of the lists for lucene4c, for that matter. I'd like to get rid of them though, so a

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2007-01-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 1/2/07, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lucene4c-commits does still exist, as do the rest of the lists for lucene4c, for that matter. I'd like to get rid of them though, so a consensus on where commits for those areas in svn should go would be nice to have. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2007-01-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On 1/3/07, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/2/07, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lucene4c-commits does still exist, as do the rest of the lists for lucene4c, for that matter. I'd like to get rid of them though, so a consensus on where commits for those areas in svn

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2007-01-02 Thread Henri Yandell
Agila's now on step 8 of http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings . Previous shutdown podlings have had different solutions: Axion - No issue, source didn't arrive. Depot - Made read only. Emails will still goto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucene4c - Remains read/write. Emails will still goto

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2007-01-02 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 1/2/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agila's now on step 8 of http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings . Previous shutdown podlings have had different solutions: Axion - No issue, source didn't arrive. Depot - Made read only. Emails will still goto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Retiring Agila?

2006-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
Anyone know what the status is for retiring the Agila podling? Do we need to vote? Does the website just need updating? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Retiring Agila?

2006-11-06 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, I'm not sure. Since the Jakarta PMC, which is the sponsoring PMC, has voted to retire Agila, I don't think the Incubator PMC needs an explicit voice, only a note that we concur... Yoav On 11/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know what the status is for retiring the Agila

Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2006-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
So how do we retire a project? My checklist so far is: * move Agila to the Retired section of the Incubator site, * inform -dev/-user mailing lists (earlier than the rest) * ask that the mailing lists be shutdown, * update the wiki, * update the website, * move the JIRA project to a Retired

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2006-11-06 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 11/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do we retire a project? My checklist so far is: * move Agila to the Retired section of the Incubator site, * inform -dev/-user mailing lists (earlier than the rest) * ask that the mailing lists be shutdown, * update the wiki, * update

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2006-11-06 Thread David Crossley
Henri Yandell wrote: So how do we retire a project? My checklist so far is: * move Agila to the Retired section of the Incubator site, * inform -dev/-user mailing lists (earlier than the rest) * ask that the mailing lists be shutdown, * update the wiki, * update the website, * move

Re: Retiring a project [Was: Retiring Agila?]

2006-11-06 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 11/6/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how do we retire a project? My checklist so far is: * move Agila to the Retired section of the Incubator site, * inform -dev/-user mailing lists (earlier than the rest) * ask that the mailing lists be shutdown, * update the wiki, * update

Agila Podling Quarterly Report

2005-07-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Agila has been moving slowly, but there is clear interest with the addition of the Twister project, a pure BPEL engine, and the addition of a new Agila committer, Chris Lim. There are other individuals we are looking at. At ApacheCon EU, we were approached by another workflow engine

Agila report

2005-04-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Agila is going slower than hoped for various reasons, but recent addition of the BPEL engine Twister should help. Matthieu Riou is bringing Twister, and we hope this can rekindle spark and interest in the combined project. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665

Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-02-09 Thread Joey Smith
tracking it since Sept 2004 and have not seen even a trace !! DARN ! The code is in svn (incubator/agila), and there are two mail lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been a tad tardy in getting the site updated. My apologies. geir

Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-02-09 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Joey Smith wrote: Sorry if you've already answered this, but how, exactly, do we subscribe to these lists? send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and acknowledge the reply - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Agila Volunteer

2005-02-09 Thread Girisha Neeraje
I am interested in contributing to Agila project (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/index.html). Can you please let me know the procedure. I can take-up some tasks and work on them too. cheers Girisha Neeraje www.volantetech.com 201 220 2346 Cell

Re: Agila Volunteer

2005-02-09 Thread David Crossley
Girisha Neeraje wrote: I am interested in contributing to Agila project (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/index.html). Can you please let me know the procedure. I can take-up some tasks and work on them too. Join the project mailing lists is the first step. See http

Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-01-27 Thread Bruce Snyder
/incubator/agila/trunk/ agila Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack(u30,0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]5R\F9EG)E=\$\!FFEI+F-O;0\`\`);' The Castor Project http://www.castor.org/ Apache Geronimo http://geronimo.apache.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-01-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jan 26, 2005, at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure would like to see even a hint of what it is - I have been tracking it since Sept 2004 and have not seen even a trace !! DARN ! The code is in svn (incubator/agila), and there are two mail lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-01-27 Thread rhalz007
@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ... On Jan 26, 2005, at 6:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure would like to see even a hint of what it is - I have been tracking it since Sept 2004 and have not seen even a trace

Where, oh where has my Agila gone ? Where, oh where ...

2005-01-26 Thread rhalz007
I sure would like to see even a hint of what it is - I have been tracking it since Sept 2004 and have not seen even a trace !! DARN !

Re: Agila

2005-01-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Jan 13, 2005, at 9:59 PM, David Crossley wrote: Someone should update the Agila project website :-) It still refers people to this general@ mailing list. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/ http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila.html Yes, will do. --David Christopher Lim wrote: Hi

Re: Agila

2005-01-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
yes. I did turn on archiving, but not setup eyebrowse yet. On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:08 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: And perhaps add an archive for the mails :) Carsten David Crossley wrote: Someone should update the Agila project website :-) It still refers people to this general@ mailing list. http

Agila

2005-01-13 Thread kumx thum
Hi I am new to incubator mailing list. I am interested in participating in agila project. If anyone guide to me how to work with this community, it would be greatful. Thanks, Kumaran. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Agila

2005-01-13 Thread Christopher Lim
Hi Kumaran, First step is to subscribe on the following mailing lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll discuss Agila there. Source is available at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/agila/trunk/ Cheers! -- Chris On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:36:46 -0700, kumx thum [EMAIL

Re: Agila

2005-01-13 Thread David Crossley
Someone should update the Agila project website :-) It still refers people to this general@ mailing list. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/ http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila.html --David Christopher Lim wrote: Hi Kumaran, First step is to subscribe on the following

Re: Agila

2005-01-13 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
And perhaps add an archive for the mails :) Carsten David Crossley wrote: Someone should update the Agila project website :-) It still refers people to this general@ mailing list. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/ http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila.html --David Christopher Lim

Re: AGILA

2005-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Dec 27, 2004, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any word on when Agila will be released ?? It's the SVN (has been for a while), but I've been awfully tardy in setting up lists and site and such. The issues that were interfering are over (a product release and work-related), and I expect

Re: AGILA

2005-01-02 Thread rhalz007
OUTSTANDING ! - Original Message - From: Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: general@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: Re: AGILA On Dec 27, 2004, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any word on when Agila will be released ?? It's

Re: AGILA

2004-12-29 Thread Glenn J Gonzales
No news yet about a release, but keep posted :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any word on when Agila will be released ?? Thanks, Rich Halsey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: AGILA

2004-12-27 Thread rhalz007
Any word on when Agila will be released ?? Thanks, Rich Halsey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Agila docs

2004-12-22 Thread Christopher Lim
coming soon. On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:06:54 -0800 (PST), Hemali Kunjeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Where i can get agila documents for reference? - Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! Try it today

Agila docs

2004-12-21 Thread Hemali Kunjeer
Hello, Where i can get agila documents for reference? - Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! – Try it today!

Re: [Agila] Agila BPEL

2004-12-06 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
I didn't see any response to this from the Agila developers. Did I just miss it? It seems to me that to get Agila BPEL married some significant work is necessary .. and obviously that's not possible without the committment of the Agila developers! Sanjiva. - Original Message - From

[PATCH][Agila] support for setting properties on Nodes in a DI style

2004-11-30 Thread jastrachan
Attached is a patch which adds Spring-style dependency injection to the configuration of Nodes/Tasks in the Agila XML using a property element. e.g. node id=3 type=activity class=org.apache.agila.example.LeaveApplicationTask display_name=Leave Application property

Re: [PATCH][Agila] support for associating tasks to groups of users and supporting user lock/unlock of task

2004-11-24 Thread jastrachan
. The definition of what users are in what groups is left outside of Agila - so any mechanism can be chosen - using LDAP, a custom database schema, business rules etc. Then if the app/user wishes, the user can grab tasks that are associated with a group they are in and 'lock' it (that is associating

Re: [Agila] Agila BPEL

2004-11-17 Thread Tom Bender
On Nov 15, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: Hi, I just looked into Agila in detail and thought it might be interesting to share my remarks and questions. Of course, most of my comments are related to BPEL compatibility, or what could be changed to ensure that making Agila BPEL-compliant

[Agila] Tapestry module?

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
I'm working on a project using Agila and Tapestry and have created a few small classes for integrating the two together (e.g. TapestryRenderer, TapestryRsponseHandler) and I could extract a couple of fairly simple helper classes for binding responses into Tapestry pages/events. Would

[Agila] making BusinessProcess and BusinessProcessInfo more alike

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
So far they contain most of the same information; but all their properties are of different names (getBusinessProcessID() versus getId()) and getName() versus getProcessName(). Firstly can we be a bit more consistent in naming things. Secondly how about implementing the same interface for

[Agila] InstanceService: listInstanceInfo method renaming

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
Shouldn't this method be renamed to getInstanceInfos() or something to match more the naming conventions of the rest of the API - such as BusinessProcessService? James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ - To

Re: [Agila] making BusinessProcess and BusinessProcessInfo more alike

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
Similarly, agila.engine.Instance looks close to agila.services.InstanceInfo. Could the latter implement the former? On 9 Nov 2004, at 11:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far they contain most of the same information; but all their properties are of different names (getBusinessProcessID() versus

[PATCH][Agila] bug fix for instance persistence

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
Currently without this change, any attempt to change an instance actually changes the status of all instances! :) Index: JDBCUtil.java === --- JDBCUtil.java (revision 56926) +++ JDBCUtil.java (working copy) @@ -395,7

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-09 Thread Jeremy Boynes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Nov 2004, at 18:53, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I think we may be in violent agreement here :-) I think we should add some type of collective entity, I just hesitate to call it a Group as that tends to be associated with a specific model ( a relatively static set of users

RE: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
-Original Message- From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Nov 2004, at 15:58, Jeremy Boynes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-09 Thread David H. DeWolf
What about ResponsibleParty? David Jeremy Boynes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Nov 2004, at 18:53, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I think we may be in violent agreement here :-) I think we should add some type of collective entity, I just hesitate to call it a Group as that tends to be associated

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-09 Thread jastrachan
On 9 Nov 2004, at 14:54, Jeremy Boynes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8 Nov 2004, at 18:53, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I think we may be in violent agreement here :-) I think we should add some type of collective entity, I just hesitate to call it a Group as that tends to be associated with a

Re: [PATCH][Agila] fixing insert/update of tasks

2004-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
done On Nov 8, 2004, at 6:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've attached a patch which fixes up the Task insert so that when you assign a task to a user you can capture the TaskID for the task. It also avoids the hacky try/catch solution to try update first and only insert if that fails.

Re: [PATCH][Agila] new test case

2004-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
done On Nov 8, 2004, at 6:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an attempt to comprehend what the bindings are and how they work for static versus EL types (static appears to be read-only, rather than a static expression) I hacked up this extra test case which might be interesting for others...

Re: [PATCH][Agila] bug fix for instance persistence

2004-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
done. added a test case to prove it as well On Nov 9, 2004, at 5:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently without this change, any attempt to change an instance actually changes the status of all instances! :) patch.txt James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/

[PATCH][Agila] Fix typo in project.xml

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Lim
Corrected an email typo. Deleted integrationUnitTestSourceDirectory as it is deprecated. Chris Index: project.xml === --- project.xml (revision 57139) +++ project.xml (working copy) @@ -121,10 +121,9 @@ /dependencies build

[PATCH][Agila] Bug fix for instance data persistence

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Lim
Added InstanceService in NodeContextImpl ctor and used it in saving instance data instead of having a local variable instanceData. This bug is not obvious when using in-memory persistence. Chris Index: src/test/org/apache/agila/impl/NodeContextImplTestCase.java

[PATCH][Agila] fixing insert/update of tasks

2004-11-08 Thread jastrachan
I've attached a patch which fixes up the Task insert so that when you assign a task to a user you can capture the TaskID for the task. It also avoids the hacky try/catch solution to try update first and only insert if that fails. Index: TaskServiceImpl.java

[PATCH][Agila] new test case

2004-11-08 Thread jastrachan
In an attempt to comprehend what the bindings are and how they work for static versus EL types (static appears to be read-only, rather than a static expression) I hacked up this extra test case which might be interesting for others... Index: NodeContextImplTestCase.java

[Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-08 Thread jastrachan
into the pool if they don't want to complete the task. Right now Agila uses a single UserID for assigning tasks. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like Agila needs some kind of 'role' or 'group' entity so that users can grab tasks rather than a workflow just assigning it directly to them

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-08 Thread jastrachan
one ('locking it') and then execute the task or releasing it back into the pool if they don't want to complete the task. Right now Agila uses a single UserID for assigning tasks. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like Agila needs some kind of 'role' or 'group' entity so that users can grab

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-08 Thread Jeremy Boynes
perform - they then grab one ('locking it') and then execute the task or releasing it back into the pool if they don't want to complete the task. Right now Agila uses a single UserID for assigning tasks. Unless I'm missing something, it looks like Agila needs some kind of 'role' or 'group

Re: [Agila] assigning tasks to groups of users

2004-11-08 Thread jastrachan
On 8 Nov 2004, at 18:53, Jeremy Boynes wrote: I think we may be in violent agreement here :-) I think we should add some type of collective entity, I just hesitate to call it a Group as that tends to be associated with a specific model ( a relatively static set of users and other groups). Call

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-11-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
community. I do think that working to have BPEL implementation at the ASF is a great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila. For example, we could have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone or inside Agila

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-11-01 Thread Matthieu Riou
really great software and a great community. I do think that working to have BPEL implementation at the ASF is a great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila. For example, we could have a BPEL engine as part of the project

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-30 Thread Paul Russell
implementation at the ASF is a great idea, and while I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila. For example, we could have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone or inside Agila. Indeed! I might have missed some mails

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-26 Thread Matthieu Riou
tasks to be allocated to people and processed etc. That said, while I believe that BPEL is capable of acting as the 'core' of a BPM project, I'm all for a layered architecture. I've not had a chance to look at Agila yet, but I'm assuming it's based on petri-nets or similar, so it should

Re: Release of Agila

2004-10-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 25, 2004, at 8:12 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote on Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:49 AM: 1) Release : we can't really do a release while in incubator, but we can certainly do milestone feature sets, which may be good enough for you Geir, Just to make sure we're all on the

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I'm 100% committed to seeing it a part of Agila, it doesn't have to only be in Agila. For example, we could have a BPEL engine as part of the project that can be used standalone or inside Agila. I've been staring at the BPEL spec, on and off, and I have to admit, I just don't grok it beyond

RE: Release of Agila

2004-10-25 Thread Cliff Schmidt
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote on Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:49 AM: 1) Release : we can't really do a release while in incubator, but we can certainly do milestone feature sets, which may be good enough for you Geir, Just to make sure we're all on the same page here (and just for the enjoyment

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-23 Thread Aleksander Slominski
architecture (who can do this task?) and an interface to allow tasks to be allocated to people and processed etc. That said, while I believe that BPEL is capable of acting as the 'core' of a BPM project, I'm all for a layered architecture. I've not had a chance to look at Agila yet, but I'm

Release of Agila

2004-10-23 Thread Laurent Ghio
We are thinking of using this new module Agila in our Software and were wondering when you would release it? Do you have a roadmap? How can we be involved in the development? Thanks in advance for your prompt reply Regards Laurent

Re: Release of Agila

2004-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 23, 2004, at 9:57 AM, Laurent Ghio wrote: We are thinking of using this new module Agila in our Software and were wondering when you would release it? Do you have a roadmap? How can we be involved in the development? 1) Release : we can't really do a release while in incubator, but we

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:41 PM, Uijin Hong () wrote: I hope to see Agila(or Apache-BPM-engine) could run both BPEL and WS-CDL. +1! -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-22 Thread Matthieu Riou
to execution model which are two different things. On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:59:48 -0700, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 21, 2004, at 10:41 PM, Uijin Hong () wrote: I hope to see Agila(or Apache-BPM-engine) could run both BPEL and WS-CDL. +1! -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Russell
architecture (who can do this task?) and an interface to allow tasks to be allocated to people and processed etc. That said, while I believe that BPEL is capable of acting as the 'core' of a BPM project, I'm all for a layered architecture. I've not had a chance to look at Agila yet, but I'm

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-22 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
see a number of other projects that might spring up around this (an Agila plug-in for Eclipse, for example?), and it seems more cohesive to host these all under one well-focused TLP. As ever, just my $0.10. Paul -- Paul Russell E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iChat/AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-22 Thread Davanum Srinivas
this. Right now, the likely candidates are commercial, but it'd be nice to have an alternative. The other reason I'm for a TLP is that I can see a number of other projects that might spring up around this (an Agila plug-in for Eclipse, for example?), and it seems more cohesive to host

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
Weerawarana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for merging in BPEL support using Twister. Geir, I'd like to understand the BPEL plans for Agila a bit more. I'm a co-author of the BPEL spec and have done an impl of it in IBM (BPWS4J- which was released via alphaworks a while back). My intuition is that a solid

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread 홍의진
Here is another '+1' for having a BPEL engine inside Apache domain. BTW, is it legitimately possible to combine Twister(which is not proposed and review by Apache PMC) into Agila? How about proposing contribution of Twsiter as itself? On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:24:23 -0500, Aleksander Slominski

LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that code with Apache Agila ? Andreas - Original Message - From: Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
I proposed to combine Twister into Agila to avoid overlapping. I thought the main goal of Agila was to develop a BPEL engine. Now if you think it's more appropriate, I wouldn't mind contributing Twister as itself. A workflow engine and a web service orchestration engine have a bit of overlap

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread thorsten
El jue, 21-10-2004 a las 20:43, Andreas Kuckartz escribió: I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that code with Apache Agila ? AFAIK yes. thorsten Andreas - Original Message - From: Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Matthieu Riou
Agila ? Andreas - Original Message - From: Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila Hello, I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine

Re: LGPL / Apache (Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila)

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: I noticed that Twister is licensed under the LGPL. Is it possible to merge that code with Apache Agila ? No, unless it's relicensed. geir Andreas - Original Message - From: Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: I proposed to combine Twister into Agila to avoid overlapping. I thought the main goal of Agila was to develop a BPEL engine. Now if you think it's more appropriate, I wouldn't mind contributing Twister as itself. The goal is to do BPM

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
that BPEL is by no means sufficient for all BPM scenarios and that there is indeed room for other work and implementations. I'm not trying to force Agila to abandon its model here .. So maybe the idea of a separate effort for BPEL is not a bad idea. Dims, what do you think? Geir, is the plan

Apache Agila Project

2004-10-21 Thread talk900hz-agila
Hi, I would like to receive information about how could I get involved to this project development. Could you please share with me the contacts of people involved directly with this project so I could talk and offer my help to them? respectfully yours, Fernando Tavares

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
explain what I think it's missing. [SNIP] However, I am willing to accept that BPEL is by no means sufficient for all BPM scenarios and that there is indeed room for other work and implementations. I'm not trying to force Agila to abandon its model here .. So maybe the idea of a separate effort for BPEL

Re: Apache Agila Project

2004-10-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 21, 2004, at 5:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to receive information about how could I get involved to this project development. Could you please share with me the contacts of people involved directly with this project so I could talk and offer my help to them? The best

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-21 Thread 홍의진
this is the right place to talk about IBM thing... but it's somehow related to Agila. so I'll give this a shot. Is it official policy of IBM that supporting only BPEL not any other 'process definition languages'? Will there be NO chance of IBM supporting 'WS-CDL' (http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-cdl-10/)? Maybe I

Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Matthieu Riou
Hello, I'm the project leader of Twister, an open source WS-BPEL engine. More can be found about Twister here: http://www.smartcomps.org/twister I'm sending this e-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This is great. We're really interested in getting BPEL into Agila. I'll take a look. We originally decided to not go w/ BPEL as the core language, as we wanted to support all kinds of activities in a workflow, being able to make a workflow that mixes them. So it was planned that we'd get

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Davanum Srinivas
-mail to suggest a donation of Twister to the Apache Group and a merge with the incubated Apache Agila project. I believe that Twister and the Gluecode engine could be assembled to a better solution, using the strengths of both implementations. This would also be beneficial for the BPM Open Source

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Matthieu Riou
I'm going to have a closer look at Agila to see how Twister can fit here. Is there anything I should look at beside the Subversion repository? Twister's engine core is somewhat tied to WS-BPEL. Our approach was a bit different, we didn't try to build a meta-model or anything too generic. Our plan

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Oct 20, 2004, at 7:03 AM, Matthieu Riou wrote: I'm going to have a closer look at Agila to see how Twister can fit here. Is there anything I should look at beside the Subversion repository? Twister's engine core is somewhat tied to WS-BPEL. Our approach was a bit different, we didn't try

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1 for merging in BPEL support using Twister. Geir, I'd like to understand the BPEL plans for Agila a bit more. I'm a co-author of the BPEL spec and have done an impl of it in IBM (BPWS4J- which was released via alphaworks a while back). My intuition is that a solid impl of BPEL needs to work

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Aleksander Slominski
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: +1 for merging in BPEL support using Twister. Geir, I'd like to understand the BPEL plans for Agila a bit more. I'm a co-author of the BPEL spec and have done an impl of it in IBM (BPWS4J- which was released via alphaworks a while back). My intuition is that a solid impl

Re: Proposition: Twister WS-BPEL engine and Apache Agila

2004-10-20 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Aleksander Slominski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i think Mathieu is already aware of this but current WSIF needs upgrade ... http://smartcomps.kgbinternet.com/confluence/display/twister/2004/08/13/WSIF+and+adding+bindings+to+WSDL alek Excellent! Indeed WSIF needs an upgrade .. I'm hoping to do

Re: intesets in Apache Agila

2004-10-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Oct 14, 2004, at 1:49 PM, Cooke, Matt wrote: Hi, we are building the same kind of code. I was wondering if I could join in and see what this project is all about. Of course! Given the absence of the code, do you want to just chat about what you'll be looking for? I can provide answers as to

Re: Apache Agila : BPM engine

2004-10-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Sorry about delay - on the road this week... On Oct 4, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Julian wrote: Geir, Thanks for the response. Could you clarify a few more things for me? The core engine is simple J2SE, depending on a set of services to provide functionality. So how hard would it be to make the system

Re: Agila - BPM

2004-10-07 Thread trollfiddler
Muchos gracias - Original Message - From: Bruce Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Agila - BPM This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is BPM? You might at least explain the acronym on your index

Re: Agila - BPM

2004-10-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 7, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Robin Antony wrote: What is the status of the Agila project? Are the requirements specs done? Is there any initial source code available? Is this part of any JSR implementation? Good Luck for this project! I am currently in the process of getting some nips and tucks

Agila - BPM

2004-10-06 Thread trollfiddler
What is BPM? You might at least explain the acronym on your index page! Thanks.

Re: Agila - BPM

2004-10-06 Thread Robin Antony
What is the status of the Agila project? Are the requirements specs done? Is there any initial source code available? Is this part of any JSR implementation? Good Luck for this project! Best Regards, Robin Antony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Snyder wrote: This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Apache Agila : BPM engine

2004-10-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Oct 3, 2004, at 5:57 AM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: This is the current URL (and it exists!) - but there is not much info there at the moment: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/agila/ No - I got caught by surprise with some work things, and a wedding. We're working to get more info here

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