Re: Binding term

2008-02-04 Thread Craig L Russell
Please take a look at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ INCUBATOR-72 which I believe fixes the problem. The policy calls for a community vote (which generally only the mentors are aware of) and if successful, followed by a binding vote on the incubator general list by which all

RE: Binding term

2008-02-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
ant elder wrote: The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. Now I'm confused. If it says only PMC member votes are binding does that mean Incubator PMC? Yes. The PPMC has no legal standing, and is an Incubator artifact. We want them to vote, but

RE: Binding term

2008-02-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. But somehow I like the fact that in most cases the vote is much wider - and I think that this helps foster a community responsiblity. Yes. But that's no different from

Re: Binding term

2008-01-31 Thread ant elder
On Jan 31, 2008 5:40 AM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and only the PPMC member votes are binding. The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. --- Noel Now I'm confused. If it says only PMC member votes are binding does that mean

Re: Binding term

2008-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: and only the PPMC member votes are binding. The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. But somehow I like the fact that in most cases the vote is much wider - and I think that this helps

Re: Binding term

2008-01-31 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Erik Abele wrote: Perhaps we need to do something like having the whole community vote and then taking this as their proposal to the PMC which then votes as to wether to pass this community advice on. Yes, we're already doing that it's just very confusing to

Re: Binding term

2008-01-31 Thread Erik Abele
On 31.01.2008, at 13:26, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:40 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: and only the PPMC member votes are binding. The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. But somehow I like the fact that in most cases the

Binding term

2008-01-30 Thread Craig L Russell
I think it's confusing people to use the term binding in different contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC. In particular, the

Re: Binding term

2008-01-30 Thread Carl Trieloff
Craig L Russell wrote: I think it's confusing people to use the term binding in different contexts. I'd like to propose that the term is only used to refer to decisions/votes that are binding on The Apache Software Foundation, which means decisions/votes made by a duly authorized PMC. In

RE: Binding term

2008-01-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
and only the PPMC member votes are binding. The error is the use of PPMC. It should say that only PMC member votes are binding. --- Noel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature