Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:15 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> I think we all agree on what's going on and I believe (although correct >> me if I'm putting words in your mouth John) that we all

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

I think that nothing is likely to change in the project - it is going to go on the same as this for a long time. If it is ready, it is right on the bottom of minimal. It does have enough prospective PMC members, but just enough - maybe 4 or 5. It has made a release, and it has just managed a

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 12:15 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John D.

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 2:52 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > >> So are we saying that the code

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > >> So are we saying that the code modifications are sub-licensed? Or >> re-licensed? > > Think of each file as the result of layering

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 6:31 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > So are we saying that the code modifications are sub-licensed? Or > re-licensed? Think of each file as the result of layering changesets on top of each other. Each changeset has its own copyright holder and each

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:49 AM Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Mike Jumper > wrote: > > AFAIK, only the copyright holder can relicense a copyrighted work, > whereas > > others may sublicense under compatible terms so

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Mike Jumper wrote: > AFAIK, only the copyright holder can relicense a copyrighted work, whereas > others may sublicense under compatible terms so long as the original > license grants that permission (ie: the license of the original work

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

AFAIK, only the copyright holder can relicense a copyrighted work, whereas others may sublicense under compatible terms so long as the original license grants that permission (ie: the license of the original work is not actually changing). Is that not correct? - Mike On Feb 20, 2017 10:35 AM,

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Mike, I'll point out that sublicense is probably not the right term. While both are Cat A, the BSD license is much less restrictive/offers less than the Apache license. Re-license is more accurate. Its still compatible with BSD, and removes any expectation that one is more/less than the other

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:30 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 11:09 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> > I haven't followed this issue, but if we take BSD

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Feb 19, 2017 8:01 PM, "Niclas Hedhman" wrote: ... CatA licenses are CatA because they allow modifications on source and re-license... sublicense* - Mike

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On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I haven't followed this issue, but if we take BSD licensed source and > modifies it (enough to claim copyright on the modifications) we re-license > to ALv2, but leaves the original BSD headers (if any) in the source. > >

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I haven't followed this issue, but if we take BSD licensed source and modifies it (enough to claim copyright on the modifications) we re-license to ALv2, but leaves the original BSD headers (if any) in the source. CatA licenses are CatA because they allow modifications on source and re-license...

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:12 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament >> wrote: >> > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status. > > Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around >

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 5:43 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > I'm personally still concerned about MADLib's licensing status. > Specifically speaking, where I feel more info is needed around > modifications to the BSD licensed code. None of that was in the legal > resolution.

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:45 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Sorry for jumping at this rather tale -- being overwhelmed with > work and personal stuff :-( > > As usual, John, I applaud your focus! A quick comment bellow. > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:28 AM, John D. Ament

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Sorry for jumping at this rather tale -- being overwhelmed with work and personal stuff :-( As usual, John, I applaud your focus! A quick comment bellow. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:28 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

No problem at all. Just to be sure we don't duplicate work ;) Regards JB On Feb 14, 2017, 12:28, at 12:28, Henry Saputra wrote: >Ah yes, sorry, totally missed your message. > >On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré >wrote: > >> Hi >>

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Ah yes, sorry, totally missed your message. On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > Hi > > I guess you missed my message. I gonna deal with CarbonData. > > Regards > JB > > On Feb 13, 2017, 19:26, at 19:26, Henry Saputra >

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

On 2/13/17 4:28 AM, John D. Ament wrote: I didn't include that in February, but if I had to list the names, it would be: CarbonData, Edgent ... So I'm curious, what can others do to help these 12 podlings get past the finish line? I started a discussion on the Edgent list and included my

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Upayavira, I've pinged the podling in the past about graduation. *I* think you're ready. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:15 PM Upayavira wrote: > I would appreciate assistance in deciding whether Wave needs more than > its current slow, but not stationary, development. > >

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Hi Upayariva, Maybe I am kicking an open door, but the mere 'whether Wave needs more than its current slow, but not stationary, development' indicates that you believe that it requires more than that to grow and graduate from our incubator. What is the focus of the PPMC? How is the project doing

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Hi I guess you missed my message. I gonna deal with CarbonData. Regards JB On Feb 13, 2017, 19:26, at 19:26, Henry Saputra wrote: >Thanks, John. I think CarbonData and SystemML may ready for graduation. > >Looks like Luciano will work with SystemML, then I will work

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Thanks, John. I think CarbonData and SystemML may ready for graduation. Looks like Luciano will work with SystemML, then I will work with CarbonData. - Henry On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:28 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > As mentioned in this month's report, there are

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

I would appreciate assistance in deciding whether Wave needs more than its current slow, but not stationary, development. Upayavira On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, at 06:07 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Awesome news, thanks everyone. > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:17 PM Suneel Marthi >

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Awesome news, thanks everyone. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:17 PM Suneel Marthi wrote: > Streams was also called as 'Ready to graduate' in the December report. > > Since Oct 2016, the podling has had 3 releases and another release is > planned for this weekend. > > There have

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Streams was also called as 'Ready to graduate' in the December report. Since Oct 2016, the podling has had 3 releases and another release is planned for this weekend. There have been discussions on the podIing mail lists about graduation following the next planned release. I can help push

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

I can help with pushing Metron forward. They have been discussing graduation for a while now. -Taylor > On Feb 13, 2017, at 7:28 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > All, > > As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63 active podlings. While > I've been chasing

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Thanks John for bringing this up! I will kick off and drive a discussion on graduating PredictionIO. Regards, Donald On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:28 AM John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63 active podlings. While > I've been

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

The discussion @ Trafodion has been kicked off. Best regards, Pierre On Monday, February 13, 2017, John D. Ament wrote: > Pierre, > > You're probably correct. I only went through this month/last month, not > the prior month so no one from group 3 would have been in my

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

I will start the discussions/process with SystemML. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:29 AM John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63 active podlings. While > I've been chasing retiring podlings, I think it would be good for the >

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Hi John, I am aware that you have a lot on your plate. So don't regard this as (negative) criticism. Re: Trafodion and graduation and what I am doing there. As I am not on the PPMC the only thing I can do is the same as you have stated to be in the realm of the IPMC: nudging along. So, that is

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Hi John Yes for CarbonData we are preparing the graduation resolution proposal. I try to finalize it for this month report. I keep you posted. Regards JB On Feb 13, 2017, 08:28, at 08:28, "John D. Ament" wrote: >All, > >As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63

Re: Podling Graduation Rally

Pierre, You're probably correct. I only went through this month/last month, not the prior month so no one from group 3 would have been in my email. With that said, knowing that you're on Trafodion, what are you doing to help Trafodion graduate? Is anyone bringing up the discussion? My point

Podling Graduation Rally

All, As mentioned in this month's report, there are 63 active podlings. While I've been chasing retiring podlings, I think it would be good for the community as a whole to look closely as podlings and see what we can do to graduate podlings that seem to be doing well. Take a look at the last