>-Original Message-
>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:42 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Shepherds for podling reports
>
>On 10 May 2012 13:39, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>-Origi
On 10 May 2012 13:39, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:32 AM
>>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: Re: Shepherds for podling reports
>>
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>-Original Message-
>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:32 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Shepherds for podling reports
>
>Thanks Jukka,
>
>One of the issues to address for next time is
Thanks Jukka,
One of the issues to address for next time is where to record
shepherds comments (if any). I suggest we do it directly in the
reports, in the Wiki. This requires no additional processes to
implement.
Once the shepherd process is working smoothly I'd also suggest that we
think about
Hi,
I just submitted our May report to the board. Thanks a lot to anyone
who chimed in with reviews and other help! Very much appreciated.
Let's try this again for the next report, perhaps in a bit more timely
and organized manner now that we're through the initial setup and have
more volunteers
Hi,
Sorry for the delay. Something came up that took most of my attention
away from the Incubator for the last few days.
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> Well, the Wiki page explicitly says that the chair will assign.
If you have time, feel free to pick any of the repor
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 8, 2012 6:50 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
> Well, the Wiki page explicitly says that the chair will assign.
To make sure they are all covered by at least one person, yes. However, I'm
pretty sure doubling would be good - mor
Well, the Wiki page explicitly says that the chair will assign.
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> No such thing as "leftover". Doubling up (or more) is just fine.
>
> Q is whether there are some under-reviewed...
> On May 8, 2012 6:40 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
>> I was la
No such thing as "leftover". Doubling up (or more) is just fine.
Q is whether there are some under-reviewed...
On May 8, 2012 6:40 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
> I was late to volunteer. Do you have any leftover projects?
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
> > I've done
I was late to volunteer. Do you have any leftover projects?
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> I've done my shepherd reviews and made one comment (about Amber) on
> this list). I'm not sure where you want general observations recording
> but I have moved the projects to the rec
Hi,
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> I've done my shepherd reviews and made one comment (about Amber) on
> this list). I'm not sure where you want general observations recording
> but I have moved the projects to the recommended status category
That's perfect, thanks!
I'll
I've done my shepherd reviews and made one comment (about Amber) on
this list). I'm not sure where you want general observations recording
but I have moved the projects to the recommended status category
On 7 May 2012 21:03, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 5/4/2012 1:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> I
On 5/4/2012 1:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> In the Board agenda, we have a line where each Director can state they have
> reviewed the report (before the meeting). They can also append queries and
> comments. Little mini-discussions kinda happen in those comments.
>
> Point here is: provide a similar
Hi Alan...
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Thanks for replying with a thoughtful response.
>
> Jukka put forth the idea of shepherds as a proposal. I was merely
> replying to that proposal with my own considered ideas.
>
> I am encouraged about the enthusiasm but I feel
Thanks for replying with a thoughtful response.
Jukka put forth the idea of shepherds as a proposal. I was merely replying to
that proposal with my own considered ideas.
I am encouraged about the enthusiasm but I feel that it blurs the
responsibility of the mentor. Shepherding the shepherds o
Hi Alan
For sure your point may be valid, but the whole point, if you read the
whole thread from the beginning, which I am sure you did, you will notice
that Jukka mentioned that this is a start and will assess the effort and
the whole plan after giving it sometime.
And actually having other pe
On May 5, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> If you don't want to be a Shepherd, don't sign up.
Yeah, I get that part.
> The board asked us
> to do a better job of reviewing reports and detecting mentor
> deficiencies.
I get that too.
> This is a plan to accomplish that.
My opinion
If you don't want to be a Shepherd, don't sign up. The board asked us
to do a better job of reviewing reports and detecting mentor
deficiencies. This is a plan to accomplish that.
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On May 5, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>>
>> On May 2, 2012, at 1:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In order to better share the effort of reviewing podling reports and
>>> giving constructive feedback where neede
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On May 2, 2012, at 1:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In order to better share the effort of reviewing podling reports and
>> giving constructive feedback where needed, I'd like to propose
>> something like the shepherd model the
On May 2, 2012, at 1:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In order to better share the effort of reviewing podling reports and
> giving constructive feedback where needed, I'd like to propose
> something like the shepherd model the ASF board is using for project
> reports. For each report a sin
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> In the Board agenda, we have a line where each Director can state they have
> reviewed the report (before the meeting). They can also append queries and
> comments. Little mini-discussions kinda happen in those comments.
>
> Point here is: provi
On May 4, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> Hi Jukka...
>
> I also added myself, but as being a Mentor of CloudStack I would rather
> take (shepherdZ: DeltaSpike, Nuvem, Wink) while Dave Fisher takes (shepherdY:
> CloudStack, NPanday, VCL)
>
> Dave would you please ACK that ?
S
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>...
>> The resulting TODOs are (see also the May2012 wiki page):
>>
>> - jukka: Airavata, Droids, SIS, Wookie, Zeta Components
>> - rgardler: Amber, PhotArk
>> - mfranklin: Ambari,
On May 3, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> OK, so let's see how this works out in practice. We have 19 podling
> reports to review by next Wednesday (Ambari is still empty).
>
> To keep the required effort down to a reasonable level, I divided
> these to six slots of three repor
In the Board agenda, we have a line where each Director can state they have
reviewed the report (before the meeting). They can also append queries and
comments. Little mini-discussions kinda happen in those comments.
Point here is: provide a similar location for IPMC members (including
shepherds)
Hi Jukka...
I also added myself, but as being a Mentor of CloudStack I would rather
take (shepherdZ: DeltaSpike, Nuvem, Wink) while Dave Fisher takes (shepherdY:
CloudStack, NPanday, VCL)
Dave would you please ACK that ?
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu,
Hi,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> This looks like a mind expanding activity. I added my name for a maximum of 2
> per month.
Great, thanks!
Would you mind taking a look at for example Nuvem and Wink this month?
Or pick some other yet unclaimed reports.
BR,
Jukka Zitti
On May 3, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>> Added my name,
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> Would you mind taking the role of "shepherdX" this month and giving a
> closer look at Clerezza, Lucene.NET and Syncope?
>
>> but, haven't
Hi,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
> Added my name,
Great, thanks!
Would you mind taking the role of "shepherdX" this month and giving a
closer look at Clerezza, Lucene.NET and Syncope?
> but, haven't mentors already kind of volunteered for this by virtue that they
> are
Added my name, but, haven't mentors already kind of volunteered for this by
virtue that they are mentoring?
Matt Hogstrom
m...@hogstrom.org
A Day Without Nuclear Fusion Is a Day Without Sunshine
On May 2, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Ross Ga
Hi,
OK, so let's see how this works out in practice. We have 19 podling
reports to review by next Wednesday (Ambari is still empty).
To keep the required effort down to a reasonable level, I divided
these to six slots of three reports each and divided them among me,
Ross and Matt and three other
I think it was me that was unclear. I was backtracking in the idea of
linking cross-community work to shepherds. I wasn't backtracking on the
idea of shepherds. Or, what you said ;-)
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 3, 2012 2:35 AM, "Greg Stein" wrote:
> On W
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On May 2, 2012 5:57 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote:
>...
>> Stated interests, and cross-community awareness are at odds with each
> other.
>>
>> The Board randomly assigns shepherds to t
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On May 2, 2012 5:57 PM, "Greg Stein" wrote:
>
> On May 2, 2012 8:10 AM, "Ross Gardler" wrote:
> >...
> > I don't imagine the "bucketing" to be enshrined in written process, or
> > even be fixed. More of a convenience. We might do it b
On May 2, 2012 8:10 AM, "Ross Gardler" wrote:
>...
> I don't imagine the "bucketing" to be enshrined in written process, or
> even be fixed. More of a convenience. We might do it by, for example,
> asking Shepherds to identify the projects they would *prefer* to
> shepherd and why. To continue my
>-Original Message-
>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:09 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Shepherds for podling reports
>
>On 2 May 2012 12:50, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>>-Origi
Hi,
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> I don't imagine the "bucketing" to be enshrined in written process, or
> even be fixed. More of a convenience. We might do it by, for example,
> asking Shepherds to identify the projects they would *prefer* to
> shepherd and why.
Sounds u
On 2 May 2012 12:50, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote:
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
...
>>Looking a little further forward i.e. not suggesting this initial
>>small step should be transformed into a larger step but rather looking
>>at what the ne
>-Original Message-
>From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 7:24 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Shepherds for podling reports
>
>On 2 May 2012 10:19, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:54 AM
>To: general
>Subject: Shepherds for podling reports
>
>Hi,
>
>In order to better share the effort of reviewing podling reports and
>giving constructive feedback where needed, I'
On 2 May 2012 10:19, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>> This is a good idea. I have signed up.
>
> Excellent, thanks!
>
>> I only ask you bear one thing in mind. Some months active people here
>> have lots of their own podlings reporting, whic
Hi,
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> This is a good idea. I have signed up.
Excellent, thanks!
> I only ask you bear one thing in mind. Some months active people here
> have lots of their own podlings reporting, which takes quite a bit of time
> if done diligently. When as
Jukka,
This is a good idea. I have signed up. I only ask you bear one thing
in mind. Some months active people here have lots of their own
podlings reporting, which takes quite a bit of time if done
diligently. When assigning shepherd each month please bear in mind how
many reports they are alread
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