Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-08 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

What's the status of this effort?

I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.

Please branch any followup discussion about specific podlings to
separate threads.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
 2007-09-17 JSPWiki

S: Actively discussing leaving the Incubator
(http://markmail.org/message/etgsawr7mtjggppt).
R: Ask for an exit or graduation plan in next report (if not executed sooner).

 2008-01-06 RAT

S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
R: Push to graduate within Q1.

 2008-05-20 Hama

S: Active but not too diverse (?) community.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2008-07-08 Empire-db

S: Graduating in January.
R: Congratulations!

 2008-08-19 PhotArk

S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.

 2008-09-02 Etch

S: Too small to graduate yet
(http://markmail.org/message/ihkdh4rfunwzkjs7). Martijn is helping
them.
R: More mentors needed?

 2008-09-04 Tashi

S: Commit activity by two committers but near-zero public discussion.
No active mentors.
R: Mentors needed.

 2008-09-29 Olio

S: Retired.
R: RIP.

 2008-10-06 VCL

S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?

 2008-10-09 Droids

S: Somewhat active, still not enough for a TLP. Last report mentions
IP clearance issues?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2008-11-06 Kato

S: Zero activity.
R: Terminate.

 2008-11-19 Stonehenge

S: Zero activity.
R: Terminate.

 2009-04-24 Ace

S: Graduated.
R: Congratulations!

 2009-05-27 Wink

S: Pretty low but steady activity. Too small to graduate.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2009-07-06 VXQuery

S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.

 2009-07-17 Wookie

S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2009-11-05 HISE

S: Zero recent activity.
R: Terminate.

 2009-11-27 Clerezza

S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?

 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)

S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.

 2010-02-21 SIS

S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/20.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.

 2010-03-01 Bean Validation

S: Just about to graduate.
R: Congratulations!

 2010-05-09 Amber

S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2010-05-19 Deltacloud

S: Graduated.
R: Congratulations!

 2010-05-21 Zeta Components

S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community. Looking for a new mentor.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue.

 2010-06-24 Nuvem

S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-nuvem-dev/20.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.

 2010-07-14 Chukwa

S: Fairly active but not diverse enough community.
R: More mentor help needed for the community solve the diversity issue?

 2010-07-22 Lucy

S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2010-08-13 NPanday

S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2010-09-07 Isis

S: Active and apparently pretty diverse community. Why not already graduated?
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2010-09-26 Gora

S: Graduating in January.
R: Congratulations!

 2010-10-03 Kitty

S: Last activity in November
(http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-kitty-dev/20.mbox/browser)
R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.

 2010-11-02 Celix

S: Somewhat active, not enough for a TLP.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

 2010-11-15 Stanbol

S: Fairly active and apparently diverse community. No release yet.
R: Ask for a graduation plan in next report.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

 2008-01-06 RAT

 S: Looking to graduate but stuck with (self-inflicted?) bureacracy.
 R: Push to graduate within Q1.

Rat is stalled on trademarks

Robert

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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-08 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Jukka,

On Jan 8, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

 2010-02-21 SIS
 
 S: Last activity in November
 (http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sis-dev/20.mbox/browser)
 R: Retire unless activity picks up in Q1.

As a SIS mentor I'd say this is fair, but my personal gut tells me it would be 
nice to give
SIS until end of Q2/Q3. Also I'll echo my call again for contributors (mentors, 
geospatial
enthusiasts, others) and for folks that are interested in having an ALv2 
licensed 
geospatial toolkit to come on over to sis-dev@ or sis-user@ and contribute.

Cheers,
Chris

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Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
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Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Benson Margulies
This has been the subject of prior conversations, but I'm opening a
thread in some hope of reaching a definitive resolution.

Some of our non-graduating podlings have a common problem. They look
good in all ways except growth. This inhibits graduation from 2.5
standpoints:

1) they are dubiously large enough to sustain as a TLP.

2) they don't have much (or any) track record in incorporating new contributors.

2.5) they might not be very diverse. I list this as a .5 because I
think that we've established that diversity is a lower priority.

There are some possible responses to this situation.

a) toss them out of the incubator.

b) keep them in the incubator indefinitely.

c) graduate them, but with some conditions.

I'm most interested in (c). I think that the simple condition here is
that at least one PMC member, or, possibly, the PMC chair, has to be
an Apache participant with significant experience, preferably a
foundation member. Essentially, I'm proposing to create a category
that has more Foundation supervision than an ordinary TLP, but less
than a podling.

The advantages of this, in my opinion, is that it removes overhead
from the incubator while allowing for slow-growing communities. Or, if
you prefer, it's an intermediate between a lab and a TLP. The 'person
of long standing' has to be willing to be real member of the PMC, not
just an occasional scanner of email -- however enthusiastically he or
she plans to bail once the project adds a few more people.

All of this is making the assumption that the Foundation, in
eliminating Umbrellas, has not lost its appetite for small projects.
Since the board is the group that has to deal with the reports and
supervision, I end up wondering if the board needs to be asked for a
formal opinion here.

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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

2012-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
 a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
 my summary (S) and subjective recommendation (R) for each project.

Excellent work!  This is the type of information I would love to see
in board reports from the Incubator.

For reference, here are the published incubator reports, minus the
podling reports:

https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Incubator.html

Here are the podling reports for all of the podlings that have yet to
(or never managed to) graduate:

https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/#podling

Here is an up-to-the-minute update on podlings by age (complete with a graph):

https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age

- Sam Ruby

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Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

snip

 c) graduate them, but with some conditions.

Apache already fixes inquorate (too small) TLPs (by moving to attic or
rebooting). Dead TLPs are discovered by the board when no report is
submitted.

The problem for the IPMC is understanding whether a podling is small
but health or if it's stunted through poor health. Graduating a small
and unhealthy podling is likely to cause later problems for the board
once it becomes self-governing. Graduating an podling before it's
learned to be self-sustaining increases the probability that the TLP
will fail after it becomes inquorate.

If the Incubator is not sure that a podling is small but healthy, then
would the board be in a better position to make that judgement after
graduation?

An easy way to trial conditional graduation would be to allow small
podlings (who meet our other graduation criteria) to move from the
main sequence to a special set of rules.

Robert

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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding)

LieGrue,
strub



- Original Message -
 From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:04 PM
 Subject: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP
 
 
 
 Dear IPMC, dear Community!
 
 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of 
 the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE on 
 graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases 
 and established an active community.
 
 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like to 
 propose graduation as a TLP. 
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we fulfilled 
 all requirements.
 
 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued support 
 and 
 also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to the ASF!
 
 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the board 
 about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report attached 
 below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]
 
 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP
 
 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP
 
 [+0] don't care
 
 [-1] nope, because (fill in)
 
 The VOTE is open for 72h.
 
 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval 
 
 Status Page    : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html
 
 thanks, 
 
 the BVAL PPMC
 
 
 Board Resolution Report
 --
 
 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.
 
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation 
 be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org
 
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 [1] 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-bval-dev/20.mbox/%3CCAOvkMoZ6EVNDZ2SNq44L992JTr_oquoJV2Oun-fKhpYX03DPiQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 [2] 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BeanValidation/Graduation+Proposal
 
 
 

Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Benson Margulies
 If the Incubator is not sure that a podling is small but healthy, then
 would the board be in a better position to make that judgement after
 graduation?

In the case at hand (Isis), I'd propose that the IPMC could assert
that they are healthy -- with an asterix. Never having seen them
incorporate a new contributor, we can't say that they are, in fact, a
track record of welcoming new contributors.

I have two motivations for looking for a 'special set of rules.' (a)
the voices here advocating squashing podlings that don't graduate in
some fixed time interval, and (b) the desire to reduce mentor load.
The 'special set of rules' would recognize, in effect, that this
project still needs some more supervision, but could be trusted with
its own svn karma, etc.



 An easy way to trial conditional graduation would be to allow small
 podlings (who meet our other graduation criteria) to move from the
 main sequence to a special set of rules.

 Robert

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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1

regards,
gerhard



2012/1/8 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de



 Dear IPMC, dear Community!

 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed
 implementation of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like
 to start a VOTE on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3
 releases and established an active community.

 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like
 to propose graduation as a TLP.
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we
 fulfilled all requirements.

 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued
 support and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to
 the ASF!

 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the
 board about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report
 attached below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI
 [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

 The VOTE is open for 72h.

 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval

 Status Page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html

 thanks,

 the BVAL PPMC


 Board Resolution Report
 --

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.






 [1]
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-bval-dev/20.mbox/%3CCAOvkMoZ6EVNDZ2SNq44L992JTr_oquoJV2Oun-fKhpYX03DPiQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 [2]
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BeanValidation/Graduation+Proposal


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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

-1 (sorry)

http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html seems to be
missing name check sign-off [1]. Perhaps it's already been done. If
so, please just update and restart.

If this is intentional, feel free to start a VOTE to remove this
requirement for graduation...

Robert

[1] Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist
and check www.nameprotect.com to be sure that the name is not already
trademarked for an existing software product.

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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
+1

On Sunday, January 8, 2012, Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org wrote:
 +1

 regards,
 gerhard



 2012/1/8 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de



 Dear IPMC, dear Community!

 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed
 implementation of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would
like
 to start a VOTE on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3
 releases and established an active community.

 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would
like
 to propose graduation as a TLP.
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we
 fulfilled all requirements.

 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued
 support and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project
to
 the ASF!

 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the
 board about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report
 attached below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI
 [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

 The VOTE is open for 72h.

 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval

 Status Page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html

 thanks,

 the BVAL PPMC


 Board Resolution Report
 --

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it
further


 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf 

-- 
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding). G'luck Mark and rest of the team!

Cheers,
Chris

On Jan 8, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:

 
 
 Dear IPMC, dear Community!
 
 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE 
 on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases and established an active community.
 
 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like to 
 propose graduation as a TLP. 
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we fulfilled 
 all requirements.
 
 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued support 
 and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to the ASF!
 
 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the board 
 about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report attached 
 below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]
 
 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP
 
 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP
 
 [+0] don't care
 
 [-1] nope, because (fill in)
 
 The VOTE is open for 72h.
 
 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval 
 
 Status Page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html
 
 thanks, 
 
 the BVAL PPMC
 
 
 Board Resolution Report
 --
 
 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.
 
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org
 
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further
 
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Hi Robert!

 Thanks for checking!

Thanks for getting back so quick :-)

 I did update
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/beanvalidation.xml
 a few hours ago.

Based on that record, I'm now +1

 What do I need to run to pick this changes up on the page?

Not sure. I generally update the copy on people.apache.org then wait
to the changes appear on my browser. (And yes, I've been caught by
this before.)

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Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:

 the voices here advocating squashing podlings that don't graduate in
 some fixed time interval

[citation needed]

As someone who has been vocal on the subject, I have been very careful
to NOT suggest automatic termination, but instead initiate efforts to
establish a plan that we can track for podlings against.

I will state that I was disappointed to see your list of (a) toss, (b)
keep indefinitely, or (c) graduate anyway.  None of these are
appropriate.

Mankind's greatest achievements have come about by talking, and its
greatest failures by not talking. - Stephen Hawking

The right response to a lack of activity is to actually talk to the
podling.  The first step is to figure out what there is to talk about.
 Jukka's recent efforts in this area are spot on:
http://s.apache.org/C9k

In round numbers, 25% look like they are on there way to someplace or
have already gotten there.  25% are in need for a defibrillator.  And
50% need more investigation.

My recommendation: stop talking in abstractions.  Look at real
podlings, like Jukka did.  If you see a common pattern, that's fine
and make a recommendation based on that pattern.  Be prepared to cite
specific examples where those recommendations would be applied.

- Sam Ruby

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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Struberg
ok, reading the docs really helps sometimes ;)

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/README.txt

Just did run ./build.sh and committed the changes in site-publish. 

Should get picked up soon.

txs and LieGrue,
strub



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 From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
 To: general@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a 
 TLP
 
 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
  Hi Robert!
 
  Thanks for checking!
 
 Thanks for getting back so quick :-)
 
  I did update
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/beanvalidation.xml
  a few hours ago.
 
 Based on that record, I'm now +1
 
  What do I need to run to pick this changes up on the page?
 
 Not sure. I generally update the copy on people.apache.org then wait
 to the changes appear on my browser. (And yes, I've been caught by
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Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Struberg
Isis did pick up a few committers, but it's not a project which grows as fast 
as others of course.
We should try to get at bit more folks interrested. 


But they have 3, 4 frequent committers which do a very good job. And the team 
has really good community skills!
Thus I'm not yet particularly worried.

LieGrue,
strub




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 From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: 
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
 
  If the Incubator is not sure that a podling is small but healthy, then
  would the board be in a better position to make that judgement after
  graduation?
 
 In the case at hand (Isis), I'd propose that the IPMC could assert
 that they are healthy -- with an asterix. Never having seen them
 incorporate a new contributor, we can't say that they are, in fact, a
 track record of welcoming new contributors.
 
 I have two motivations for looking for a 'special set of rules.' (a)
 the voices here advocating squashing podlings that don't graduate in
 some fixed time interval, and (b) the desire to reduce mentor load.
 The 'special set of rules' would recognize, in effect, that this
 project still needs some more supervision, but could be trusted with
 its own svn karma, etc.
 
 
 
  An easy way to trial conditional graduation would be to allow small
  podlings (who meet our other graduation criteria) to move from the
  main sequence to a special set of rules.
 
  Robert
 
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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 good luck!!

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:


 Dear IPMC, dear Community!

 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE 
 on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases and established an active community.

 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like to 
 propose graduation as a TLP.
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we fulfilled 
 all requirements.

 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued support 
 and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to the ASF!

 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the board 
 about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report attached 
 below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

 The VOTE is open for 72h.

 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval

 Status Page    : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html

 thanks,

 the BVAL PPMC


 Board Resolution Report
 --

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.






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Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Benson Margulies
Sam,

Rather than argue about the existence and interpretation of messages
about squashing stale podlings, how about this adjustment to my
presentation:

1. OK, let's forget about dumping aged podlings

2. The third option I presented was 'graduate with an asterix'.
However, I didn't really intend to claim that no other possibilities
existed. Another possibility is 'remain under the supervision of the
incubator PMC but with more autonomy.' I could elaborate, but I'd
rather see if there is a remote consensus to go in any direction like
this.

Mark, yes, the existing people are really good. But they have not
added any new ones since the launch of the podling, so they've haven't
passed that test.

--benson


On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 Isis did pick up a few committers, but it's not a project which grows as fast 
 as others of course.
 We should try to get at bit more folks interrested.


 But they have 3, 4 frequent committers which do a very good job. And the team 
 has really good community skills!
 Thus I'm not yet particularly worried.

 LieGrue,
 strub




 - Original Message -
 From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 10:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

  If the Incubator is not sure that a podling is small but healthy, then
  would the board be in a better position to make that judgement after
  graduation?

 In the case at hand (Isis), I'd propose that the IPMC could assert
 that they are healthy -- with an asterix. Never having seen them
 incorporate a new contributor, we can't say that they are, in fact, a
 track record of welcoming new contributors.

 I have two motivations for looking for a 'special set of rules.' (a)
 the voices here advocating squashing podlings that don't graduate in
 some fixed time interval, and (b) the desire to reduce mentor load.
 The 'special set of rules' would recognize, in effect, that this
 project still needs some more supervision, but could be trusted with
 its own svn karma, etc.



  An easy way to trial conditional graduation would be to allow small
  podlings (who meet our other graduation criteria) to move from the
  main sequence to a special set of rules.

  Robert

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[VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating(RC7)

2012-01-08 Thread Devin Han
Hi all,

The ODF Toolkit 0.5 is ready for release.  This will be our first incubator
release.
We had a preliminary vote in the PPMC, which had great results, including a
+1 from our mentor, Yegor.

The PPMC vote result thread is here:
http://markmail.org/message/tw3juzkak6kdiod2
The vote thread is here:
http://markmail.org/message/h6qfmhl4vulyjyhw

We need two more IPMC votes to pass.

Please vote on releasing the following candidate RC7 as Apache ODF Toolkit
(incubating) version 0.5.

This release candidate fixes the pom.xml file inconsistant issue found in
RC6. Thanks Yegor!

The candidate for the ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating release is available at:
http://people.apache.org/~devinhan/odftoolkit-release/odftoolkit-0.5-incubating-rc7/

The release candidate is a zip archive of the sources in:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/odf/tags/odftoolkit-0.5-incubating/

The SHA1 checksum of the zip archive is
4e97a1a79291035d590b5578caf79478dc3f6de8.
The MD5 checksum of the zip archive is 8883f036ee34282077d3c175329f6257.

Besides source code, binary packages and javadoc packages are also listed
in:
http://people.apache.org/~devinhan/odftoolkit-release/odftoolkit-0.5-incubating-rc7/
All of the artifacts supply three package formats, tar.gz, tar.bz2 and zip.

Keys:
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/odftoolkit/KEYS

The vote is open for 72 hours, or until we get the needed number of votes
(3 +1).

  [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating
  [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

To learn more about Apache ODF Toolkit, please access:
http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/.

Regards,

-- 
-Devin


Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings

2012-01-08 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Sam,

 Rather than argue about the existence and interpretation of messages
 about squashing stale podlings, how about this adjustment to my
 presentation:

 1. OK, let's forget about dumping aged podlings

 We have quite a number of aged podlings with no activity and AWOL
 mentors.  I don't want to forget about that.  I continue to want to
 focus on that.  Not on tossing, or allowing to continue indefinitely,
 or graduating prematurely.  Instead I want to verify that the people
 who signed on as mentors, presumably in good faith at that time, are
 still on board.

Sam,

I started this separate thread because I view this situation as
distinctive from the problem you are referring to here. I take that
situation just as seriously as you do, I think. If you'd prefer that I
drop this (less urgent) problem until that one is under control. I'm
happy to do so.


 2. The third option I presented was 'graduate with an asterix'.
 However, I didn't really intend to claim that no other possibilities
 existed. Another possibility is 'remain under the supervision of the
 incubator PMC but with more autonomy.' I could elaborate, but I'd
 rather see if there is a remote consensus to go in any direction like
 this.

 You want to see if people will agree to sign a blank check?  My
 suggestion is that you present a more concrete proposal than more
 autonomy if you want people to agree to it.

No, I'm not asking for a blank check. I'm asking you and the other
more experienced people if you think that the idea of treating
Isis-like podlings differently from other podlings by giving them more
autonomy and less oversight makes any sense to you. If you all say,
'no, we don't want to change anything,' I'll drop it. If you say 'hmm,
let's talk details,' then I'll attempt to flesh out details. However,
since your bottom line is 'make a more concrete proposal,' then I
will, but I will wait a bit to see if this thread attracts any other
thoughts about the overall concept first.



 If the net result is that aged podlings can live comfortably in the
 incubator indefinitely, then this is not a proposal that I can
 support.

 - Sam Ruby

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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Matt Benson
+1

Matt

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:


 Dear IPMC, dear Community!

 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE 
 on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases and established an active community.

 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like to 
 propose graduation as a TLP.
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we fulfilled 
 all requirements.

 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued support 
 and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to the ASF!

 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the board 
 about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report attached 
 below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

 The VOTE is open for 72h.

 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval

 Status Page    : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html

 thanks,

 the BVAL PPMC


 Board Resolution Report
 --

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.






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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread sebb
On 8 January 2012 21:04, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:


 Dear IPMC, dear Community!

 The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE 
 on graduating as a TLP.
 The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases and established an active community.

 The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like to 
 propose graduation as a TLP.
 We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we fulfilled 
 all requirements.

 We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued support 
 and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to the ASF!

 We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the board 
 about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report attached 
 below.
 For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI [2]

 Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP

 [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP

 [+0] don't care

 [-1] nope, because (fill in)

 The VOTE is open for 72h.

 Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval

 Status Page    : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html

 thanks,

 the BVAL PPMC


 Board Resolution Report
 --

 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to creating an implementation
 compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
 and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.

I'm not sure I follow the sentence after related to.

implementation of what?

Do the validators and extensions relate to JSR-303?
Or are they independent?
Is this Java-only software, or could other languages be used?


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
 related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
 and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Bean Validation Project:
 * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
 * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
 * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
 * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
 * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
 * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
 * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
 * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
 * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
 * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
 * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
 * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
 * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
 * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org


 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
 be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean Validation, to
 serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
 Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
 death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
 or until a successor is appointed; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Bean Validation PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further


 RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling; and be it further
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator Bean Validation podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.






 [1] 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-bval-dev/20.mbox/%3CCAOvkMoZ6EVNDZ2SNq44L992JTr_oquoJV2Oun-fKhpYX03DPiQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 [2] 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BeanValidation/Graduation+Proposal


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Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP

2012-01-08 Thread Mark Struberg
 I'm not sure I follow the sentence after related to.
 
 implementation of what?
 
 Do the validators and extensions relate to JSR-303?
 Or are they independent?
 Is this Java-only software, or could other languages be used?

Yes, this is Java-only software as it's an implementation of the _Java_ 
Specification Request 303.

And yes, the validators and extensions do relate to JSR-303 as they use and 
implement the SPI and annotations defined in JSR-303.
Some of the validators are not even ours but from commons-validator.

Think about BVAL as a api + impl for JSR-303 core, which includes a few 
validations like @NotNull, @Length, etc itself.  Plus a few additional 
validations like @Email and some wrappers for making selected 
commons-validation functionality usable as JSR-303 validations.


LieGrue,
strub




- Original Message -
 From: sebb seb...@gmail.com
 To: general@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 5:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a 
 TLP
 
 On 8 January 2012 21:04, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 
 
  Dear IPMC, dear Community!
 
  The Apache Bean-Validation project provides an ALv2 licensed implementation 
 of the JSR-303 Bean Validation Specification and would like to start a VOTE 
 on 
 graduating as a TLP.
  The podling is in the incubator since 2010 and successfully shipped 3 
 releases and established an active community.
 
  The internal PPMC VOTE has decided with 11 +1 (see [1]) that we would like 
 to propose graduation as a TLP.
  We also went through the graduation checklist and made sure that we 
 fulfilled all requirements.
 
  We would like to thank our Mentors and the board for their continued 
 support and also Roman Stumm and his team for contributing this project to 
 the 
 ASF!
 
  We are happy to finally start the VOTE about the recommendation to the 
 board about graduating BVAL to a TLP with the Board Resolution Report 
 attached 
 below.
  For better readability, the Resolution text is also available in our WIKI 
 [2]
 
  Please VOTE on recommending BVAL as a TLP
 
  [+1] graduate BVAL as a TLP
 
  [+0] don't care
 
  [-1] nope, because (fill in)
 
  The VOTE is open for 72h.
 
  Incubator Page : http://incubator.apache.org/bval
 
  Status Page    : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beanvalidation.html
 
  thanks,
 
  the BVAL PPMC
 
 
  Board Resolution Report
  --
 
  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
  Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
  Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
  open-source software related to creating an implementation
  compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
  and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.
 
 I'm not sure I follow the sentence after related to.
 
 implementation of what?
 
 Do the validators and extensions relate to JSR-303?
 Or are they independent?
 Is this Java-only software, or could other languages be used?
 
 
  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
  Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Bean Validation 
 Project,
  be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
  Foundation; and be it further
 
 
  RESOLVED, that the Apache Bean Validation Project be and hereby is
  responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
  related to creating an implementation compliant with JSR-303
  and a library of pre-developed validators and extensions; and be it further
 
 
  RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Bean 
 Validation be
  and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
  serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
  of the Apache Bean Validation Project, and to have primary responsibility
  for management of the projects within the scope of
  responsibility of the Apache Bean Validation Project; and be it further
 
 
  RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
  hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
  Apache Bean Validation Project:
  * Albert Lee allee8...@apache.org
  * Carlos Vara Callau carlosv...@apache.org
  * David Jencks djen...@apache.org
  * Donald Woods dwo...@apache.org
  * Gerhard Petracek gpetra...@apache.org
  * Jeremy Bauer jrba...@apache.org
  * Kevan Lee Miller ke...@apache.org
  * Luciano Resende lrese...@apache.org
  * Matthias Wessendorf mat...@apache.org
  * Matthew Jason Benson mben...@apache.org
  * Mohammad Nour El-Din mn...@apache.org
  * Niall Pemberton nia...@apache.org
  * Roman Stumm romanst...@apache.org
  * Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
  * Mark Struberg strub...@apache.org
 
 
  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Matthew Jason Benson
  be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Bean