On 28/05/2003 9:47 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Going back and looking at the past 5 years, actually, I think that in this
case, the guy from Sun actually has a point (Rudy? Who the hell is he?).
Oddly enough in the J2EE/JBoss saga, I don't see Sun as being the bad guys
(but ok, some of us and Mark go
At 08:47 AM 5/28/2003 +0100, you wrote:
On 28/5/03 0:26 Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good: http://www.theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=19500
Hm...
Evil:
http://www.shiftat.com/blog/page/werner/20030527#sun_reaffirms_no_jboss_at
Indeed... Mark Fleury _is_ evil.
He has
At 10:08 AM 5/28/2003 +0200, you wrote:
On 28/05/2003 9:47 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Going back and looking at the past 5 years, actually, I think that in this
case, the guy from Sun actually has a point (Rudy? Who the hell is he?).
Oddly enough in the J2EE/JBoss saga, I don't see Sun as being the
On 28/5/03 9:08 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sun should be happy that people create cheap implementations of their
APIs. If their own implementations would be any better, they might also
be making money of them. ;)
Nothing against that, absolutely, but voices are saying that JBoss
On 28/05/2003 10:52 Ceki Gülcü wrote:
I concur that. The JBossGroup is playing a very tricky game, and some
of what they do will reflect bad upon the entire Open Source
community. Rest assured that Werner knows about these tricks since he
was involved with JBoss in Europe from the beginning.
On 28/05/2003 10:52 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
I fail to see what is the difference between JBoss Group LLC and any other
private/public corporation developing a J2EE solution...
None. Hence my problem with JBoss when comparing with the ASF situation
(which isn't flawless neither, however). I still
Don't you think JBoss' huge success has something to do with Sun's
animosity? Every developer I know who has a say on the platform uses
JBoss: better product, better documentation, better support, lower
price.
Don't read me wrong: I'm on the JBoss-side on this, in that *the
project*
On 5/28/03 5:19 AM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28/05/2003 10:52 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
I fail to see what is the difference between JBoss Group LLC and any other
private/public corporation developing a J2EE solution...
None. Hence my problem with JBoss when comparing with the
--- Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I fail to see what is the difference between JBoss Group LLC and any other
private/public corporation developing a J2EE solution...
Neither do i, provided that corporation gives you their j2ee server for free, with no
strings
attached; you don't
Steven Noels wrote:
Don't read me wrong: I'm on the JBoss-side on this, in that *the
project* should be able to present itself on a JUG event.
This is an interesting discussion. The New England JUG recently hosted
Bill Burke, Chief Architect of JBoss Group LLC
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