Michael Orlitzky posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 20:23:17 -0500 as excerpted:
> On 11/04/2013 04:46 PM, Duncan wrote:
>>
>> I imagine were emerge being written today, -1 /would/ be the default,
>> and there'd be an option like --select to add to the @world file if
>> necessary. That's actually the wa
All,
I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are
misusing "need net" in their OpenRC init scripts [1].
"need net" should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus
and breaks things. I also question the value of "use net", because the
same thinking applies,
On 11/04/2013 04:46 PM, Duncan wrote:
>
> I imagine were emerge being written today, -1 /would/ be the default, and
> there'd be an option like --select to add to the @world file if
> necessary. That's actually the way I setup my scripts, with -1 the
> default, and an extra "2" suffix script v
On 04/11/2013 14:28, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> The only way to get a more stable system is to do a emerge -e world
>> > and update that way. At least that has been my experience so far.
> I have never needed this; I wonder whether there exists an example case
> for this, I only see this used when some
yac posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:26:32 +0100 as excerpted:
> Sooo, basicly you have defined buttload of aliases, somehow managed to
> remember these nonsensical names and actually did not save any
> keystrokes, because most linux users heard of tab completion and use it
> succesfuly to complete c
Duncan wrote:
> I believe the reason it wasn't done is because the default options
> setting was added instead. Well that and the fact that (as covered
> below), I guess most users setup their own scripts/aliases at some point,
> at which point the existence of something that general-purpose de
Martin Vaeth posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:17:49 + as excerpted:
> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> and the default is oneshot
>
> I would always recommend to put -1 into EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS;
> you can still use --select if you really want a new package in a word
> file: after the f
Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600
> Dale wrote:
>
>> You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that
>> knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That
>> would be emerge -uaDN world.
>
> And from there you can continue; like addi
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 14:02:28 -0600
Dale wrote:
> You are right, it does require prior knowledge and as a user gets that
> knowledge, they likely end up where Alan, Duncan and myself are. That
> would be emerge -uaDN world.
And from there you can continue; like adding -vt --unordered-display
and
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:00:16 +0100
Ruud Koolen wrote:
> On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:10:57 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > Let's say I have the blocker:
> >
> > > dev-lang/python-exec-0.3.1
> >
> > We could have it additionally say something like:
> >
> > To resolve this blocker, you can run o
Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
> Dale wrote:
>
>> But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
>> process leads to the most stable update process.
>
> Do they? What do you consider a stable update process?
I consider it stable when things work as they
On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:10:57 Tom Wijsman wrote:
> Let's say I have the blocker:
>
> dev-lang/python-exec-0.3.1
>
> We could have it additionally say something like:
>
> To resolve this blocker, you can run one of the following commands:
>
> emerge -1 '>=dev-python/python
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
> Dale wrote:
>
>> But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
>> process leads to the most stable update process.
>
> Do they? What do you consider a stable update process?
>
> I come acr
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:20:24 -0500
Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> Oh absolutely -- i figured this isn't a trivial issue. :)
>
> But it does seem like something we will need to fix (that is, ensuring
> that blocker or conflict messages shown are -only- th
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On 04/11/13 10:07 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
>> On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
>>> wrote:
>>>
On 02/11/2013 17:03, M
El lun, 04-11-2013 a las 10:01 -0500, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
> On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat
> >> common for (newish) users to not know what to do
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On 03/11/13 07:10 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:53:13 +0200 Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2013 17:03, Michał Górny wrote: Sadly, it's somewhat
>> common for (newish) users to not know what to do with that.
>> Blocker output
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 12:55:45 schrieben Sie:
> Dnia 2013-11-04, o godz. 10:01:18
>
> Sven Eden napisał(a):
> > PyQt4 and synaptiks were only the messengers, btw.
> > dev-lang/python-exec-0. has the Targets pypy2_0 and python3_3 which
> > dev- lang/python-exec-0.3.1 does not have. But
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 06:06:52 -0600
Dale wrote:
> But after a person has used Gentoo a while, they figure out what
> process leads to the most stable update process.
Do they? What do you consider a stable update process?
I come across users on a daily basis which
- haven't upgraded their syste
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:26:32 +0100
yac wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 + (UTC)
> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I have a whole set of short, often 2-4 letter aliases/scripts
> > that take care of the various options
>
> Sooo, basicly you have defined buttload of aliases
yac wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 + (UTC)
> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as
>> excerpted:
>>
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>>> On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11
Dnia 2013-11-04, o godz. 10:01:18
Sven Eden napisał(a):
> PyQt4 and synaptiks were only the messengers, btw.
> dev-lang/python-exec-0. has the Targets pypy2_0 and python3_3 which dev-
> lang/python-exec-0.3.1 does not have. But both dev-python/python-exec-1.1
> and dev-python/python-exec
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> and the default is oneshot
I would always recommend to put -1 into EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS;
you can still use --select if you really want a new package in a
word file: after the first installation this should happen rather rarely
(and you can still use -n --sel
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 05:15:18 +0100
yac wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > >
> > > Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there?
> >
> > It's always been "emerge -avuND world"
> [snip]
>
> Is this documented annywhere? I have a hard t
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:51:32 + (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as
> excerpted:
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> > On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
> >> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 10:01:18 schrieb Sven Eden:
> Btw. Why does dev-python/python-exec:2 has a dependency on
> dev-python/python- exec:0 ?
Sorry, I meant: "Why does dev-python/python-exec:2 has a dependency on dev-
lang/python- exec:0 ?" of course.
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Daniel Campbell posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 02:50:27 -0600 as excerpted:
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> On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
>> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo,
Am Samstag, 2. November 2013, 16:03:30 schrieb Michał Górny:
> Dnia 2013-11-02, o godz. 14:51:26
>
> Tom Wijsman napisał(a):
> > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 09:16:45 -0400
> >
> > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote:
> > > This is a followup to a discussion on IRC yesterday regarding
> > > breakage that's occurr
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On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>>
>>> Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there?
>>
>> It's always been "emerge -avuND world"
> [snip]
>
> Is this document
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