On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:12:28 +0100
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Jason Zaman wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:46:19AM +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> >> How should one report bugs ? to infra or portage ?
> >> From my just rsynced tree, I see changelogs in reverse o
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> Once users have the full git repo on their machines, they have two
> options. They can update it efficiently with `git pull`, or they can
> update it with rsync by using `emerge --sync`. You can even mix the two,
I don't think you can mix the two, because how my local clo
Robin H. Johnson posted on Wed, 11 Nov 2015 23:11:48 + as excerpted:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 12:54:06PM +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>> It's not perfectly clean but I don't see any problem here:
>> ChangeLog-2015 : all ChangeLog from CVS ChangeLog: autogenerated from
>> git
> FYI, this was
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 08:25:53PM -0800, Raymond Jennings wrote:
> Isn't the whole anongit.gentoo.org concept designed to allow anonymous,
> read-only git to scale indefinitely in the future?
>
> Are there any plans in the works on how to utilize this domain name?
What do you mean plans?
It work
Isn't the whole anongit.gentoo.org concept designed to allow anonymous,
read-only git to scale indefinitely in the future?
Are there any plans in the works on how to utilize this domain name?
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:04:38 +0100
> Chí-Thanh C
On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:04:38 +0100
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Matt Turner schrieb:
> > The git transition had been 9 years in the making and has massively
> > improved Gentoo development. Look at the graph of contributions per
> > month: https://www.openhub.net/p/gentoo
>
> I'd like
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
wrote:
> Matt Turner schrieb:
>>
>> The git transition had been 9 years in the making and has massively
>> improved Gentoo development. Look at the graph of contributions per month:
>> https://www.openhub.net/p/gentoo
>
> I'd like to po
On 11/03/2015 04:04 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Matt Turner schrieb:
>> The git transition had been 9 years in the making and has massively
>> improved Gentoo development. Look at the graph of contributions per
>> month: https://www.openhub.net/p/gentoo
>
> I'd like to point out that
Matt Turner schrieb:
The git transition had been 9 years in the making and has massively
improved Gentoo development. Look at the graph of contributions per
month: https://www.openhub.net/p/gentoo
I'd like to point out that some stuff that has previously been done in a
single commit is now se
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> Apparently my complaining finally re-triggered some action, so sadly
> this looks like the currently best strategy.
You could have simply made a simple post pointing out that changelog
generation appears to be broken and likely had the same e
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Tho I get Dale's somewhat confused and now belabored point as well. For
> people who don't know how to do git on their own, as clearly he doesn't,
> the official signaling of what the stopgap changelog alternatives were
> unt
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dale wrote:
>> That is why a link was posted for me to use github instead. I
>> do realize and understand that git and github are two different things
>> but it seems they can work together as well. It ended up that the info
>> I needed was o
On 11/03/2015 02:52 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
>
> So you are telling me that people using github and the switch that took
> place has absolutely nothing to do with the changelogs going dead?
> You keep saying GitHub. Github is not relevant to this discussion.
>
> Yes, the ChangeLogs stopped being up
Duncan posted on Tue, 03 Nov 2015 06:43:45 + as excerpted:
> Without that, confusion reigned, and blaming the user for confusion in
> the absence of official signaling really doesn't help the situation,
> either.
I originally added, but unfortunately it got lost in the editing and I
forgot t
Rich Freeman posted on Mon, 02 Nov 2015 22:17:22 -0500 as excerpted:
> Anything in /usr/portage that you can find on github is also on
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/, which is a Gentoo site.
Well... not the metadata in the github repo with pregenerated metadata.
While it's generat
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Dale wrote:
> That is why a link was posted for me to use github instead. I
> do realize and understand that git and github are two different things
> but it seems they can work together as well. It ended up that the info
> I needed was on github but not to be fou
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote:
>> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either.
> Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please.
>
> Gentoo is not going to depend on github, because of the social contract
> issues.
>
> Gento
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote:
>> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either.
> Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please.
>
> Gentoo is not going to depend on github, because of the social contract
> issues.
>
> Gento
Matt Turner wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Dale wrote:
>> hasufell wrote:
>>> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
> Dale wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote:
> I thought Gentoo was not depending on git/github either.
Take 5min and read the wikipedia articles on both git and github, please.
Gentoo is not going to depend on github, because of the social contract issues.
Gentoo absolutely does depend on git,
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Dale wrote:
> hasufell wrote:
>> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote:
>>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> Then perhaps all this shoul
hasufell wrote:
> On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
>>> Dale wrote:
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching
>> to gith
On 11/02/2015 10:54 PM, Dale wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
>> Dale wrote:
>>> Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching
> to github?
We didn't switch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
> Dale wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching
to github?
>>> We didn't switch to github.
>> Then why are people saying to
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On 11/02/2015 12:00 PM, Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale
>> wrote:
>>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE
>>> switching to github?
>> We didn't switch to github.
>
> Then why are people
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:00:18 -0600
Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
> >> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching
> >> to github?
> > We didn't switch to github.
>
> Then why are people saying to use git to look at the log
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching to
>> github?
> We didn't switch to github.
Then why are people saying to use git to look at the logs? I don't
want to use git. I liked being able to go to th
On 11/02/2015 01:27 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>>>
>> I wonder what would happen if we just... dropped a full clone of
>> gentoo.git onto the rsync mirrors?
>>
>>
> You find out how many users have limited bandwidth (again)
>
> Why on earth would you do the most wasteful hybrid strategy when people
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
>
> On 11/02/2015 02:56 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> I know if I were still on rsync (or webrsync), I'd be raising hell about
>>> the lack of
>>> changelogs well before now
Hi!
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
> >
> >> Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
> >> a certain package?
> > ```
> > git log -- pkg-category/pkg-name/
>
> You removed the crucial part of my posting:
>
> >> git clone --depth=1
For the combine
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> Then perhaps all this should have been worked out BEFORE switching to
> github?
We didn't switch to github.
>
> I don't mind change but it seem this one wasn't really ready to be done
> yet although most made it sound like it was.
IMO we took too
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:56:24 -0500 as excerpted:
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know if I were still on rsync (or webrsync), I'd be raising hell
>> about the lack of
>> changelogs well before now
>
> Perhaps rather than raising he
On 11/02/2015 03:04 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 11/01/2015 08:22 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> Personally, I'd love the primary sync method to be git, and the primary
>> change logs conveyed via native git log methods, but in ordered to do
>> that, all those rsync mirrors need to switch to git mirr
On 11/02/2015 02:56 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know if I were still on rsync (or webrsync), I'd be raising hell about
>> the lack of
>> changelogs well before now
> Perhaps rather than raising hell you'd do better to raise
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know if I were still on rsync (or webrsync), I'd be raising hell about
>> the lack of
>> changelogs well before now
> Perhaps rather than raising hell you'd do better to raise money to
> hire an infra
On 11/01/2015 08:22 PM, Duncan wrote:
>
> Personally, I'd love the primary sync method to be git, and the primary
> change logs conveyed via native git log methods, but in ordered to do
> that, all those rsync mirrors need to switch to git mirrors.
>
I wonder what would happen if we just... dr
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> I know if I were still on rsync (or webrsync), I'd be raising hell about the
> lack of
> changelogs well before now
Perhaps rather than raising hell you'd do better to raise money to
hire an infra team to fix the bug or somet
Patrick Lauer posted on Sun, 01 Nov 2015 13:16:31 +0100 as excerpted:
> I'm getting mildly very irritated with the lack of easily accessible
> ChangeLogs for our packages.
>
> Apparently updating them stopped some time in August, so now there are
> some outdated ChangeLogs that don't really serve
Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим schrieb:
>>> git clone --depth=1
>> Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
>> a certain package?
> ```
> git log -- pkg-category/pkg-name/
I think his point was that shallow clones don't have the full log.
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that "resources" is a vague term [...]
> disk io and CPU to sync [...]
For syncing, I think these latter resources are less important,
because they influence only the *time* of a syncing action,
which is normally not so important for the user.
Bandwidth and (
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Please do not break all these possibilities for users
> who do not have to waste the resources for a full git
> clone and want to see regularly ChangeLogs nevertheless!
I don't think anybody has proposed breaking anything. It sounds like
it i
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On 11/01/2015 09:33 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
>>> Perhaps there is a better choice of distribution for you if you
>>> are.
>>
>> Or you can just... use rsync.
>
> Or emerge-webrsync, emerge-delta-webrsync or squashdelt
Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
>> Perhaps there is a better choice of distribution for you if you are.
>
> Or you can just... use rsync.
Or emerge-webrsync, emerge-delta-webrsync or squashdelta
(I strongly hope that the latter will be available again
in some future - IMHO it is perfect for most use
Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
>
>> Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
>> a certain package?
> ```
> git log -- pkg-category/pkg-name/
You removed the crucial part of my posting:
>> git clone --depth=1
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> What discussion or decision is necessary?
>> What is needed is for those who want changelogs
>> to fix the bug
>
> The bug can only be fixed by somebody who knows
> the details how the rsync mirrors are set up.
And
> Perhaps there is a better choice of distribution for you if you are.
Or you can just... use rsync.
On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 22:19:24 +0600
Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote:
> > Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
> > a certain package?
> ```
> git log -- pkg-category/pkg-name/
> ```
> // assuming user in portage directory or passed GIT_DIR with path to
> it.
>
> Although, it is only if user
> Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
> a certain package?
```
git log -- pkg-category/pkg-name/
```
// assuming user in portage directory or passed GIT_DIR with path to it.
Although, it is only if user has successfully cloned/synced the repo ;)
Which is hardcore quest when you're liv
hasufell wrote:
>
> git clone --depth=1
The only reasonable option for the gentoo user
(not for the gentoo developer) if he does not have
megabytes to waste on his harddisk (which probably
many users don't), if you want to *force* him
to use git.
Now how can this user display the ChangeLog for
a
Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> What discussion or decision is necessary?
> What is needed is for those who want changelogs
> to fix the bug
The bug can only be fixed by somebody who knows
the details how the rsync mirrors are set up.
As mentioned in the discussion in bug 561454,
*essentially* all it ne
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:41:29 +0100
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> On Donnerstag 03 November 2011 01:42:44 Ryan Hill wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:11:46 +0100
> >
> > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> > > as there was only positive feedback to this suggestion, I'll create a
> > > ChangeLog file in
On Donnerstag 03 November 2011 01:42:44 Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:11:46 +0100
>
> "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory?
> > > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical
> > > reasons... S
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 01:11:46 +0100
"Andreas K. Huettel" wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> > 1) Why is there no ChangeLog in the eclass directory?
> > In my personal opinion this is missing there, if only for historical
> > reasons... Should we still start one?
>
> as there was only positive feedback to
Fabian Groffen posted on Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:13:38 +0200 as excerpted:
> Obviously, all history is lost. VCSs other than CVS might keep history
> across moves here (svn, git, hg...), hence a "follow" could perhaps find
> renames. Question is if this can be detected in such a way that a
> useful
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