Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Thomas Gall
A decompression implementation all in rust it would seem. https://github.com/gendx/lzma-rs On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 12:36 PM Eddie Chapman wrote: > Stefan Schmiedl wrote: > > -- Original Message -- > > > >> From "Eddie Chapman" > >> > > To gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > > Date

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 3/30/24 11:17 AM, Eddie Chapman wrote: > Yes that's a very good point, that was something I was wondering in > weighing up both sides, what the costs would be practically, as I don't > know the realities of running Gentoo infrastructure. And maybe the costs > is just too high of a price to pay.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 3/29/24 11:07 PM, Eddie Chapman wrote: > Given what we've learnt in the last 24hrs about xz utilities, you could > forgive a paranoid person for seriously considering getting rid entirely > of them from their systems, especially since there are suitable > alternatives available. Some might say

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Sam James
"Eddie Chapman" writes: > Given what we've learnt in the last 24hrs about xz utilities, you could > forgive a paranoid person for seriously considering getting rid entirely > of them from their systems, especially since there are suitable > alternatives available. Some might say that's a bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Eddie Chapman wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: >> >> >>> Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying >>> is wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives to >>> choose from? That doesn't have to be

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Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Stefan Schmiedl wrote: > -- Original Message -- > >> From "Eddie Chapman" >> > To gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org > Date 30.03.2024 16:17:19 > Subject Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo > >> Michał Górny wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 10:57 AM Eddie Chapman wrote: > >> No, this is the the bad actor *themselves* being a >> principal author of the software, working stealthily and in very >> sophisticated ways for years, to manoeuvrer themselves and their >> software into a position

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
-- Original Message -- From "Eddie Chapman" To gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date 30.03.2024 16:17:19 Subject Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo Michał Górny wrote: On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: Note, I'm not advocating ripping

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
Eddie Chapman wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: >> On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: >> >>> Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying >>> is wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives to choose >>> from? That doesn't have to be disruptive

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 15:17 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > >> Michał Górny wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: >>> >>> Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying is wouldn't it be nice if there were at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 15:17 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > > > > > Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying > > > is wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives to choose >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread orbea
On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 16:02:25 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > > Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm > > saying is wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives > > to choose from? That doesn't have to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > >> Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying >> is wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives to choose >> from? That doesn't have to be disruptive in any way, people who wish

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 10:57 AM Eddie Chapman wrote: > > No, this is the the bad actor *themselves* being a > principal author of the software, working stealthily and in very > sophisticated ways for years, to manoeuvrer themselves and their software > into a position of trust in the ecosystem

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 2024-03-30 at 14:57 +, Eddie Chapman wrote: > Note, I'm not advocating ripping xz-utils out of tree, all I'm saying is > wouldn't it be nice if there were at least 2 alternatives to choose from? > That doesn't have to be disruptive in any way, people who wish to continue > using and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Eddie Chapman
Rich, Duncan, Dale, orbea, you have to admit the situation with xz-utils is nothing like the typical scenario people usually worry about, where a bad actor manages to compromise a project and slip something into a widely used piece of software. No, this is the the bad actor *themselves* being a

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2024-03-30 Thread James Le Cuirot
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 3:06 AM Dale wrote: > > when I got to the part about it not likely to affect Gentoo, my level of > concern dropped significantly. If this is still true, there's no need to be > concerned. "not likely" is the best way to characterize this. The exploit has not been

[gentoo-dev] Re: Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Duncan
Dale posted on Sat, 30 Mar 2024 02:06:26 -0500 as excerpted: > Gentoo has some awesome devs. Agreed with the whole thing and the above is a bit of an aside from the thread, but it's worth repeating! Thanks devs! (And security contributors, infra providers, testers, tinder-box runners, bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Dale
orbea wrote: > On Sat, 30 Mar 2024 03:07:13 - > "Eddie Chapman" wrote: > >> Given what we've learnt in the last 24hrs about xz utilities, you >> could forgive a paranoid person for seriously considering getting rid >> entirely of them from their systems, especially since there are >> suitable