Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Here's a crazy idea: can we patch our kernel to let make oldconfig default CONFIG_DEVTMPFS to true? Or better yet, request that this is changed upstream? Also,

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Here's a crazy idea: can we patch our kernel to let make oldconfig default

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I could see making that the default if there is no .config file present and a new one is being created, and perhaps upstream would support that since udev is popular. However, make oldconfig is usually used when you have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/01/13 04:19 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Also, after installing udev-197, are there any negative consequences to just downgrading to -171 again? Depends on

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: Depends on whether or not you rebuilt the rdeps -- udev-197 provides libudev.so.1 while udev-171 provides libudev.so.0 , so there's breakage on stuffs like lvm2 and other ebuilds that link to libudev Even so, I could

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-25 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 25/01/2013 15:23, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: Even so, I could downgrade and revdep-rebuild after that, and it should Just Work, right? Yes and no — you're safer if you get rid of the .so.1 first then revdep-rebuild (if you're using preserved-libs). I know there should be support for ldconfig NOT

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 01/23/13 19:29, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable system. I suggest including in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Michael Haubenwallner ha...@gentoo.org wrote: The only way I've found to keep the system bootable with both kernels (for the upgrade process until the new kernel config was good enough) was to replace /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 by /dev/root in /etc/fstab. How would

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/01/13 05:21 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/24/13 05:02, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: I've recently upgraded some server from kernel-2.6.28 to kernel-3.5.7 and encountered that the root-device was renamed from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 to /dev/sda1 due to some kernel driver change (took me a while to find out). I'm not using genkernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 01/24/13 16:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 01/24/13 05:02, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: I've recently upgraded some server from kernel-2.6.28 to kernel-3.5.7 and encountered that the root-device was renamed from /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 to /dev/sda1 due to some kernel driver change (took me a

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-24 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 24/01/2013 20:19, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Yep, this is a HP DL380 G6, and lspci says: 04:00.0 RAID bus controller: Hewlett-Packard Company Smart Array G6 controllers (rev 01) Hrm just for reference, I've got a number of G6s and they all work fine with the old cciss — although they do

[gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
please review this news item, seems we need one after all Title: Upgrading udev from 171 (or older) to 197 Author: Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2013-01-23 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: sys-fs/udev- Upgrading udev from 171 (or

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful.

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful. Looks ok but as the news item says, it's a bit too late ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:34, Markos Chandras wrote: On 23 January 2013 13:32, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all +1, this would have been useful. Looks ok but

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question - display-if-installed is set to . Would it make sense

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Philip Webb
130123 Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all ... - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ... I have 2 such lines : tmpfs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 15:02, Philip Webb wrote: - The need of CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y in the kernel; need to verify the fstype for possible /dev line in /etc/fstab is devtmpfs (and not, for example, tmpfs) ... I have 2 such lines : tmpfs /tmptmpfs

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 15:44, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: not for everyone, not everyone upgrades this often, and it's usually the servers that get updated last Agreed, but best to get this out ASAP. Only question -

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: None are involved. The second column would read /dev if it was involved. The news item doesn't mention what to do if there is no line to mount /dev. I don't see one in my fstab, and I simply followed the handbook

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 23/01/2013 16:04, Rich Freeman wrote: System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. AFAICT if you do NOT have a /dev entry you're the best off because the init script will mount it for you. I think the

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Weber
Hi, On 01/23/2013 04:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: System seems to work fine, so I'm not sure how essential that line is. The fact that I'm using an initramfs might also have an effect. I'd strongly suggest using CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y. and stop worring about udev/openrc. udev/openrc stopped

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab might end up with an unbootable system. I suggest including in the news item, that /dev/root must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab might end up with

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it based on the kernel command line, or your initramfs mounts it based on whatever your

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: fstab is not consulted for mounting the root filesystem, so it doesn't really matter what you have in there. Either the kernel mounts it based on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Felix Kuperjans
Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so people who put this in their /etc/fstab

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: Ah, good to know. I'm used to dealing with my little homegrown initramfs, where I parse root from the kernel command line in /init. genkernel does the same thing. Yeah, dracut generally does the right thing but that

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop ~ from: CONFIG_CHECK=~DEVTMPFS to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakage? signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop ~ from: CONFIG_CHECK=~DEVTMPFS to ensure people really changes it in their kernel and prevent breakage?

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Christopher Head
Are you sure? I have CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT disabled, latest stable udev (197-r3) and openrc (0.11.8), and no /dev line in my fstab, yet my /dev is still a devtmpfs with a proper set of device nodes. Chris On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:03:15 +0100 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, On

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop ~ from: CONFIG_CHECK=~DEVTMPFS

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Francesco Riosa
2013/1/23 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 23:45 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 23/01/13 23:21, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 23-01-2013 a las 15:14 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Why don't you drop

Re: [gentoo-dev] news item for udev 197-r3 upgrade (yes, I know, it's late)

2013-01-23 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 23/01/13 21:06, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Mike Gilbert: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: please review this news item, seems we need one after all Hello Samuli, /dev/root is no longer available in this udev version, so