[gentoo-user] x11-drm compile failure - linux/config.h not found

2006-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi, I'm sure I'm missing something here but can't quite pinpoint it. I want to install x11-drm and compare it to the drm in the mainline 2.6.19-suspend2-r1 kernel. I've disabled drm in my kernel config as required, and emerge x11-drm fails with this error: In file included from q:36: /var/tmp/

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:23:25 +0300, Colleen Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I, for one, would be devastated without Gentoo! I looked deep into myself and found that possibly it is fear that drives this thread. Am I not the only one with the impresion that for the last 10 yea

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > I can't think of any method to get real numbers. Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time server, they can get a good estimate of the number of users from the ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:58:50 -0800, Grant wrote: > Can we agree that active developers are good for Gentoo, Yes > and the more the better? If they are co-operating or working on separate projects, not if they are competing and flaming. > I think other posters to this thread may be trying to co

[gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2006-12-20 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
Hello, I recently switched to ~x86 and with it to xorg 7.x. I saw that the xkb syntax changed, so I updated it accordingly, but now I can't switch to VT's anymore. I searched google but all the solutions didn't apply to me, since they hadn't updated their xorg.conf. I use diff. keyboard mapping

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 December 2006 11:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > I can't think of any method to get real numbers. > > Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) ;-) > > Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time server,

Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drm compile failure - linux/config.h not found

2006-12-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 December 2006 10:58, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sure I'm missing something here but can't quite pinpoint it. > > I want to install x11-drm and compare it to the drm in the mainline > 2.6.19-suspend2-r1 kernel. I've disabled drm in my kernel config as > required, and emerge x11-drm fai

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 03:43, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?': > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: > > I can't think of any method to get real numbers. > > Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) Damn y

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 04:46, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?': > On 20 December 2006 11:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time > > server, they can get a good estimate of the number of us

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:11, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > I can't think of any method to get real numbers. > > > > Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) > > Damn you.  I actually searched for that package. :P > > As long as it is voluntary, I generally install progr

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS Core2Duo

2006-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:43, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: > Is there a tool to query a portage to get a list of all packages which > have 'testing' or 'stable' status for x86 and have 'not available' or > 'hard masked' status for amd64? sys-apps/paludis 0.12 with the ruby USE flag enabled contai

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:11:13 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) > > Damn you. I actually searched for that package. :P LOL! > As long as it is voluntary, I generally install programs that allows me > to report my hardware and soft

Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drm compile failure - linux/config.h not found

2006-12-20 Thread Jürgen Pierau
Alan McKinnon schrieb: I want to install x11-drm and compare it to the drm in the mainline 2.6.19-suspend2-r1 kernel. I've disabled drm in my kernel config as required, and emerge x11-drm fails with this error: In file included from q:36: /var/tmp/portage/x11-base/x11-drm-20060608/work/drm/lin

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Grant
> Can we agree that active developers are good for Gentoo, Yes > and the more the better? If they are co-operating or working on separate projects, not if they are competing and flaming. > I think other posters to this thread may be trying to compile a > similar set of statistics, but I'll jus

Re: [gentoo-user] x11-drm compile failure - linux/config.h not found

2006-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:57, Jürgen Pierau wrote: > Alan McKinnon schrieb: > > I want to install x11-drm and compare it to the drm in the mainline > > 2.6.19-suspend2-r1 kernel. I've disabled drm in my kernel config as > > required, and emerge x11-drm fails with this error: > > > > In file

[gentoo-user] No sound in flash

2006-12-20 Thread Felipe Ribeiro
Hi, When i try to open a flash video on firefox, the sound doesnt work and i get this error message repeated many times as output ALSA lib pcm_plug.c:1189:(_snd_pcm_plug_open) Unknown field hint ALSA lib pcm.c:2109:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 20/12/06, Andrey Gerasimenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:23:25 +0300, Colleen Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I, for one, would be devastated without Gentoo! > I looked deep into myself and found that possibly it is fear that drives this thread. Am I no

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:07:50 -0800 Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Number of users is largely irrelevant, it's not as if Gentoo needs a > > number of "customers" to survive, it is a non-profit organisation > > producing free products. > > That's exactly the argument here, and the point

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 19/12/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:18:19 +, Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 18/12/06, John J. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > It may, but you are confusing cause and effect. A distro with more > > > developers should be a better distro, and should have mor

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Knecht
Just getting around to reading this 59 post. Thread. Interesting. Thanks! On 12/18/06, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:54:06 -0800, Grant wrote: > I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing > for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users.

[gentoo-user] [OT] Radeon 7000 Dual Head (one card two different screens)

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas Buntrock
Hi there, I have a ATI radeon 7000 with a digital and an anolog outlet. I have two LCDs, one attached to the digital port and one attached to the analog port. I have no problem getting a cloned display. However, I would like a real dual view (one monotor left and one monitor right...). Can anybody

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS Core2Duo

2006-12-20 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Jakob wrote: > > Its funny till yesterday I didnt even know It supports 64bit ;-) Any Pentium D (or higher) CPU supports 64bit. > for now I will stick with 32bit, I think I will Install 64bit to > another partition in some weeks The other option is to have a pure 64bit syst

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Radeon 7000 Dual Head (one card two different screens)

2006-12-20 Thread Ed Santiago
>I have a ATI radeon 7000 with a digital and an anolog outlet. Me too. >I would like a real dual view (one >monitor left and one monitor right...). Can anybody help me? I am using the >driver radeon, since fglrx does not start X (No Device found). You might find this useful: http://

RE: [gentoo-user] Changing system from single to dual CPU ?

2006-12-20 Thread Joel Osburn
> From: Hemmann, Volker Armin > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:41 PM > > > > Might I suggest trying the following prior to your normal > (I assume > > > genkernel) build process. > > > > I don't use genkernel, never have. I did try the following: > > > > copy the .config to another directory,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:56, Mark Knecht wrote: > I agree again. The ONLY problem I'm having with Gentoo is the devs > removing older revs of things from portage. (ati-drivers, MythTV, > etc.) In cases like that, you use portage overlays. Then the ebuild will always be there until *you*

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Radeon 7000 Dual Head (one card two different screens)

2006-12-20 Thread Thomas Buntrock
Ed Santiago wrote: > You might find this useful: > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors > > In particular, the above page links to this sample xorg.conf: > > http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf > Perfect! Thanks, Thomas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Radeon 7000 Dual Head (one card two different screens)

2006-12-20 Thread Ed Santiago
>> http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf >> >Perfect! Have fun! And, a favor request: if you start seeing pixel sparkle, can you (privately) drop me a line? I'm trying to figure out if it's my (Radeon) card, cable, monitor, or gremlins. ^E -- Ed Santiago Toolsmith [

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Gentoo - being different as it is - a metadistro, is by far the most easy to mantain and support installs I've ever used. Most, if not all, problems usually exist because some companies still relay in a single distro specific behavior (companies that do not see the "big picture"), the rest is pure

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Alan On 12/20/06, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:56, Mark Knecht wrote: > I agree again. The ONLY problem I'm having with Gentoo is the devs > removing older revs of things from portage. (ati-drivers, MythTV, > etc.) In cases like that, you use por

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread
Hi folks > -Original Message- > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 December 2006 17:16 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? - snip snip - > > The problem with this view of overlays has been that I do an eix-sync > and find

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:16, Mark Knecht wrote: [SNIP] > I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the > web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The > problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type, > it's a bit beyo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/20/06, Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the > web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The > problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type, > it's a bi

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:28, Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) wrote: > Is there, or could there be, a method for giving say 7 days notice for when > an ebuild is going to be removed? When we are talking about old ebuilds being removed in favour of newer available ebuilds this just isn't feasible

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 20/12/06, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/20/06, Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the > > web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The > > problem is for a user ty

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:42, Mark Knecht wrote: > My personal problem was not finding it but moving it to my machine and > creating the overlay. I'm not sure of directory structure. I don't > know all the files that have to be there and where. I don't know about > running digests, etc., and

Re: [gentoo-user] can no longer switch to a VT - OT

2006-12-20 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Gabriel Rossetti wrote: > I recently switched to ~x86 and with it to xorg 7.x. Are you sure it's due to upgrading Xorg and not Gnome? See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175870 > I saw that > the xkb syntax changed, so I updated it accordingly, > but now I can't switch to VT's

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Mark Knecht wrote: > At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay > what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I > don't know it will be removed until it's been removed. You could, as soon as you have a system in a working state, tar up the entire /usr/portage tree, and t

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Steve Dibb
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: I can't think of any method to get real numbers. Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that would like to (voluntarily) let us k

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/20/06, Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: > At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay > what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I > don't know it will be removed until it's been removed. You could, as soon as you have a system in

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 December 2006 21:39, Mark Knecht wrote: > If I wanted to take the plunge I should probably learn to run my own > portage server where I suppose I could learn to keep things like this > even if the main server wants to get rid of things. You don't need to do that. I have one box with a porta

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:16, Mark Knecht wrote: > > In cases like that, you use portage overlays. Then the ebuild will > > always be there until *you* delete it > > The problem with this view of overlays has been that I do an eix-sync > and find that something I'm currently running been re

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync connecting to 1.0.0.0 [OT, maybe]

2006-12-20 Thread marco restelli
On 12/17/06, Mark M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/16/06, marco restelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/16/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 16 December 2006 08:38, "marco restelli" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --syn

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel woes..

2006-12-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/19/06, Danyelle Gragsone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can you help with this please? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3793329.html#3793329 It seems you recently updated your kernel. After every kernel upgrade, you must re-merge nvidia-drivers to rebuild them against the current kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing system from single to dual CPU ?

2006-12-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/19/06, Joel Osburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There isn't an image in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/ either. Strange. Try running "make V=1" to get verbose output. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel woes..

2006-12-20 Thread Flophouse Joe
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Richard Fish wrote: It seems you recently updated your kernel. After every kernel upgrade, you must re-merge nvidia-drivers to rebuild them against the current kernel. Note that /usr/src/linux must point to the configured kernel sources for your running kernel (or the on

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 12:16:04PM +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote: > Is the non-profit organization side of Gentoo healthy? My brief Google > session does not reveal anything that suggests it is not, but if somebody > can and may comment on this, please do so. What do you mean by healthy? Ther

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Dale
Steve Dibb wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: >> >> >>> I can't think of any method to get real numbers. >>> >> >> Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :) > There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that

[gentoo-user] ATI frustration

2006-12-20 Thread James
Hello, I've been trying to get 3D working on a amd64(pci-3e) mobo that has an ATI 1900 video card: TI Technologies Inc R580 [Radeon X1900 XT] Primary I first setup the radeon driver and it crawled with bzflag (the 3D software I test with). So I've been trying to get the ati-drivers to work. Thi

[gentoo-user] Totem / Gnome-Screensaver / Gnome-2.16 - Screensaver kicks in during movie

2006-12-20 Thread Ow Mun Heng
I'm not sure if anyone else is experiencing this but upgraded to gnome-2.16, which pulled in gnome-screensaver etc. thing is, when I view movies using totem in fullscreen, it will still cause the screensaver to kick in after X amount of minutes. Is anyone else experiencing this??? -- gentoo-user

Re: [gentoo-user] Totem / Gnome-Screensaver / Gnome-2.16 - Screensaver kicks in during movie

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 09:00 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone else is experiencing this but upgraded to > gnome-2.16, which pulled in gnome-screensaver etc. > thing is, when I view movies using totem in fullscreen, it will still > cause the screensaver to kick in after X amount of

[gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Rollin
Hi all A discussion on the staff blogs over at OSNews about the Linux desktop got me thinking. Thom and Eugenia seem to think that "the linux desktop peaked in 2001-2004", but I don't remember the hype around Ubuntu starting till well after that. Their argument seemed to be that because GNOME is

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-20 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 21 Thursday 02:32:15 AM +, Jeff Rollin wrote: > because GNOME is running into problems and because KDE is behind > schedule, the Linux desktop is dead. Hahahaha! That's funny. Justin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Grant
> Is the non-profit organization side of Gentoo healthy? My brief Google > session does not reveal anything that suggests it is not, but if somebody > can and may comment on this, please do so. What do you mean by healthy? There's a number of important issues the Trustees have to work out but we'r

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-20 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 21:03 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote: > On AD 2006 December 21 Thursday 02:32:15 AM +, Jeff Rollin wrote: > > because GNOME is running into problems and because KDE is behind > > schedule, the Linux desktop is dead. > > Hahahaha! > > That's funny. > > > Justin Would this

Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux "jumped the Shark"?

2006-12-20 Thread Norman Rieß
Jeff Rollin schrieb: Their argument seemed to be that because GNOME is running into problems and because KDE is behind schedule, the Linux desktop is dead. How true is this? Jeff Like "uh, we cannot finish this tiny feature here in 3 days as planned, so let us give up the whole project"? :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:09, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay > > what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I > > don't know it will be removed until it's been removed. > > You could, as soon as you have

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:42, Mark Knecht wrote: > As for family members not a single one of them, except possibly my > son today could even have a chance of setting up a Linux box. Looks like you are assuming stuff up front and never actually getting round to checking it out for real >