[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: bus error during compilation of gcc

2013-04-21 Thread the guard
Воскресенье, 21 апреля 2013, 19:42 UTC от "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" : > On 2013-04-20, the guard wrote: > > > > > > > > Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 19:56 UTC от Grant Edwards > > : > >> On 2013-04-20, the guard wrote: > >> > >> > The package i decided to install required a gcc rebuild so I st

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, April 21, 2013 12:06, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Apr 21, 2013 4:51 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >> >> On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > If you have the budget, you really should invest in a SAN > > > Storage solution that can provide "tiered storage", in which > > > freque

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sun, April 21, 2013 17:09, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-04-21 5:47 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: >>> Problem of virtualized filesystem is not that it is virtualized, >>> but that it is located on datastore with more virtual systems, >>> all of them competin

[gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-21, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> > >> > Just throwing out there that users can or atleast could use alsa >> > plugs to have multiple applications. I did that before pulseaudio >> > came along to play nfs carbon under cedega and listen to music. >> >> It should be noted that ALSA users ca

[gentoo-user] kvm/libvirt and kernel configuration

2013-04-21 Thread Michael Mol
So, I'm setting up number of kvm guests running Gentoo. KVM guests have a pretty limited set of device drivers they need to support. Is there a relatively up-to-date list of kernel configuration options? I.e. the list of NIC drivers, video drivers, I/O drivers... signature.asc Description: Open

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 12:56 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Yes I can't take snapshots with ESXi, but everything I've read says > that > for these to be consistent, they need to be done when the VM is > shutdown. > > Also, they take a LONG time, whereas an LVM snapshot happens almost > immediately. T

[gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread walt
On 04/21/2013 03:28 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:15:49 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> So normal systems require PA. That *you* perhaps don't require PA is >> another thing altogether. > bike-shedding Been a long time since I've seen that used in a linux mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 15:04 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > ??? > > This doesn't make sense to me. > > Unless you're talking about using LVM on the HOST. Ah, apologies, I think I had misunderstood. Given that you are using ESXi, I should have thought that LVM on the host wouldn't be possible. Are you

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 22, 2013 2:05 AM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > On 2013-04-21 12:38 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: >> >> I should mention one specific advantage to using LVM over file-based >> images: I believe you will find that LVM performs better. This is due to >> avoiding the duplicated filesystem overhead that wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Neil. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 05:00:17PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: > > I'm on 13.0/desktop/kde profile. It isn't included here either. > I've just checked and it doesn't appear to be enabled in any of the > profiles, which makes me wonder

Re: [gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 4:32 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 21/04/2013 20:47, Tanstaafl wrote: 30 20 1 * * rootrsnapshot -c /etc/rsnapshot/myhost1.conf monthly 20 20 1 * * rootrsnapshot -c /etc/rsnapshot/myhost1.conf yearly Only the last line is wrong - your monthly and yearly are equival

Re: [gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/04/2013 20:47, Tanstaafl wrote: > Ok, my goal is to keep 3 'snapshots' per day (11:30am, 2:30pm and > 5:30pm), 7 daily's (8:50pm), 4 weekly's (8:40pm), 12 monthly's (8:30pm), > and 5 yearly's (8:20pm). > > My myhost1.conf has: > > intervalhourly 3 > intervaldaily 7 > inte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > > > Just throwing out there that users can or atleast could use alsa > > plugs to have multiple applications. I did that before pulseaudio > > came along to play nfs carbon under cedega and listen to music. > > It should be noted that ALSA users can have multiple applications by > doing abso

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/04/2013 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: > Thanks for the reply Alan... > > On 2013-04-20 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> If VMWare gives you a really shitty host driver, then something >> really shitty is going to be the best you can achieve. > > The host is a Dell R515 with the Perc H700. > >

[gentoo-user] Re: evince - Error printing to PDF

2013-04-21 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-17, Joseph wrote: > On 04/17/13 17:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>Hi, Joseph. >> >>On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:32:23AM -0600, Joseph wrote: >>> On 04/17/13 17:05, tastytea wrote: >>> >Am Wed, 17 Apr 2013 07:57:02 -0600 >>> >schrieb Joseph : >> >>> >> When I try to print from "evince" to pdf

[gentoo-user] Re: [Bulk] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-18, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> > ... >> > (i) It's a "sound server", a description I don't understand. What >> > does it _do_? Why do I want it? It seems to be an unnecessary >> > layer of fat between sound applications and the kernel. >> >> If you don't understand the term "sound s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bus error during compilation of gcc

2013-04-21 Thread Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
On 2013-04-20, the guard wrote: > > > > Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 19:56 UTC от Grant Edwards > : >> On 2013-04-20, the guard wrote: >> >> > The package i decided to install required a gcc rebuild so I started >> > rebuilding it and got a bus error. I've googled and found suggestions >> > to lowe

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 12:38 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: I should mention one specific advantage to using LVM over file-based images: I believe you will find that LVM performs better. This is due to avoiding the duplicated filesystem overhead that would occur in the file-based image approach. If the guest wa

[gentoo-user] Hows this for rsnapshot cron jobs?

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, my goal is to keep 3 'snapshots' per day (11:30am, 2:30pm and 5:30pm), 7 daily's (8:50pm), 4 weekly's (8:40pm), 12 monthly's (8:30pm), and 5 yearly's (8:20pm). My myhost1.conf has: intervalhourly 3 intervaldaily 7 intervalweekly 4 intervalmonthly 12 inte

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I'm on 13.0/desktop/kde profile. It isn't included here either. > > I've just checked and it doesn't appear to be enabled in any of the > profiles, which makes me wonder what anyone is complaining about... > > That was m

Re: [gentoo-user] login to gnome fails

2013-04-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Might my problem be related to consolekit? AFAI understand I don't need ck anymore as it is replaced by systemd-logind? I am confused right now by: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465508 S

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 21.04.2013 18:32, schrieb Randy Barlow: On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 12:15 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But I've found lots of opinions that using LVM in a virtualized environment can lead to data corruption, and if this is true, I'd rather not risk it... So, LVM or not? This is surprising to me, be

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 12:56 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Yes I can't take snapshots with ESXi, Sorry, should have read 'Yes I can take snapshots with ESXi...'

[gentoo-user] Firefox/Adobe Flashplayer: Playback hangs

2013-04-21 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I am using Adobes Flashplayer with Firefox (both newest versions). When playing video, the playback freezes often while data is still transmitted. Often the playback starts half a minute or so without intervention, sometimes I have to cycle the pause/play botton several times. How can I prev

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 12:27 PM, Jarry wrote: On 21-Apr-13 18:15, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, googling reveals lots of conflicting opinions about using LVM in a VM environment. I was wanting to use it mainly for its snapshot ability (to get consistent backups of my mailstore and mysql DBs). Also it would be

[gentoo-user] Partition layout questions - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
Next, as to partition layout. I was considering this partition layout: /boot (ext2), 100M /swap, 2048G / (ext4), 40G /tmp (ext2), 2G /var (xfs), 600G But doing some reading, I stumbled on some other suggestions, like: Bind /tmp to tmpfs, ie: tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 12:32 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > LVM gives a lot of > flexibility in managing virtual machines, so I'd highly recommend it. I should mention one specific advantage to using LVM over file-based images: I believe you will find that LVM performs better. This is due to avoiding

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 12:15 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > But I've found lots of opinions that using LVM in a virtualized > environment can lead to data corruption, and if this is true, I'd rather > not risk it... > > So, LVM or not? This is surprising to me, because at my former employer we used L

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Jarry
On 21-Apr-13 18:15, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, googling reveals lots of conflicting opinions about using LVM in a VM environment. I was wanting to use it mainly for its snapshot ability (to get consistent backups of my mailstore and mysql DBs). Also it would be very nice to be able to resize things

[gentoo-user] LVM on VM or not? - WAS Re: Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-20 11:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ok, googling reveals lots of conflicting opinions about using LVM in a VM environment. I was wanting to use it mainly for its snapshot

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: > I'm on 13.0/desktop/kde profile. It isn't included here either. I've just checked and it doesn't appear to be enabled in any of the profiles, which makes me wonder what anyone is complaining about... -- Neil Bothwick If there is light at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-21 5:47 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: Problem of virtualized filesystem is not that it is virtualized, but that it is located on datastore with more virtual systems, all of them competing for the same i/o. *That* is the bottleneck. If you switch r

Re: [gentoo-user] login to gnome fails

2013-04-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 21.04.2013 15:10, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> greetings ... >> >> for some days now I fiddle around with an issue on my ~amd64 thinkpad. > > [snip] > > I had a really weird problem that, perhaps, it has something to do > wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks for the reply Alan... On 2013-04-20 11:33 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: If VMWare gives you a really shitty host driver, then something really shitty is going to be the best you can achieve. The host is a Dell R515 with the Perc H700. Windows VMs see get an 'LSI Logic SAS', and my gentoo V

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > > > I guess that the gnome/kde make.profiles may include this USE flag in their > defaults? > > I'm on 13.0/desktop/kde profile. It isn't included here either. <> local use flags (searching: pulseaudio) no matching entrie

Re: [gentoo-user] login to gnome fails

2013-04-21 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:47 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > greetings ... > > for some days now I fiddle around with an issue on my ~amd64 thinkpad. [snip] I had a really weird problem that, perhaps, it has something to do with yours. After reading this: http://notes.torrez.org/2013/04/put

Re: [gentoo-user] login to gnome fails

2013-04-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
filed a bug now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] bus error during compilation of gcc

2013-04-21 Thread Mick
On Saturday 20 Apr 2013 20:29:31 the guard wrote: > Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 15:25 -04:00 от Forrest Schultz : > > Doesn't lowering makeopts just reduce the number of parallel > > compilations? > > yes, it does. I heard somewhere that bus error is caused by lack of > sufficient amount of memory d

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Mick
On Sunday 21 Apr 2013 11:28:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:15:49 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > So normal systems require PA. That *you* perhaps don't require PA is > > another thing altogether. > > I think the important point from the original post, which appears to have

[gentoo-user] login to gnome fails

2013-04-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
greetings ... for some days now I fiddle around with an issue on my ~amd64 thinkpad. Whether with gdm nor with xdm I am able to log in to gnome3 anymore. This box runs systemd which adds some "possibilities" to the picture ;-) The system is rather up-to-date ... I rebuilt stuff like pam* all

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: parental control software

2013-04-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:24:28 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > I think logoutd from sys-apps/shadow can control allowed login windows > by day-of-week and time-of-day, by user or group. Not sure if it > translates to the X era or only applies to consoles. This is only available on PAMless systems, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 20:15:49 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > So normal systems require PA. That *you* perhaps don't require PA is > another thing altogether. I think the important point from the original post, which appears to have been lost, is that removing PA is a trivial (by Gentoo standa

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 21, 2013 4:51 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2013 10:01 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the responses so far... > >> > >> Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use > > for a mail server

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:22, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Apr 20, 2013 10:01 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: >> >> Thanks for the responses so far... >> >> Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use > for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same > issues/questions > a

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:38, Jarry wrote: > On 20-Apr-13 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use >> for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same >> issues/questions apply (ie, does the fact that it is virtualized not >> chan

Re: [gentoo-user] Best filesystem for virtualized gentoo mail server - WAS: vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 17:33, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 20/04/2013 17:00, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Thanks for the responses so far... >> >> Another question - are there any caveats as to which filesystem to use >> for a mail server, for virtualized systems? Ir do the same >> issues/questions apply (ie,

Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices

2013-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:06, Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Apr 19, 2013 11:14 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote:i >> Pandu. >> >> Do you still use xend on your Xen hosts? >> I thought that was deprecated? >> > > Ah, sorry. What I meant was xstools daemon. It's necessary to properly > monitor Linux PV guests