Re: [gentoo-user] media-libs/harfbuzz-0.9.23::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2014-01-26 Thread Tamer Higazi
I don't know why, but I did a complete @system @world profile update and everything got solved by itself. Still, thanks a lot! Tamer Am 09.01.2014 03:30, schrieb Tom Wijsman: > On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 03:06:05 +0100 Tamer Higazi > wrote: > >> tried to merge libreoffice-bin, and the dependency f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 22:44, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: > Just my $.02: > > I don't fit into the category of those who 'need' Gentoo. I simply find it > the most coherent distro out there. Ah, but you *are* one of those who need Gentoo. It floats your boat, it satisfies your need to tinker and know what's

Re: [gentoo-user] tmpfs for portage: how much?

2014-01-26 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/01/14 08:34, Jarry wrote: > Jarry wrote: > >>> I would like to use tmpfs for all the package-compilation to spare my >>> SSD from too many writing-cycles, but I can not guess how much do I >>> need. I'm rather limited with RAM, if I use mor

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to keyword a whole overlay as ~arch ?

2014-01-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/26/2014 05:12 PM, Thanasis wrote: > I am following stable (ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"). > In order to install the "mate" desktop I need to install the mate > overlay and keyword all its packages as ~amd64. > Is there a way to do it easily for the whole overlay? > Yep, you just need to know the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
PS. > +1 +1 +1 > > PLEASE do NOT start with USE="-*" > You end up having to pick up the pieces on your own. If you want to have a sane but minimal set of useflags to start with, the recommendation is to use the main profile, e.g. for amd64 default/linux/amd64/13.0 The desktop profiles as e.g.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 27. Januar 2014, 00:26:19 schrieb William Hubbs: > No, starting with USE="-*" is very dangerous. It is not recommended nor > supported, in any setup, by the dev community. If you do it, you are > solely responsible for your system and you get to keep the broken pieces > when things do no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 07:41:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote: > Starting with USE="-*" on a server (which is a sane thing to do) has > become a lot more difficult as well. No, starting with USE="-*" is very dangerous. It is not recommended nor supported, in any setup, by the dev community. If you do i

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to keyword a whole overlay as ~arch ?

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/01/2014 00:12, Thanasis wrote: > I am following stable (ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"). > In order to install the "mate" desktop I need to install the mate > overlay and keyword all its packages as ~amd64. > Is there a way to do it easily for the whole overlay? As far as I'm aware, this is not par

[gentoo-user] systemd discussion? watch this ...

2014-01-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-97qqUHwzGM Just to share with you ... Stefan (only saw ~9min of it until now)

[gentoo-user] Is there a way to keyword a whole overlay as ~arch ?

2014-01-26 Thread Thanasis
I am following stable (ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"). In order to install the "mate" desktop I need to install the mate overlay and keyword all its packages as ~amd64. Is there a way to do it easily for the whole overlay?

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 21:28:55 I wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 20:13:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Uncomment this line in /etc/default/grub > > > > #GRUB_TERMINAL=console > > Thanks, but I'm using a manually written grub.cfg, so I need to find out > what that definition translates to. I'm searchin

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > properly; now all I need to do is make grub use the plain old 80x25 > > Thanks, but I'm using a manually written grub.cfg Then it is completely trivial: Just do *not* insert code which sets graphics like insmod {vga,vbe,gfxterm}, loadfont unicode, terminal_output gfxter

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 Jan 2014 20:13:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:08:49 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Yes, that does enable all the line-drawing characters to be displayed > > properly; now all I need to do is make grub use the plain old 80x25 > > line display instead of the frame buf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread ny6p01
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 09:22:08PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I agree with some points and not so much on others. > > Gentoo has always targeted itself at a select bunch of users - those > with large amounts of clue who have tried and failed to get binary > distros to do what they want but can

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:08:49 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Yes, that does enable all the line-drawing characters to be displayed > properly; now all I need to do is make grub use the plain old 80x25 > line display instead of the frame buffer. Uncomment this line in /etc/default/grub #GRUB_TERM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 26/01/2014 21:29, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 26.01.2014 19:04, schrieb hasufell: >>> So, not sure where your optimism comes from. But... some devs are >>> interested in starting from scratch or picking up pkgcore (which would >>> be the most s

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 Jan 2014 12:22:27 Mike Gilbert wrote: > grub2 is able to load any font you like; you just need to convert it > to "pf2" format using the grub-mkfont utility. You may need to enable > the truetype use flag to get that installed. > > By default, it provides a font called "unifont", w

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:42:21 -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: > I have heard good things about extlinux. > > http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/EXTLINUX Ah yes, the bootloader for people that hate reading docs. I battled with syslinux n DVDs for quite a while, but ended up switching to using GRUB2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 21:28, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> So I dunno, it's annoying to have to wait, but it also prevents a lot of >> > wasted time by doing what software can do so well - detecting dependency >> > issues. >> > >> > >> > > I disagree with you here. You still get a lot of unresolved blocke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 21:29, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 26.01.2014 19:04, schrieb hasufell: >> So, not sure where your optimism comes from. But... some devs are >> interested in starting from scratch or picking up pkgcore (which would >> be the most sane thing to do IMO). > > please do. Please pleas

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.01.2014 19:04, schrieb hasufell: > So, not sure where your optimism comes from. But... some devs are > interested in starting from scratch or picking up pkgcore (which would > be the most sane thing to do IMO). please do. Please please pretty please.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.01.2014 18:42, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > On 26/01/2014 17:24, eroen wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:43 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >>> Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made >>> "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It >>> us

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 20:41, hasufell wrote: > My pessimism comes from the fact that I wasn't able to communicate to > any1 in real life that gentoo and especially portage have a positive > usability score. Especially to those who have tried it once. As > someone who knows the internals and doesn't read po

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/2014 07:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 26/01/2014 20:04, hasufell wrote: >> So, not sure where your optimism comes from. > > > It comes from watching what happens at the end of running emerge, > don't read any more into it than that. Espec

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 20:04, hasufell wrote: > So, not sure where your optimism comes from. It comes from watching what happens at the end of running emerge, don't read any more into it than that. Especially not optimism, I think you might be projecting your own frustrations. A couple of years ago I use

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread covici
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made > "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It > used to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only to tell me > that there's nothing to update. And it does that every time,

[gentoo-user] Re: xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-26 Thread James
Volker Armin Hemmann googlemail.com> writes: > you know - I don't give a rat's ass about 'pig' or not, because: > I have enough ram. Ram is cheap. 16gb of DDR 1600 ECC costs what? 160€? > Cheap. zfs eats so much, the amount KDE is using is negligible. > At the moment I run one firefox instance

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/2014 06:42 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 26/01/2014 17:24, eroen wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:43 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >>> Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have >>> made "emerge -uDN @world" perf

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.01.2014 17:15, schrieb hasufell: > On 01/26/2014 05:06 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: >> Downsides: >> - emerging pypy takes forever and uses a lot of memory >> - userfetch and userpriv don't work >> > > > It also regularly causes segfaults. > > hasufell: yeah, I get random segfaults with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/01/2014 17:24, eroen wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:43 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras > wrote: >> Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made >> "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It >> used to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes on

Re: [gentoo-user] xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 26.01.2014 17:52, schrieb James: > Ok, > > So, as a old fart, I got tired of KDE and never really liked gnome. > I have found new life in LXDE; spartan, but learning and document > how things work on gentoo, is hopefully something I have to only > do once. > > I have my lxde/openbox environment

[gentoo-user] xterms --featureRICH --suggestions?

2014-01-26 Thread James
Ok, So, as a old fart, I got tired of KDE and never really liked gnome. I have found new life in LXDE; spartan, but learning and document how things work on gentoo, is hopefully something I have to only do once. I have my lxde/openbox environment mostly setup. One thing I miss is feature rich tab

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread hasufell
On 01/26/2014 05:06 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Downsides: > - emerging pypy takes forever and uses a lot of memory > - userfetch and userpriv don't work > It also regularly causes segfaults. hasufell: yeah, I get random segfaults with pypy also (always seems to be in libc iirc)

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.01.2014 15:35, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made > "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It used > to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only to tell me that > there's nothing to update. And it d

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Mariusz Ceier
No, it's not just you, running "emerge -uNDvp world" takes slightly over 18 minutes on my laptop (i5 M 430 @ 2.27GHz) - and when there was lot to update I had to wait over 1hr to just get the list of packages. I wonder if there's some profiling tool for portage. Also: time FEATURES=-xattr emerge o

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread James
Mick gmail.com> writes: > > PS, your not alone is frustration and less than ideal (er_shit) > > configuration experiences. > There was some frustration when grub2 would complain when I tried to > install it in a partition boot record, rather than the MBR that > *buntu wanted. The handboo

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread eroen
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 07:09:49 -0800, Greg Turner wrote: >It would help if there were some decent way to get some statistics >about where portage is spending all its time (especially, I suspect, >within the bash code, but the python level would also be interesting >to analyse). Anyone know of a goo

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread eroen
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:35:43 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made >"emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It >used to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only to tell me >that there's nothing to updat

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Greg Turner
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made "emerge > -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It used to take > seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only to tell me that there's nothing > to updat

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Remy Blank
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Is it just me? No, I observe the same symptoms here. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/2014 03:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have > made "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than > before. It used to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only > to

[gentoo-user] Portage performance dropped considerably

2014-01-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Anyone else noticed this yet? Some portage update seems to have made "emerge -uDN @world" perform about 10 times slower than before. It used to take seconds, now it takes about 4 minutes only to tell me that there's nothing to update. And it does that every time, even directly in succession and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and softlevels

2014-01-26 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Jan 2014 19:32:16 James wrote: > What we need is some "dumbed_down" documents for the over 50 crowd, > because, like you, I'm tired of fixing things that were solved, > decades ago. :-)) > Closely intertwined with grub2 issues are UUIDs, (U)EFI, fstab stratigies, > gpt formating

[gentoo-user] Re: cdnpayroll.py

2014-01-26 Thread eroen
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:10:49 -0700, Joseph wrote: > On 01/25/14 14:21, David Abbott wrote: > >On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Joseph wrote: > >> File "./cdnpayroll.py", line 1328 > >> ^ > >> SyntaxError: EOF while scanning triple-quoted string literal > > > >Try changing the shebang from:

Re: [gentoo-user] g++ -fnothrow-opt

2014-01-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 22.01.2014 18:42, schrieb Florian Philipp: > Hi list! > > I'm wondering if anyone tried setting -fnothrow-opt as a CXX_FLAG in > make.conf? > > It makes C++ throw() statements behave like C++11 nothrow. This could > have measurable performance benefits and will reduce code size. The only > dow