Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.08.2014 16:30, schrieb behrouz khosravi: > Hello everybody. > I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages > very frequently. > Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, > so when I install something I wont be warned that some of my package

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread Facundo Curti
ok :P Thank you! 2014-08-01 21:30 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : > On 2 August 2014 02:17:28 CEST, Facundo Curti wrote: >>2014-08-01 21:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : >>> On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti >>wrote: 2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : > On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 C

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 2 August 2014 02:17:28 CEST, Facundo Curti wrote: >2014-08-01 21:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : >> On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti >wrote: >>>2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller >>> wrote: > >On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:46:00 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: > >Sorry; I almost missed this. Actually systemd-nspawn does much more >than chroot'ing and bind-mounting some dirs; it also runs the >container in its own namespace. And it can add virtual networking a >lot more stuff. See [1] for detai

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:44:11 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:39 PM, J. Roeleveld >wrote: >> On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: >>>On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés > >>>wrote: On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread Facundo Curti
2014-08-01 21:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : > On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti wrote: >>2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : >>> On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller >> wrote: On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti >> wrote: > include/trace/event

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 2 August 2014 01:00:34 CEST, Facundo Curti wrote: >2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : >> On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller > wrote: >>> >>>On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti > >>>wrote: >>> include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: se declaró ‘struct addres

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: > >> It has been a good while since I used this. So, make sure it makes >> sense to you before trying this. This may not work if something has >> changed in the past several years. Use with caution if at all. >> >> This is a lit

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 08/01/2014 01:19 PM, behrouz khosravi wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I >> want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. >> > > Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean wont remove

Re: [gentoo-user] can't launch skype...

2014-08-01 Thread Mick
On Friday 01 Aug 2014 21:13:07 Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > > Totally strange, I have merged (previous) and now the least version. But > I cannot execute skype. > When I say: "whereis skype" I get the result: > > skype: /usr/share/skype > > tamer@tux /opt/jitsi $ ls -lA /usr/share/skype/ >

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread Facundo Curti
2014-08-01 18:33 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld : > On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller > wrote: >> >>On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti >>wrote: >> >>> include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: se declaró ‘struct >>> address_space’ dentro de la lista de parámetros [activado por >>def

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Badblocks on my harddisk

2014-08-01 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 5:58 pm, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:13:25AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >> In the meanwhile I found ddrescue... :) >> >> It took me five hours to copy the disk (1T) binaryly (this word looks >> wrong...) > > hm... not a native speak

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
J. Roeleveld wrote: >>https://github.com/vaeth/schedule/ > > What are the features it currently has already This is hard to answer, since at a first glance the whole thing does not even look like a scheduler: It looks more like a means to communicate with some server, but after the discussions in

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:39 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" >> wrote: >>>On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>>wrote: On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrot

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:39 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" > wrote: >>On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >>wrote: >>> On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: >Pet

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:33:05 CEST, "Canek Peláez Valdés" wrote: >On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés >wrote: >> On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >>> >>> On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: >>> >Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> >> On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wr

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >> >> On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: >> >Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: >> >> >> >>> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build pack

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:12:23 CEST, Stroller wrote: > >On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti >wrote: > >> include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: se declaró ‘struct >> address_space’ dentro de la lista de parámetros [activado por >defecto] >> include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: su

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Aug 1, 2014 3:46 PM, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: > >Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: > >> > >>> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other > >boxes on > >>> the LAN. So far, I haven't worked o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 23:02:11 CEST, Martin Vaeth wrote: >Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> But cron has only one event trigger: wall-clock time. And it's a very >> blunt weapon. I'm looking for recommendations of alternative >schedulers >> that satisfy real-world business needs that need some other event >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 20:17:05 CEST, James wrote: >Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > >> New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from >> 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to >all >> ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs that may or may not >> clobber

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:32:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: >Hi, > >Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it >on Gentoo before putting it in production :-) > >New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from >5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the sol

Re: [gentoo-user] Cant compile Openvz sources

2014-08-01 Thread Stroller
On Thu, 31 July 2014, at 12:49 am, Facundo Curti wrote: > include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: se declaró ‘struct > address_space’ dentro de la lista de parámetros [activado por defecto] > include/trace/events/kmem.h:528:1: aviso: su ámbito es solamente esta > definición o declaración, lo c

Re: Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Mick
On Friday 01 Aug 2014 18:15:12 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:12:06 +0300 > From: Alexander Kapshuk > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > But cron has only one event trigger: wall-clock time. And it's a very > blunt weapon. I'm looking for recommendations of alternative schedulers > that satisfy real-world business needs that need some other event > trigger than what the time is right now. I had a similar n

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:22:44 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 01/08/2014 14:44, Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. >>> >>> This is on a bus... >> >> Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't consider that >possibility... ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:19:49 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 01/08/2014 13:53, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00:11 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >>> > On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel >> >> >>> >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 19:14:08 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 01/08/2014 10:07, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 >> >>> >> >>> "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >> >>> > On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: >> >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 14:44:06 CEST, Tanstaafl wrote: >On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. >> >> This is on a bus... > >Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't consider that possibility... >;) I have 2 options to get to my current customer: -

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 15:28:01 CEST, Dale wrote: >Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: >> >>> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other >boxes on >>> the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate >/etc/mtab with >>> in each chroot. I

Re: [gentoo-user] can't launch skype...

2014-08-01 Thread kirimaks
check it: ~ # equery files skype On 08/02/2014 12:13 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > > Totally strange, I have merged (previous) and now the least version. But > I cannot execute skype. > When I say: "whereis skype" I get the result: > > skype: /usr/share/skype > > tamer@tux /opt/jitsi $ l

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 August 2014 21:32:54 CEST, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 14:07:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other >boxes >> on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should >> populate /etc/mtab with in each chroot. Is it e

Re: [gentoo-user] can't launch skype...

2014-08-01 Thread Viktar Patotski
Hi, I had the same problem. Managed to solve it following way: 1. make sure that skype process not running 2. Backup your ~home/.skype and than delete it. 3. Start skype normally. This way you loose all history which was stored on your PC, but skype runs normally. You can restore chats history fro

Re: [gentoo-user] can't launch skype...

2014-08-01 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > > Totally strange, I have merged (previous) and now the least version. But > I cannot execute skype. > When I say: "whereis skype" I get the result: > > skype: /usr/share/skype > Not sure what your issue is exactly (path?) but the

[gentoo-user] can't launch skype...

2014-08-01 Thread Tamer Higazi
Hi people! Totally strange, I have merged (previous) and now the least version. But I cannot execute skype. When I say: "whereis skype" I get the result: skype: /usr/share/skype tamer@tux /opt/jitsi $ ls -lA /usr/share/skype/ insgesamt 12 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 1. Aug 22:07 avatars drwxr-x

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:58 PM, James wrote: > Howdy, > > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I > want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. > Well I not a proficient user, but I think that depclean wont remove packages from distfiles. At least what happened to me was t

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > You seem to be slightly confusing two different things. There is 'emerge > --sync' (or emerge-webrsync) which maintains your copy of the portage tree > and then there's 'emerge --update' which actually downloads the source, > compiles, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 01.08.2014 05:16, schrieb Walter Dnes: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > >> how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for >> okular? well, you still have all of qt... and kdelibs and phonon... but >> you would loose a lot of the other

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:58:33 + (UTC), James wrote: > Other suggestions to keep the kernel sources around ? Put this is /etc/portage/sets.conf [kernels] class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet world-candidate = False files = /usr/src -- Neil Bothwick Things which must be shipped together as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 01/08/2014 20:17, James wrote: > > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > > > > >> New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from > >> 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to all > >> ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs tha

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 14:07:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes > on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should > populate /etc/mtab with in each chroot. Is it enough to "grep > ext4 /etc/mtab > /mnt/chroot/etc/mtab"? Tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 20:17, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > >> New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from >> 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to all >> ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs that may or may not >> clobber each othe

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 19:50, Сергей wrote: > Also you can have a look at anacron. > > > Unfortunately, anacron doesn't suit my needs at all. Here's how anacron works: this bunch of job will all happen today regardless of what time it is. That's not what I need, I need something that has very little t

[gentoo-user] Re: Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from > 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to all > ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs that may or may not > clobber each other's work, may or may not work at all, and im

[gentoo-user] Re: --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I > > want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. > put gentoo-sources in world, you then always get the latest. > test each one , decide which are worth keeping. Let's say for argument > that is

[gentoo-user] Recommendations for scheduler

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi, Up-front disclaimer: Mostly [OT] post. But at least I'll test drive it on Gentoo before putting it in production :-) New job, new environment. Existing persons suffer from 5-year-old-with-a-hammer syndrome and assume cron is the solution to all ills. Result: a towering edifice of cron jobs th

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 14:44, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. >> >> This is on a bus... > > Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't consider that possibility... ;) > > > Bus, bus? What is this conveyance of which you spe

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 13:53, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00:11 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> > On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel > > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper sol

Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Original Message Subject:Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:12:06 +0300 From: Alexander Kapshuk To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM, James wrote: > Howdy, > > I know I can use this option to protect kernel s

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 10:07, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 > >> > >> "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > >> > On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: > >> > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 > >> > > > >> > >Alec Ten H

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 18:58, James wrote: > Howdy, > > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I > want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. > > > However, I use to just manually edit the world file and > explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep. > This does

Re: [gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 08/01/2014 07:58 PM, James wrote: > Howdy, > > I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I > want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. > > > However, I use to just manually edit the world file and > explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep. > This does

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 16:30, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Hello everybody. > I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages > very frequently. > Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, > so when I install something I wont be warned that some of my packages

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:30 AM, behrouz khosravi wrote: > Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, > so when I install something I wont be warned that some of my packages > are outdated? > In this manner I wont need to mask my packages, to prevent them from > updating

[gentoo-user] --exclude gentoo-sources

2014-08-01 Thread James
Howdy, I know I can use this option to protect kernel sources I want to keep around, from removal, via depclean. However, I use to just manually edit the world file and explicitly list the kernel sources versions I wanted to keep. This does not seem to work anymore? Other suggestions to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/08/2014 05:16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > >> how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for >> okular? well, you still have all of qt... and kdelibs and phonon... but >> you would loose a lot of the other

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 10:29:17 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a > >> link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-01 Thread Philip Webb
140731 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are > reasonable flags. One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon. > And phonon *DEMANDS SOMETHING*. vlc is one of the options that s

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Philip Webb
140801 behrouz khosravi wrote: > I have a little bandwidth problem. > I don't want to update my packages very frequently. > Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, > so when I install something I wont be warned > that some of my packages are outdated? Every month sb o

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a >> link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the >> future in Linux just assumes that

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 11:07:26 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > And just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a > > link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the > > future in Linux just assumes that

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 10:00:40 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > ... just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a > link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the > future in Linux just assumes that. Well, that seems to imply that you can't run a systemd chro

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > And just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a > link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the > future in Linux just assumes that. Part of the reason for this is namespace support. As namesp

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Jc García
2014-08-01 9:03 GMT-06:00 Jc García : > 2014-08-01 8:30 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi : >> Hello everybody. >> I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages >> very frequently. >> Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, >> so when I install somethi

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread Jc García
2014-08-01 8:30 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi : > Hello everybody. > I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages > very frequently. > Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, > so when I install something I wont be warned that some of my packages

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: > >> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on >> the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with >> in each chroot. Is it enough to "grep

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 14:12:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: > > I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on > > the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab > > with > > in each chroot. Is it enough to

[gentoo-user] a question about emerge --sync

2014-08-01 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everybody. I have a little bandwidth problem. I don't want to update my packages very frequently. Is it save to sync my portage not very often, say every month or two, so when I install something I wont be warned that some of my packages are outdated? In this manner I wont need to mask my pac

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the > LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in > each chroot. Is it enough to "grep ext4 /etc/mtab > /mnt/chroot/etc/

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: > >> I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on >> the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with >> in each chroot. Is it enough to "grep ext4 /etc/mtab > >> /mnt/chroot/

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 01 August 2014 14:07:08 I wrote: > I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on > the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with > in each chroot. Is it enough to "grep ext4 /etc/mtab > > /mnt/chroot/etc/mtab"? That catches all t

[gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in each chroot. Is it enough to "grep ext4 /etc/mtab > /mnt/chroot/etc/mtab"? That catches all the physical partitions, but I imagin

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Jc García
2014-08-01 6:22 GMT-06:00 Nilesh Govindrajan : > > Why it shouldn't matter? What if a package's building process depends on > some other package? Though the build process isn't for a completely > different arch, it might matter. That's my doubt. > > If you want to build packages(tbz2), especifical

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 8/1/2014 8:42 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: But I don't drive myself when using my mobile. This is on a bus... Lol... sorry, I never ride a bus so didn't consider that possibility... ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 08:05:27 AM Tanstaafl wrote: > On 8/1/2014 7:53 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Snipping emails using a mobile phone on a bumpy road doesn't work... > > So, you're replying to emails while driving? Yes > > > > > Are you insane? Sometimes... But I don't drive myself

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 06:00 -0600, Jc García wrote: > 2014-08-01 5:51 GMT-06:00 Neil Bothwick : > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:45:36 -0600, Jc García wrote: > > > >> > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > >> > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copi

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 06:00 -0600, Jc García wrote: > 2014-08-01 5:51 GMT-06:00 Neil Bothwick : > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:45:36 -0600, Jc García wrote: > > > >> > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > >> > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copi

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 8/1/2014 7:53 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: Snipping emails using a mobile phone on a bumpy road doesn't work... So, you're replying to emails while driving? Are you insane?

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Jc García
2014-08-01 5:51 GMT-06:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:45:36 -0600, Jc García wrote: > >> > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? >> > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copied all >> > the flags that gcc selects in march=native mode to

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 11:00:11 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel > > wrote: > > >I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right > > >now > > > > > >emerge --oneshot d

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 05:45:36 -0600, Jc García wrote: > > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copied all > > the flags that gcc selects in march=native mode to make.conf. > > > > > I don't think what CFLAG

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Jc García
2014-08-01 2:01 GMT-06:00 Nilesh Govindrajan : > On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:59:56 +1000, wraeth wrote: >> >> > systemd-nspawn is quite a useful utility for working in a chroot - >> > almost a complete virtual machine without the overhead. >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 31 July 2014 16:19:41 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 31 July 2014 16:03:09 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper solution, but for right > >now > > > >emerge --oneshot dev-perl/XML-Parser > > > >should at least allow you to continue building color

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling

2014-08-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 31 July 2014 15:37:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/07/2014 12:45, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > >> So on that box you wouldn't choose a KDE program. Simple. > > > > Yes, it was simple. Everything on gentoo is just s simple ;) > > > > I think this is the first discussion about desktop

[gentoo-user] Gnome, pam_mount, keyrings ...

2014-08-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greetings, could someone pls point me at how to solve this in the right way -> I run gnome3, with gnome-keyring, seahorse, systemd-ui brings systemd-gnome-ask-password-agent (do I need that?) and I use pam_mount to unlock and mount my encrypted home-dir (thinkpad). As it happens I use a ra

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread wraeth
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 13:55 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > I wouldn't have taken interest in that one if I didn't have systemd. I'm > using GNOME3 on both my desktop and the laptop, so systemd is a must. Yes, well, I thought it prudent just to make sure ;) -- wraeth signature.asc Descripti

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread Gevisz
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:07:18 +0200 "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 > > > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > > On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: > > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 > > > > > > > >Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 18:23 +1000, wraeth wrote: > On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 13:31 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copied all the > > flags that gcc selects in march=nat

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread wraeth
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 13:31 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copied all the > flags that gcc selects in march=native mode to make.conf. systemd-nspawn is described as "a

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 13:31:09 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > systemd-nspawn seems to be interesting. But will it work on my i5? > Because I prefer to use -march=native. For using distcc I copied all the > flags that gcc selects in march=native mode to make.conf. . Do the same for systemd-nspawn

Re: [gentoo-user] colord failed to upgrade

2014-08-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, August 01, 2014 07:11:59 AM Gevisz wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:17:54 +0200 > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > On 31 July 2014 16:19:21 CEST, Gevisz wrote: > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:03:09 -0400 > > > > > >Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > >> I can't comment on a long-term, real, proper sol

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 08:53 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:59:56 +1000, wraeth wrote: > > > systemd-nspawn is quite a useful utility for working in a chroot - > > almost a complete virtual machine without the overhead. > > > > I also came across a handy introduction to it [1

Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling for different CPU but same architecture

2014-08-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:59:56 +1000, wraeth wrote: > systemd-nspawn is quite a useful utility for working in a chroot - > almost a complete virtual machine without the overhead. > > I also came across a handy introduction to it [1] too, by none other > than rich0 (one of our esteemed devs) - it's