Re: [gentoo-user] switching from "refine" to "grub"

2020-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
d > it went smooth as silk as long as I didn't have /boot on newer ZFS > setup. Even ZFS would work if you setup /boot to be a separate dataset > and make it with absolute minimal options. > > On 12/12/2020 1:31 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 07:48

Re: [gentoo-user] switching from "refine" to "grub"

2020-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
ther than trying to deal with the overcomplexity of GRUB for an EFI system. I normally use systemd-boot but when I have used refind, it has picked up everything it needs to know without a config file. What errors are you seeing? -- Neil Bothwick "Do not handicap your children by making th

Re: [gentoo-user] Gobbledegook error message from emerge.

2020-12-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
ht about by bzr, which is no longer in portage. Unless you have it installed from an overlay for a particular need of yours, you should let it be depcleaned. -- Neil Bothwick A TRUE Klingon warrior does not comment his code! pgpg4iYLvRNpK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Scanning double sided documents and printing them the same.

2020-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
second sides being scanned in reverse order if you use an ADF. You could script that, but when someone has already done it, laziness... I mean efficiency, wins. -- Neil Bothwick Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. pgpO9dT_PJw1X.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Scanning double sided documents and printing them the same.

2020-12-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
df has lots of nice features, I used to use it with an ADF and it would scan all the sheets, then I'd turn the stack over and feed it back in and it would scan the other sides and then put all the pages in the correct order. I have a duplex scanner now, but that was a real time saver. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Raspberry Pi 400?

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
the boot partition of the SD card on your computer and create a file called ssh. Then Raspbian will boot with SSH enabled. -- Neil Bothwick Voting Democrat or Republican is like choosing a cabin in the Titanic. pgp1RE0xw4o_Q.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-emerge dev-lang/spidermonkey fails without obvious error

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
st try it but I wouldn't hold my breath or anything.  -j1 fixing the problem is just the occasional side benefit, the main reason for doing it is to produce more readable error output. -- Neil Bothwick My Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. pgpHj_5wrTkyN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-emerge dev-lang/spidermonkey fails without obvious error

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
a bug. Even if the build still fails, it is much easier to see the symptoms of the problem when it is not all mixed in with the output from successful operations. -- Neil Bothwick Two rights don't make a wrong, they make an airplane. pgp0XVM4dbJct.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
d file for later updating. > And I do it as a matter of course, because it can't > do any harm ... :-) Of course, because t doesn't do anything :) -- Neil Bothwick What do you call a dead bee? - A was. pgp74eqPXm6hz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
uninstlling stuff until > emerge is willing to do the update. You sometimes learn the hard why > which packages you absolutely can't remove to try to make emerge > happy. For example, removing dev-lang/python is a bad idea. On the plus side, you won't see any more slot collision mes

Re: [gentoo-user] Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
I always assumed that this is the case for all operations as > it would make sense. I was thinking particularly of the dependency calculations. That's why I prefer to use portage's own dependency calculations, i.e. emerge -c. -- Neil Bothwick OK Scotty, NOW! Detonate and energize! I m

Re: [gentoo-user] Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
lled packages. But does it take into account the USE flags with which those packages were installed? That used to not be the case, but I haven't used equery for a long time, for just that reason. -- Neil Bothwick Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. pgp5j9xtgpfYA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
d even wants to install a _new_ package -- and build it for > Python 3.7: emerge -cpv python:3.7 will show you what is keeping 3.7. -- Neil Bothwick Why is the word abbreviation so long? pgpsrbo7_tFVu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Kubuntu - edit file details shown in Dolphin?

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
can do it from the command line with media-libs/exiftool. Dolphin only shows the values here, I wonder if there might be a plugin for editing. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 1: Microsoft Works pgp4aIi8UfiHQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
he s-word :) -- Neil Bothwick I can't walk on water, but I can stagger on alcohol. pgpdUNg9s1gAH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
t into this list somehow? depclean will never remove anything in your world file - unless you specify the package on the command line, but we are looking at the global usage of depclean here. Just thought I'd mention that as there are other pedants on this list :) -- Neil Bothwick Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
list of unread news on each computer and then mark them all as read. > The config files I > do by hand.  They're actually up-to-date.  I probably shouldn't let it > create those ._cfg* files, but I do for safe-keeping. It's generally easier to use a config update manager like dispatch-conf or co

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
on, you should let it go. -- Neil Bothwick "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." (Albert Einstein) pgpnQhZgMKzjA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
a separate file in package.use, but the conflicts were gone. -- Neil Bothwick / For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. / pgpNkmJMdbZ0P.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:35:20 -0600, Dale wrote: > Dare I mention hal?? Please don't :-( -- Neil Bothwick I distinctly remember forgetting that. pgphjboaJku8G.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
. I can't imagine him switching to anything else. -- Neil Bothwick I'm in shape ... Rounds a shape isn't it? pgp13E18axoCR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
first sector from an LVM volume instead of a physical > partition? I think the only way to find out is to try it, but my gut feeling about this is not good. However, I'd be happy for my gut to be proved wrong. -- Neil Bothwick Confucius say : He who play in root, eventually kill tree! pgp9TnIacKs6a.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
won't bother grub at all. Even rm'ing the files and directory might > not cause problems until the disk blocks of interest get reused by new > files. Good point. I'm so glad I rarely have to use GRUB these days. -- Neil Bothwick Don't judge a book by its movie. pgpeYDTnWVkVl.pgp Desc

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
ally small. It's easy to reboot and not realise you have a flash drive connected, which could possibly mess up your drive naming. -- Neil Bothwick Men who have playful kittens shouldn't sleep in the nude. pgpYwcbPwRF8J.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
about the time I rebuilt my last kernel, or somewhere close to that > anyway.  Sort of confusing.  > > Just wondering if leaving that alone may be best.  ;-)  Rename one of the directories and see if you can still boot :) -- Neil Bothwick I'm moving to theory. Everything works there! pgpE4pNvnnk9T.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
sed first? -- Neil Bothwick I am McCoy of Borg. He's assimilated, Jim! pgpt84yA0tcNJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
hurt. GRUB2 uses /boot/grub here, I suspect /boot/grub2 might be the surplus one, but check the timestamps. -- Neil Bothwick Echo > Speak: "Whale oil beef hooked" pgp9cpCQFIKya.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
n definition, GRUB requires the boot sector/MBR of a whole drive. -- Neil Bothwick Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the marketing department. pgp6P9LObFzRX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
. Changing the syntax between versions could mean an update rendering the computer unbootable, which we would probably have heard about. I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive definition from which to load the boot sector. -- Neil Bothwick WINDOWS: Will Install Needless Data On Wh

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
n to put / on LVM too. I used to use a separate /usr but found no real benefit so I now leave it as part of /. -- Neil Bothwick A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance from Mom. pgps3UZKrhZW7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Browser have problems with illegal characters

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
ce to change the filename. > I have to 'xkill' it I suspect this is a problem with the file dialog rather than the browser. FWIW it worked fine with Chromium on KDE here. -- Neil Bothwick Linux like wigwam. No windows, no gates, Apache inside. pgpUlC3XQdwAS.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
t can pivot root onto the proper root filesystem. That was my thinking, that the kernel/initramfs was reading the LVs but Grant mentioned the lvm module for GRUB so I broke the habit of a lifetime and read the man page :-O "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 6: Pretty ugly pgpXuHEL08CK5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
be it is OK now, although a quick web search before I posted implied it wasn't. RTFM time? -- Neil Bothwick After all is said and done let there not be more said than done. pgplqXceJjpzT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
s long as the environment is secure. -- Neil Bothwick "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." (Albert Einstein) pgpjP2r1VpITm.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as > chainloading a "real" partition? I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't read from LVM volumes. -- Neil Both

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
needed whichever distro is used. -- Neil Bothwick Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? pgp2gNd1RtPBq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
t's tiresome and expensive. But actual partitions? Without some sort of volume management? I have 27 btrfs subvolumes on one system, but I wouldn't want to do that with partitions. And you don't find yourself wishing for more with a volume manager, just create whatever you need... which is how I rea

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
I've no need to fix it. But you can fix it in your own time, waiting until it breaks is never convenient. > Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions specified with UUIDs? > Doesn't bear thinking about. Can you imagine an fstab with 22 partitions? Doesn't bear thinking about. ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
lag, yes. I don't think that is enabled by > default. The --partial flag applies to individual files, so it may help if the copy fails partway through copying a very large file, it's more useful when used with networked drives. Rsync will carry on where it left of as far as fully copied file

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
ing to do), then there's no > problem of uuids - that's at the MBR GPT level. PARTUUIDs are are the GPT level, UUIDs are filesystem metadata. -- Neil Bothwick Stupid user error. Terminate user (Y/n) ? pgpgdbmD2sPGi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
then mount both and copy everything over with rsync. That was you won't get any conflicting UUIDs and you can set filesystem or partition labels as you see fit. -- Neil Bothwick First Law of Laboratory Work: Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. pgpW6NHojv1ty.pgp Description:

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
it. > I think the easiest way would be to re-install the Getnoo from scratch And if it still doesn't work because of a firmware issue, you still have a non-booting system but with no OS installed either. It's better to try and diagnose the problem rather than throwing everything away in th

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo and kickstart files

2020-11-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
s is to create your own script that partitions the disks, > formats them, mounts them, then proceeds to copy custom files across. ISTR someone was working on an Ansible playbook to automate installation. -- Neil Bothwick I used to live in the real world, but I got evicted. pgp8DkVme35a0

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system

2020-11-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
baskets can help.  That said, > if it will work best for your needs or circumstances or both, then it is > what it is.  Agreed, it also helps with backing up you are likely to have different requirements for backing up the OS, which is replaceable, and your data, which isn't. -- Neil Bothwick Fi

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook

2020-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
ting in UEFI is thankfully not a necessity. Legacy BIOS > works just as nice to be able to install and run Gentoo. I still run 3 > legacy BIOS systems here. :-) In my experience, UEFI systems use UEFI boot by default. The problem with installing Linux on them is usually the need to disab

Re: [gentoo-user] python2 really really really gone? Scripts all broken?

2020-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
already done. There are already the 2to3 scripts for converting Python2 scripts to work with Python3. The main issue with migrating is if you are using a library that hasn't be ported to Python3. -- Neil Bothwick Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs. pgpkFPQD0arl1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] python2 really really really gone? Scripts all broken?

2020-11-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 15:25:28 +0100, n952162 wrote: > "Python 2.7 will not be maintained past 2020 > <https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/>." > > There are no unmaintained packages in gentoo? A few, such as Python 2.7. -- Neil Bothwick "What I need is a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd install attempt busybox and pam are fighting

2020-11-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:59:24 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Thanks for the decode, I hope I'll get better at understanding this kind > of error output in future. You will, it takes a while to learn to speak portagese :) > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > Date

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd install attempt busybox and pam are fighting

2020-11-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
selinux) > -sep-usr -syslog" ABI_X86="(64)" > > The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: > pam? ( !static ) It means that if you have the pam USE flag set, the static flag must be unset. You can have one or the other, or neither, but not both.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge warnings or errors

2020-11-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
ction? Look at the ELOG settings in /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example. There are plenty of options about what gets saved and where it is sent. -- Neil Bothwick LISP: Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parentheses pgp8d3fIjUx5w.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and kernel sources... part deux.

2020-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
t and its dependencies to the latest suitable version. -- Neil Bothwick "RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!" pgpI9NSc9493Q.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and kernel sources... part deux.

2020-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
ly depend on the version you want to use. -- Neil Bothwick Make like a tree and leave. pgp59UZyV6mQi.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

2020-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
;> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:31 AM, Jude DaShiell > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> What does it enable and what does it disable? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual > > >>> significant giving. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual > > > significant giving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Neil Bothwick Exercise daily. Eat wisely. Die anyway. pgpm4838LDDHT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] use flag nocd

2020-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
> wrote: > > > > > > What does it enable and what does it disable? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > United States has 633 Billionaires with only 10 doing any annual > > > significant giving. > > > > > > > > > > > -- Neil Bothwick Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. pgpdOPRu5YSxp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo penguins

2020-11-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 11:00:07 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I see from theconversation.com today that gentoo > penguins have been found to consist of four species. Presumably using different profiles? -- Neil Bothwick "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidit

Re: [gentoo-user] pip3 error

2020-11-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
tems. > What can I do to clear this error? This has been the case for a while, just do what it says and add --user to the command. -- Neil Bothwick New sig wanted good price paid. pgp7frIL1tT56.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] ERROR: smartd failed to start. /run/smartd.pid': No such file or directory

2020-11-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
le). Exiting. Is this the cause? -- Neil Bothwick LISP: Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parentheses pgpOMJTKWyy3U.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tried desktop profile

2020-10-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
ze Code Name 120484095 1024.0 KiB EF02 BIOS boot partition 24096 2101247 1024.0 MiB 8300 boot0 3 2101248 5852145663 2.7 TiB BF01 sundiver0 4 5852145664 5860533134 4.0 GiB 8200 swap0 -- Neil Bothw

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tried desktop profile

2020-10-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
older motherboard.  If the system does support UEFI, are you > sure it is set in the BIOS? You also need to have booted the live CD in UEFI mode for the variables to be present. -- Neil Bothwick With free advice you often get what you pay for. pgpBpuQia32Eu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more cooperative?

2020-10-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
> Tensorflow and all packages which it depends on have python3_9 in > PYTHON_TARGETS. Have you changed PYTHON_COMPAT in your local ebuild? Have you confirmed that tensorflow works with Python 3.9? -- Neil Bothwick For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. pgpXLri67dCk4.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync rules question

2020-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:48:04 +0100, antlists wrote: > On 14/10/2020 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Alternatively, for more instant updates, you could look at > > net-p2p/syncthing. > > Not sure what you use for it, but there are mirrored filesystems that >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync rules question

2020-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
y, for more instant updates, you could look at net-p2p/syncthing. -- Neil Bothwick The cow is nothing but a machine that makes grass fit for us people to eat. pgpv5ZQ9cwXM1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more cooperative?

2020-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
framework using data flow graphs for scalable machine learning -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #02: Multitasking attempted. System confused. pgptEfQmlQIT5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Kernel build failing on new install

2020-10-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
y additional ethernet > drivers in the new kernel are defaulted to enabled. Are you sure of that? Or is it just that the submenus containing those new drivers are enabled? I'm sure that's how it's always worked for me. -- Neil Bothwick What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Kernel build failing on new install

2020-10-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
dels still have to be selected. But it is annoying when configuring a new version of a working kernel. -- Neil Bothwick Nothing is illegal if one hundred businessmen decide to do it. pgpyNQPcR7w4z.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] app-shells/gentoo-zsh-completions no longer working

2020-10-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
t seems to have fixed it. Oddly though, I don't have promptinit and all works for me. -- Neil Bothwick Being politically correct means always having to say you're sorry. pgp3JWdFQC2M2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] app-shells/gentoo-zsh-completions no longer working

2020-10-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
mething like this: > I am on zsh 5.8. Not sure what this output means. You haven't posted any output, but it still works for me: % emerge -1 \=sys-apps/systemd- systemd-245.7-r1 systemd-246-r1 systemd- systemd-readahead-216 -- Neil Bothwick DOS never says "EXCELLENT

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 19:37:49 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > Ugh, I really need to get my eyes checked. You're right of course... There's no "of course" about it ;-) -- Neil Bothwick An unemployed Court Jester is nobody's fool. pgpx1XFUbTotx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
t;-~amd64" not "~amd64", removing the ~amd64 setting that is used as default. The latest kernel I have installed is 5.4.66, which is the latest: % qlist -ICv gentoo-sources sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.4.66 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.4.60 -- Neil Bothwick Sigh - An amplifier f

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my emerge -u?

2020-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
--info is CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" when it should be CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" However, it is not as simple as editing make.conf, changing the CHOST of an installation is not supported, the setting is usually derived from the stage3 you started with. Backup settings and hom

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage being silly with kernel sources

2020-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
y to avoid excessive reboots and partly because some systems use ZFS. % cat /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/kernel sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -~amd64 sys-kernel/linux-headers -~amd64 Works for me. -- Neil Bothwick (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend this never happened... pgpQ9XlaGvts3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook

2020-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
able have a number next to them. Press that to jump to the option. -- Neil Bothwick How do i find the model of my card? your nick is misleading, seriously pgpY9f4OFCd4C.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/xdg-desktop-portal wants USE=screencast

2020-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
no way out of this? It's a dependency of krfb with USE=wayland wayland? ( sys-apps/xdg-desktop-portal[screencast] ) -- Neil Bothwick / For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. / pgpmv_xtS43qJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
seful. I run ~arch here, but not for the kernel as it involves too many reboots. -- Neil Bothwick Nobody's perfect and since I'm nobody...! pgp5HjNxbHMsa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel-5.4.69

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
5.4.66 is the latest in stable. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #09: Mouse not found. Press mouse button to continue. pgp9JZj6kzE0B.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
app-accessibility which I turned on. Is speakup.synth=soft stored in > the runtime driver for espeak now? Press / in menuconf to search for options. This also shows options that are currently unavailable, and what you need to enable to get at them. -- Neil Bothwick PC DOS Error #01: Windo

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
s using last time I read about > that. that's probably changed, Linus seems to change his opinions about such things as often as he changes his underwear. Just use what you like, he will both agree and disagree with you at least once in the next year :) -- Neil Bothwick PENTIUM: Produces Er

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sda=stroke boot parameter

2020-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 14:13:05 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-10-09, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > I'd say you're better off using a UEFI boot manager. If you use > > systemd, add the boot USE flag to get its boot manager, formerly > > gummiboot. If you don't use

Re: [gentoo-user] sda=stroke boot parameter

2020-10-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
rmerly gummiboot. If you don't use systemd you can install the boot manager on its own as systemd-boot. Or try rEFInd. All are in portage and easy to set up in a way that is shocking to anyone used to GRUB. -- Neil Bothwick Use Colgate toothpaste or end up with teeth like a Ferengi. pgp0VH4N

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world command successful

2020-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 20:00:29 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > One interesting thing that happened is when I tried doing emerge > --depclean I was told I have no @world file. Once again, please post the exact command you used and the actual output. -- Neil Bothwick All generalizations are

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd versus fixed IP addresses

2020-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
+ WiFi, with more configuration options. And the facility for Virgin to access and administer them remotely. -- Neil Bothwick Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery :) pgpoWy3dGvyZ9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd versus fixed IP addresses

2020-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
so it behaves similarly to your device, and plugged it into the router. It gives a setup like you want, except I chose to use DHCP for simplicity of administration. -- Neil Bothwick The truth shall make you free, but first it shall piss you off. pgp0YiftDKngx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd versus fixed IP addresses

2020-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 18:30:08 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 13:03:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > I decided to get a low-end cable-internet account as backup. 10/1 is > > easily sufficient for 1080p Youtube or 720p Netflix (the max for > > Google Chr

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd versus fixed IP addresses

2020-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
another. Or you could run your own local DHCP server, such as dsnmasq, which gives you full control however you are connected.I used to run dnsmasq on my server but this year switched to running Pi-Hole on a Raspberry Pi. It provides DNS, DHCP (through dnsmasq) and ad blocking all in one place.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
ke it as well, I > doubt it has zfs, but thanks for the thought. > I will see if the ubuntu live has what I need. It's based on Ubuntu so it may still have zfs. -- Neil Bothwick Okay, I pulled the pin. Now what? Hey, where are you going? pgpBdxM0sWJeb.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
or > > what to fix. > > Isn't that how automated installers are supposed to work? > > ;) Only after they've reformatted your disk :( -- Neil Bothwick Favorite Windoze game: Guess what this icon does? pgpVFuyewSOnB.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:25:54 -0300, David M. Fellows wrote: > Assuming the above is an accurate transcription of the command you used. > > -update is definitely NOT the same as --update. > > -update is equivalent to -u -p -d -a -t -e Nice catch :-) -- Neil Bothwick Next time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
visually impaired users, with plenty of options for screen reading and magnification. -- Neil Bothwick LISP: Lots of Infuriating & Silly Parentheses pgpIlqI967hW_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had > language more suggestive of some kind of installer. My bad, I meant Gentoo installation disc, not installer disc. The auto-completion in my wetware is not what it used to be :( -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 004: Erro

Re: [gentoo-user] Environment variables on package granularity

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
rg/wiki//etc/portage/package.env). However, I > didn't find a way to set additional environment variables. You can set these in package.env, see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env -- Neil Bothwick Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben. Ist easy dr

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @world output unfamiliar. Am I updated?

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
n its own and will give you plenty of feedback if something isn't quite right, -v just buries the important information in noise. -- Neil Bothwick Time is an illusion but never so much as when you're using a modem. pgpnX1vyMiMWq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems

2020-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
en't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be able to create your own mount points. -- Neil Bothwick If you give a man a fish, he's fed for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he'll buy a silly hat. If you talk about fish to a starving man, you're a consultant. pgpE4fLwWmuH9.pgp De

Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] Python3 emerge problem with pycairo and wxpython

2020-09-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
ou" where you can only see it after you have read the email :-O -- Neil Bothwick Disinformation is not as good as datinformation. pgpAk_rkZP2GP.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Python3 emerge problem with pycairo and wxpython

2020-09-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
ut those out and apply the rest of the ebuilds, > can't determine what is pulling in wxpython. Add --tree to your emerge options. -- Neil Bothwick If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? pgpwnYfI1Fw1q.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] ABI_RISCV -> emerge wants to do heaps of work...

2020-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
. I might as well get it over and done with now... > > Yes, just tested. "-uD" -> just updates. "-NuD" -> updates + > 290 odd rebuilds. > -u is not the same as -U. The advice was to use -U instead of -N. Both look for USE flag changes, but -U only rebu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
t; Of course it is, I was considering that not everyone uses --ask, or --pretend. > Defaulting to package 1, of course. Which is what those people would get, as they do now. -- Neil Bothwick If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? pgpa2Tg3YNUq4.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
n. That's the sort of thing I was thinking of. It could cause issues for those that run emerge without checking what it is going to do, but they are going to hit problems sometime anyway so they may as well learn their lesson sooner ;-) Hmm, I hadn't realised there were so many virtuals, I just looke

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
er-bin USE flag. Alternatively, have portage spit out a warning if a virtual is required and none of its alternatives are installed, but that would spoil running portage non-interactively. Another option would be for each virtual have have a set of USE flags corresponding to its choices, but that could get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
ll always favour rust over rust-bin if both or neither is installed. -- Neil Bothwick "I am a Cub Ranger. We dib dib dib for the One. We dob dob dob for the One." pgpaxD4YQNSwR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
won't. it's not an upgrade, they are two different packages that satisfy the dependency. In the same way that a package that depends on virtual/mta won't try to install sendmail if you have postfix installed. -- Neil Bothwick K: (n., adj.) a binary thousand, which isn't a decimal thousa

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