Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Sunday, 12 January 2020 17:50:22 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:24 AM Wols Lists > > wrote: > > On 12/01/20 16:36, Mick wrote: > > > Hmm ... I can see how Microsoft's move to cloud computing for home > > users can > > > > quickly escalate to a spiral of confusion and

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:24 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 12/01/20 16:36, Mick wrote: > > Hmm ... I can see how Microsoft's move to cloud computing for home users can > > quickly escalate to a spiral of confusion and annoyance. > > The problem, of course, is it assumes reliable fast internet ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 12/01/20 16:36, Mick wrote: > Hmm ... I can see how Microsoft's move to cloud computing for home users can > quickly escalate to a spiral of confusion and annoyance. The problem, of course, is it assumes reliable fast internet ... At home, last I looked I couldn't upgrade with my current

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Sunday, 12 January 2020 15:02:36 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 12/01/20 13:39, Mick wrote: > > 2. Obligatory Microsoft Account registration. > > > > Every time I touch a MSWindows OS I get more annoyed than the last time. > > I > > went through the installation process. During the finishing

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 12/01/20 13:39, Mick wrote: > 2. Obligatory Microsoft Account registration. > > Every time I touch a MSWindows OS I get more annoyed than the last time. I > went through the installation process. During the finishing touches of the > installation the OS configured the keyboard, network and

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Friday, 10 January 2020 18:07:29 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: > Just to close out my part of this what-turned-out-to be-non-Gentoo thread... > > 1) I went down the Clonezilla path never having used it before. It was easy > to use, cloned the hard drive, Win 10 Home (what was actually installed) >

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:58 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Mick wrote: > > > > This is getting a tad O/T, since we're talking about activation of a non- > > Gentoo OS, but here it goes: > > > > I completely agree. I wasn't expecting the conversation to go this

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 09/01/20 11:00, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:42:14 GMT Wols Lists wrote: >> > On 08/01/20 09:26, Mick wrote: >>> > > The OS Product Key for a Win 7 will not work on a Win 10, unless the >>> > > free >>> > > upgrade option had been performed before July 2016. At least it has

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Around 1 month ago, I upgraded a Win 7 system to Win 10. I purchased a new Win 10, but, I never was asked for the Win 10 product key. The upgrade was performed by running the installer from a running Win 7 rather than booting from the installation media. On 2020-01-09 04:00, Mick wrote: > On

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:42:14 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 08/01/20 09:26, Mick wrote: > > The OS Product Key for a Win 7 will not work on a Win 10, unless the free > > upgrade option had been performed before July 2016. At least it has not > > worked here ... You'll need a Product Key,

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 08/01/20 09:26, Mick wrote: > The OS Product Key for a Win 7 will not work on a Win 10, unless the free > upgrade option had been performed before July 2016. At least it has not > worked here ... You'll need a Product Key, Digital License, or a Microsoft > Account which has been linked to

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 07:13:19 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/20 23:37, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Michael, > > > >I got Win 10 Pro installed via the M$ tool that creates USB install > > > > devices. It worked fine. Reading online it seems that if M$ sees the new > > disk as still the

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Wednesday, 8 January 2020 07:43:16 GMT Michael Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:01 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 06/01/20 19:55, Michael Jones wrote: > > > As for windows 10 licensing, don't trust me on this blindly, but your > > > license should be tied to the hardware fingerprint of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:01 AM Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/20 19:55, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > As for windows 10 licensing, don't trust me on this blindly, but your > > license should be tied to the hardware fingerprint of the laptop. So > > even installing windows fresh on your new SSD

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 06/01/20 23:37, Mark Knecht wrote: > Michael, >I got Win 10 Pro installed via the M$ tool that creates USB install > devices. It worked fine. Reading online it seems that if M$ sees the new > disk as still the same 'hardware' then it's supposed to automatically > validate and I'd be good to

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 06/01/20 19:55, Michael Jones wrote: > > As for windows 10 licensing, don't trust me on this blindly, but your > license should be tied to the hardware fingerprint of the laptop. So > even installing windows fresh on your new SSD should result in Windows > activating automatically. In fact,

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On 1/7/20 8:58 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Mick > wrote: > > This is getting a tad O/T, since we're talking about activation of a non- > Gentoo OS, but here it goes: > I completely agree. I wasn't expecting the conversation to go

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

I'll keep going with this, because there is a Gentoo twist at the end! LOL! On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:58:43 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: > After maybe 16 hours it didn't activate but logically I don't know why it > would have. I've installed Win 10 using the M$ install tool writing to a > USB

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:52 AM Mick wrote: > > This is getting a tad O/T, since we're talking about activation of a non- > Gentoo OS, but here it goes: > I completely agree. I wasn't expecting the conversation to go this direction when I posted. I'm happy to participate if others want to. > On

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

This is getting a tad O/T, since we're talking about activation of a non- Gentoo OS, but here it goes: On Tuesday, 7 January 2020 00:39:19 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: >I'm going to let the machine sit overnight and see if it activates > automatically. It should activate as long as it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

I would be extremely surprised if it activated after not having done so within an hour. You can manually trigger activation in the Windows 10 settings menu somewhere, and get an answer immediately. You *do* need to make sure the version of Windows is 100% identical to what was previously

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:19 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi Mark, > was your old version Win10 PRO" as well? - as far as I know a > reinstall will only validate if the hardware as recorded at MS mostly > matches and its the same version. Cloning via dd, then running through > the

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Hi Mark,     was your old version Win10 PRO" as well? - as far as I know a reinstall will only validate if the hardware as recorded at MS mostly matches and its the same version.  Cloning via dd, then running through the re-validation checks, then making changes in small steps is the only way

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:38 PM Mick wrote: > > Hi Mark, welcome back! :-) > Hey Mick. Thanks for the welcome. > This will take for-ever on larger disks as it will be copying all empty bits > and bytes. Instead you may wish to try clonezilla, or partclone. > > https://clonezilla.org/ > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Hi Mark, welcome back! :-) On Monday, 6 January 2020 19:55:44 GMT Michael Jones wrote: > Generally the way I've handled this situation in the past is like so (this > is written from memory, so expect gratuitous problems). > > On the machine with the drive attached > mbuffer -i /dev/mydrive | xz

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Michael, I got Win 10 Pro installed via the M$ tool that creates USB install devices. It worked fine. Reading online it seems that if M$ sees the new disk as still the same 'hardware' then it's supposed to automatically validate and I'd be good to go. so far, after 2 hours it hasn't done that

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

You can use the Windows 10 Download Tool (Or similarly named thing, sorry, I can't find the details of it at this time) to download an ISO image Combine that with the rufus program https://rufus.ie/ (I use the portable one, personally) to create a Windows 10 USB installer stick. On Mon, Jan 6,

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Hi Michael, Thanks for the response. Great info. The install Win 10 clean sounds wonderful if it works. With no DVD in this machine it sounds like I should investigate an install from USB if the machine supports it. It's an Asus gaming laptop circa 2008 so hopefully that works but I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Generally the way I've handled this situation in the past is like so (this is written from memory, so expect gratuitous problems). On the machine with the drive attached mbuffer -i /dev/mydrive | xz -e -9 | mbuffer -O hostname:port On a machine with storage space mbuffer -I port -o

[gentoo-user] Guidance on using Gentoo to clone a Win 10 system drive

Hi all, I haven't been here in a couple of years. IT's great to see some familiar names posting. Cheers to all. I have a laptop running Win 10 with no (working) DVD/CDROM. For various reasons I want to move from a 10 year old laptop drive to a new SSD and am looking for guidance on I might