On 5/21/05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 13 May 2005 11:06 am, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
> > long it yours?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # wc -l /var/lib/portage/world
> 67 /var/lib/por
On Friday 13 May 2005 11:06 am, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
> long it yours?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # wc -l /var/lib/portage/world
67 /var/lib/portage/world
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On Mon, 16 May 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Bear in mind that was a quick and dirty bit of bash scripting that hadn't
> been tested beyond making sure it didn't give a syntax error. Consider it
> as reliable as an alpha version of Windows :)
Surely you mean the full release of Windoze? ;-)
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 09:42:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> There are still a number of things in the world file that could
> possibly be taken out. You're command outputs 107 lines so there's
> still a pretty big difference between what I have right now and where
> I might get to over time.
Bear in
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2005 5:06 pm, Mark Knecht said:
>
> > My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
> > long it yours?
>
> It's not thye length, it's the amount of unnecessary content. But the
> world file on my laptop i
cfk wrote:
...SKIP...
>On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:26, Holly Bostick wrote:
>
>
>>cfk schreef:
>>
>>
>Dear Holly:
> What I did was to take the default 'genkernel' compilation for Gentoo a
>couple of days ago. I'm not familiar enough with the distribution to go
>further then that yet.
>
> So
>
> So, that begs the question of where the module.ko file *might* be. Should
> genkernel have created an agpgart module somewhere
> under /lib/modules/kernel/2.6.11-gentoo-r8/drivers?
If /dev/agpgart support was not configured to be modular then it won't
exist anywhere. You must look in the ker
On 5/14/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On 5/14/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known
> > > functional Fedora X installation.
> >
> > So that config is wrong for this distr
On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:26, Holly Bostick wrote:
> cfk schreef:
> > Gentlemen:
> >
> > Here's what I have found over the last day or so in trying to get to X
> > functionality. This is with a computer with more then one distribution,
> > and the others all have X functionality. The computer is
On Saturday 14 May 2005 12:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 5/14/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known
> > functional Fedora X installation.
>
> So that config is wrong for this distro. Try running the xorgconfig
> program and make your o
Are you using udev?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
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cfk schreef:
> Gentlemen:
>
> Here's what I have found over the last day or so in trying to get to X
> functionality. This is with a computer with more then one distribution, and
> the others all have X functionality. The computer is an Intel 810 motherboard
> with the i810 integrated graphics
On 5/14/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I copied the known functional /etc/X11/xorg.conf from the known functional
> Fedora X installation.
>
So that config is wrong for this distro. Try running the xorgconfig
program and make your own config file for this distro.
Good luck,
Mark
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Gentlemen:
Here's what I have found over the last day or so in trying to get to X
functionality. This is with a computer with more then one distribution, and
the others all have X functionality. The computer is an Intel 810 motherboard
with the i810 integrated graphics device.
I can see ther
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 17:15 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> Mark Knecht schreef:
> > I'm looking at installing Gnome-light instead but I'm not clear if the
> > emerge -C gnome step will uninstall everything and cause me to have to
> > completely rebuild all parts of Gnome.
>
> No, it won't uninstall
Tom & Holly,
thanks for the responses.
On 5/14/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. I'm surprised that the Gnome ebuid depends on Mozilla. I have
> > Firefox installed. I would have hoped that would be enough.
>
> The gnome metapackage includes epiphany, which does depe
Mark Knecht schreef:
> On 5/14/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
>>>The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
>>>in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?
>>
>>Add the -t flag to print the dependency
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 07:48 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 5/14/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> > >
> > > The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
> > > in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?
> >
On 5/14/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >
> > The first problem is that Mozilla is not in this system and it's not
> > in the world file. Why is emerge trying to bring it in?
>
> Add the -t flag to print the dependency tree.
>
Thanks. I'm su
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 07:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
> -d
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
> dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv --oneshot --update --deep --newuse world
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.6.3 [2.6.0] -accessibility
> -debug 382 kB
> [
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
>
> > Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
> >
> > I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
> > things on the list.
> >
> > How do I go about
On Fri, May 13, 2005 5:30 pm, Mark Knecht said:
> On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> This should do it, but it's a QAD kludge I haven't tested.
>>
>> cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read p; do [ $(qpkg -I -nc -q $p |
>> wc -l) -eq 2 ] && echo $p; done
>>
>
> Thanks. If I
On Fri, May 13, 2005 5:06 pm, Mark Knecht said:
> My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
> long it yours?
It's not thye length, it's the amount of unnecessary content. But the
world file on my laptop is 139 lines.
> Just glancing through the file I spot very few thin
On May 13, 2005, at 3:46 pm, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
things on the list.
How do I go about this without running an emerge
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This should do it, but it's a QAD kludge I haven't tested.
>
> cat /var/lib/portage/world | while read p; do [ $(qpkg -I -nc -q $p | wc -l)
> -eq 2 ] && echo $p; done
>
Thanks. If I can trust the results then it reduced my world file from
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:47:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> >As for proceeding with the emerge world operation I don't think
> > there's any particular order you need to go in. The order shown is the
> > was portage would handle it if you l
On Fri, 13 May 2005 08:37:34 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Neil said he dealt with the pain of this. I'd like to learn how to go
> about it. I have learned this morning that I probably have 5 machines
> that need to be looked after WRT this issue.
I did it manually, editing the world file to remove
On 5/13/05, Russ Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
> >>
> >>I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
> >>things on the lis
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
>
>
>>Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
>>
>>I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
>>things on the list.
>>
>>How do I go about this without running an emerge command
On Fri, 13 May 2005 06:24:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > For example. You emerge someprog, which has a dependency for somelib,
> > so emerge install both packages but only adds someprog to world. Then
> > you decide that you don't want someprog so you unmerge it, but
> > somelib is still there,
On Fri, 13 May 2005 15:18:22 +0100, Russ Brown wrote:
> Say I run emerge -pvD world, and ten packages pop out.
>
> I look at the list and decide that I want to emerge all but one of the
> things on the list.
>
> How do I go about this without running an emerge command with nine
> packages passed
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>The world file is a powerful concept in portage, if used correctly,.
>>Filling it up with a list of all installed packages completely negates
>>its usefulness.
>
>
This seems like a suitable point to ask something that has been bugging
me for a while.
Say I run emerge -p
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry, that should have read "should not be in world..."
OK, that helps.
>
> > > with the result that if
> > > you uninstall the package that required them in the first place, they
> > > will remain as useless cruft on your system and no
On Fri, 13 May 2005 05:27:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Doing it this way will mess up your world file.
>
> Mess up?
Yes, by adding packages that shouldn't be there.
> > Most of the packages in
> > the list are dependencies that should be in world themselves.
>
> Should be in world...
So
On 5/13/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:47:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> >As for proceeding with the emerge world operation I don't think
> > there's any particular order you need to go in. The order shown is the
> > was portage would handle it if you l
On Thu, 12 May 2005 12:47:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>As for proceeding with the emerge world operation I don't think
> there's any particular order you need to go in. The order shown is the
> was portage would handle it if you let it do it as one big group. I
> often opt for doing 5-10 pack
On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, I have gotten "emerge -pv world" to where there are no dependencies
> left.
Great!
>
> At this point, before I do "emerge kde", I tried 'startx' to see what would
> happen.
>
> X fails to start and complains that it cannot find any screens. I
> Anyway, it's mostly about learning Gentoo, summed up sort of like
>
> emerge sync
> emerge -pv world (or portions)
> etc-update
> rc-update
>
> That group of commands will be maybe 90% of what you need to keep the
> sysem running cleanly. Go slow for now.
>
> > I can see there are some -dash_fla
On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Mark:
>
> I am doing an "emerge -newuse right now on the list in the order "emerge -pv world" gave to me.
This is a good process especially for someone new. If you you can stop
in between the emerges and see what's changed and what the syste
On Thursday 12 May 2005 12:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Charles,
> When you did the emerge sync did you see any addiitonal messages
> about updating your profile or did that happen when you were forst
> doing the install? I suspect it happened then and therefore your
> profile should be fine. I'm no
On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Mark:
>
> I am fully booting this system using Gentoo. I have a colorful bash prompt
> right now and I am trying to get X running.
>
> Last night I did 'emerge xorg-x11' and it succeeded OK. Grub has incantations
> that allow the partition with
On Thursday 12 May 2005 11:49, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Charles,
> I'm glad that you now have networking. That's pretty crucial stuff.
>
> I want to clarify one thing here. You are now fully booting this
> new machine using Gentoo, correct? Grub is installed and you're booted
> up to the command
cfk wrote:
> After adding 3c59x to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, the partition
> boots
> fine with networking enabled.
>
> To answer the original question on modules, I just ran "genkernel" and took
> all the defaults as I am new to Gentoo.
Strange.. genkernel is supposed to autoload i
On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Daniel, Mark and others;
>
> After adding 3c59x to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, the partition boots
> fine with networking enabled.
>
> To answer the original question on modules, I just ran "genkernel" and took
> all the defaults as I a
On Thursday 12 May 2005 10:12, Daniel Drake wrote:
> cfk wrote:
> > I can do a "modprobe 3c95x" and lsmod shows it is loaded. I can then do
> > an "ifconfig eth0 up" and the interface is up (ping www.yahoo.com works).
> >
> > The file /etc/conf.d/net has two uncommented lines:
> > iface_eth0="dhcp"
cfk wrote:
> I can do a "modprobe 3c95x" and lsmod shows it is loaded. I can then do an
> "ifconfig eth0 up" and the interface is up (ping www.yahoo.com works).
>
> The file /etc/conf.d/net has two uncommented lines:
> iface_eth0="dhcp"
> gateway="eth0/10.10.10.1"
>
> I am suspecting that the ne
On Thursday 12 May 2005 09:31, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bringing eth0 up via DHCP
> > ERROR: Problem starting needed services
> > "netmount was not started".
> >
> > I can do a "modprobe 3c95x" and lsmod shows it is loaded. I can then do
> > an "ifconfig e
On 5/12/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bringing eth0 up via DHCP
> ERROR: Problem starting needed services
> "netmount was not started".
>
> I can do a "modprobe 3c95x" and lsmod shows it is loaded. I can then do an
> "ifconfig eth0 up" and the interface is up (ping www.yahoo.com works).
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 18:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Gentlemen:
> > After finishing the installation, I cannot seem to bring the eth0
> > interface up. When I try to manually "ifconfig eth0
> > up", I get a message of "no such device".
> > So, I must have foobarred another incantation along the
On 5/11/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 May 2005 17:11, cfk wrote:
> > Gentlemen:
> > I have my stage 3 gentoo system booting after a little resolv.conf issue
> > earlier.
> >
> > X-Windows is next.
> >
> > I tried "emerge kde" and "emerge xorg-x11", but both of them stop fa
cfk,
Did you manually compile your kernel, or use genkernel? It seems that
your eth0 is not properly configured. If you compiled your kernel
manually, make sure you added your network card driver. If you used
genkernel, are you starting coldplug/hotplug at boot?
Another possibility is that you did
On 12/05/05, cfk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gentlemen:
> I have my stage 3 gentoo system booting after a little resolv.conf issue
> earlier.
>
> X-Windows is next.
>
> I tried "emerge kde" and "emerge xorg-x11", but both of them stop fairly
> quickly saying:
>
> "Couldn't download libpng-1.2.8
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 17:11, cfk wrote:
> Gentlemen:
> I have my stage 3 gentoo system booting after a little resolv.conf issue
> earlier.
>
> X-Windows is next.
>
> I tried "emerge kde" and "emerge xorg-x11", but both of them stop fairly
> quickly saying:
>
> "Couldn't download libpng-1.2.8.
Gentlemen:
I have my stage 3 gentoo system booting after a little resolv.conf issue
earlier.
X-Windows is next.
I tried "emerge kde" and "emerge xorg-x11", but both of them stop fairly
quickly saying:
"Couldn't download libpng-1.2.8.tar.bz2. Aborting"
Would anyone be willing to help me t
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