[gentoo-user] Re: dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-08-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-09 02:35, John Covici wrote: > whoosh was looking for > raise DistributionNotFound(req, requirers) > pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: The 'sphinxcontrib-websupport' > distribution was not found and is required by Sphinx > So, I emerged that, but I had to use --nodeps

[gentoo-user] Re: dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-08-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-09 08:31, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > So, bug #627244 is relevant after all. > > I don't have doc in make.conf, so it should just work for me [murmurs a > belief-neutral invocation/] And it did work with no problems. So John - your "doc" USE flag is alm

[gentoo-user] Re: Something started muting the sound

2017-08-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-12 17:39, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > (5). Postinst message for alsa-utils: > pkg_postinst() { > if [[ -z ${REPLACING_VERSIONS} ]]; then > elog > elog "To take advantage of the init script, and automate the process of" > elog "saving and restoring sound-card mixer levels you should" > el

[gentoo-user] Re: Something started muting the sound

2017-08-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-12 17:31, Mick wrote: > > My ALSA is built as modules, including the core (I'm guessing that > > means snd.ko, right?). I don't do anything particular to load them, > > they're not listed in /etc/conf.d/modules. Yet the mixer save and > > restore via alsasound works. > > > > Could it

[gentoo-user] Re: Something started muting the sound

2017-08-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-12 13:21, John Covici wrote: > How about checking the various volumes rather than muting maybe some > of them are 0 or rather some negative number or something? Also, you > might delete the asound.state and let the system start over. Last > resort, there is an alsa users mailing list.

[gentoo-user] Re: Online hosting recommendation - VMs?

2017-08-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-17 23:05, Stroller wrote: > You mentioned the AWS free tier - if I use one of those, can I be sure > that it won't exceed the usage limits without billing me? > > Linode were mentioned by a couple of people in the previous thread, > too. They seem like the logical choice, but if I can

[gentoo-user] Re: Symlinked directories and rsync

2017-08-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-19 09:59, Mick wrote: > > > Am I missing something glaringly obvious, or is this a limitation > > > of rsync? If so, is there another tool that can copy over > > > symlinked directories properly? > > > > I always use -av which copies simlinks correctly. -H is necessary > > to copy ha

[gentoo-user] Re: Symlinked directories and rsync

2017-08-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-19 09:41, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > For the purposes about which Walter asks, I do not symlink directories, > I symlink the files. IOW, I create what is known as "symlink farms". > There are also multiple tools for doing that: > > 1. lndir, in the x11-mis

[gentoo-user] certbot confusion

2017-08-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I don't understand the letsencrypt certbot renewal process, specifically the hooks. I have two certificates: one for webserver, one for mailserver. I got them only very recently so I until now the renewal cronjob has always been a no-op, but the real thing will happen very soon. When it does, pr

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-29 01:38, Walter Dnes wrote: > I'm building up a rather large hosts file, but the adservers have a > gazillion subnames for each domain, in a deliberate attempt to bypass > hosts files. It would be more effective block entire domains. Is > there a lightweight DNS server, or some iptab

[gentoo-user] Re: Why isn't this SDcard mounting?

2017-08-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-29 14:53, Stroller wrote: >$ sudo parted /dev/sdb p >Model: Generic- Card Reader (scsi) >Disk /dev/sdb: 32.0GB >Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B >Partition Table: msdos >Disk Flags: > >Number Start End SizeType File system Flags >

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 06:47, Walter Dnes wrote: > > uBlock Origin > > uMatrix > > EFF Privacy Badger > > I use Pale Moon. There's a Pale Moon specific fork of AdBlock, called > AdBlock Latitude https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/adblock-latitude/ > but I prefer to avoid addons. uBlockOrigin works perfec

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 09:32, Mick wrote: > > Unfortunately this isn't a viable strategy because typically you > > will, in a few months, if not a single month, spend more in > > electricity costs than you would purchasing a new single board > > computer. > Perhaps in a commercial 24x7x365 high compute cy

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-30 18:28, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> Also: how long is the replacement going to last? Anything with > >> flash as the main storage will be back at the recycling station > >> (ideally) within a couple of years. This includes all the consumer > >> routers I've ever had, including the beloved bl

[gentoo-user] Re: Easiest way to block domains?

2017-08-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-08-31 08:47, Walter Dnes wrote: > > The "couple" was meant literally, i.e. typically 2 years until it > > breaks. I don't know for sure if it is the flash or something else. > > It's not a bad brand - I have had many different brands, nothing > > lasts much more than that. And I don't ab

[gentoo-user] conf.d/net routes

2017-09-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
What is the exact syntax of the *_routes lines in the /etc/conf.d/net file, or where is it documented? The wiki gives a couple of examples, but they are all either just for dhcp (so no configurable routes) or else they are of the form eth0_routes="default via eth0" "via" is not something I can u

[gentoo-user] Re: conf.d/net routes

2017-09-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-02 21:11, Branko Grubic wrote: > > Motivation: I want to add a route for a point-to-point interface. > > Some examples you can find > in /usr/share/doc/netifrc-0.5.1/net.example.bz2 That didn't really help much, sorry. I figured out how to do it, but only by reading the shell code in

[gentoo-user] Re: conf.d/net routes

2017-09-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-02 21:05, Simon Thelen wrote: > > Motivation: I want to add a route for a point-to-point interface. > You probably only need to list the peer address on a single line and > then that peer should become routable. The problem was that _two_ routes were being added: the host-specific one

[gentoo-user] Re: conf.d/net routes

2017-09-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-02 22:01, Mick wrote: > ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0 Ah, that's where the "via" comes from. I didn't realize when I wrote my OP that iproute2 would be used by default, and not the old route program from net-tools. Thanks. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mail

[gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-04 13:55, Grant wrote: > ansible does sound pretty cool. I'll check it out if I outgrow my > script but as long as I can keep using Dell XPS 13 laptops I don't > think it will have any trouble scaling. For those dug in minimalists among us, there is also app-admin/cdist. -- Please d

[gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-05 06:54, Grant wrote: > Have you tried ansible? ansible was in use at one of my jobs. I feel that it is overkill for my personal use, and possibly for yours. OTOH, your case _is_ different from mine: I don't admin PCs for other folks to use. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mai

[gentoo-user] Re: Sendmail confused by network change

2017-09-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-20 11:45, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > When I boot at home, Cron sends mail to root@hostname.homedomain. > ‘homedomain’ is automatically added to all host names on my home > network by the router. It can only be resolved inside the network; it > is not a registered domain name. I can recei

[gentoo-user] Multiple network interfaces and openrc

2017-09-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
When I add multiple net.* services to a single runlevel (basic example: both a net.en* and a net.wl* service in default runlevel), it has a surprising and undesirable effect: when I bring one of them down by stopping the service, dnsmasq also gets stopped. It is as if openrc thinks dnsmasq "depend

[gentoo-user] Re: Pure Data (Pd) can't access ALSA device

2017-09-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-22 23:13, Lasse Pouru wrote: > I don't (and won't) use PulseAudio and haven't set up dmix or anything > like it. The weird thing is the simultaneous audio works with every > other program I use (Qutebrowser, mpd, Audacity etc.) -- it's only Pd > that gives the error. AFAIK dmix has bee

[gentoo-user] Changing dependencies without upping version ??

2017-09-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I think this is the first time a package tried to play this trick on me: --- /var/db/pkg/dev-libs/qcustomplot-1.3.2/qcustomplot-1.3.2.ebuild 2017-05-21 13:38:15.482740587 -0700 +++ /usr/portage/dev-libs/qcustomplot/qcustomplot-1.3.2.ebuild 2017-09-22 19:27:30.0 -0700 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing dependencies without upping version ??

2017-09-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-24 21:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: > If the change doesn't affect the installed code, it is encouraged to > avoid unnecessary rebuilding. > > For example, a new version of LibreOffice or Chromium depends on > libfoo, but the dev doesn't notice and already has libfoo installed so > it works

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing dependencies without upping version ??

2017-09-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-25 22:24, Michael Palimaka wrote: > I see a few complaints in this thread, but nobody so far has > elaborated on the problem they have with this change. The problem is that if I want to complete the upgrade the way portage suggests, I have to (newly) allow in and time-consumingly build

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing dependencies without upping version ??

2017-09-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-26 22:01, Michael Palimaka wrote: > If the only argument is you don't want to upgrade, I'm afraid there's > not much we can do to help you. You're right that I don't want to upgrade, and I have already explained my workaround for that. But that is _not_ what I'm complaining about in t

[gentoo-user] Re: Changing dependencies without upping version ??

2017-09-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-09-27 02:38, Kai Krakow wrote: > If you don't want (or cannot) upgrade, you have two options: > > 1. Prepare to maintain your own overlay and deal with it > > 2. Don't use a rolling release distribution > > Personally, and since you seem to know enough to manage your own > overlay,

[gentoo-user] ephemeral keyword override?

2017-10-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
When I'm thinking about installing a package, I can say USE='foo' emerge -p some-cat/some-package to see what would happen, without changing any /etc files. Is there a similar way to specify a keyword override, without changing /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords? Something along the lines of

[gentoo-user] Re: ephemeral keyword override?

2017-10-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-03 17:51, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > When I'm thinking about installing a package, I can say > > > > USE='foo' emerge -p some-cat/some-package > > > > to see what would happen, without changing any /etc files. Is there a > > similar way to specify a keyword override, without changing >

[gentoo-user] Re: ephemeral keyword override?

2017-10-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-03 21:14, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='<=some-cat/some-package- ~amd64' \ > > > > USE='foo' emerge -p some-cat/some-package > > > > > > ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge somepkg > > You included the package atom on the env var, al la > /etc/portage/package.* syn

[gentoo-user] Re: Block multiple IP addresses; iptables or route...reject?

2017-10-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-04 17:21, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I'd suggest you use a packet filter, but not on Linux and certainly not > iptables. That thing is a god-awful mess looking like it was built by > unsupervised schoolkids masquerading as internes. The best tool for this > is the pf packet filter, but it r

[gentoo-user] Re: eth over usb

2017-10-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-05 21:39, p...@xvalheru.org wrote: > I'm installing gentoo on new laptop which doesn't have eth slot. I > have i-tec usb-eth adapter which works fine (tested on linux live > distribution). Can you get 100Mbit/s with it? The laptop I use also has no ethernet. I bought a USB dongle for

[gentoo-user] Re: Tab stepping order in Pale Moon

2017-10-09 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-09 10:31, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Recent discussion of Pale Moon has inspired me to try it (actually > www- client/palemoon-bin). It seems fine, except for one annoying > feature. I usually have several tabs open at a time and I want to step > between them with the keyboard, but it has

[gentoo-user] Slightly OT: FreeBSD migration, what to do with /usr/local

2017-10-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I think I have written here previously that I want to move my _server_ to FreeBSD. I am still thinking about that. But now I hit an obstacle. For a long time, I have put my local kiddie scripts in /usr/local. For better or worse, they are written in my dense style where any code duplication is

[gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: FreeBSD migration, what to do with /usr/local

2017-10-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-12 08:36, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > A more serious problem is how to find all the situations where > > /usr/local is baked in. It's not as simple as grep because when I > > could, I relied on the implicit PATH which would be configured > > somewhere else, or it might not even be configu

[gentoo-user] Re: FreeBSD migration, what to do with /usr/local

2017-10-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-12 07:11, Thomas Mueller wrote: > You could possibly copy Gentoo scripts to /usr/local/gentoo-scripts, > or would that not work with your scripts as set up? > > You would have to be careful setting up your PATH in .profile and > /etc/profile , to make sure it includes the proper LOCALB

[gentoo-user] Re: monit and friends.

2017-10-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-16 14:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: > My needs here are pretty simple: > local watchdog that checks if a program is running and restart it if > not. If that fails 3 times or so, alert me. > Maybe a few file/dir/fifo monitors as well. Not much else. > > I don't need any of monit's graphing f

[gentoo-user] The uselessness of equery

2017-10-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
~$ time equery -Cq b /usr/bin/equery app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.0 real0m27.594s user0m8.780s sys 0m0.456s Has anyone a better way? As Alan recently wrote in a different but related context, surely a hack in bash / awk /perl would do better, and that's what I'll do if I must, but I ca

[gentoo-user] Re: Mutt not displaying encrypted attachments

2017-10-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-17 11:49, Mick wrote: > Lucas may want to try these settings which seem to work here, but I am > no mutt guru to know if they are optimal: I'm now a neomutt user and this may make a difference, but ... > set crypt_use_gpgme This should make all the rest redundant at best, and conflic

[gentoo-user] Re: Key reinstallation attack on WPA2 - new vulnerability discovered

2017-10-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-19 15:39, Lucas Ramage wrote: > LEDE has already patched this issue. Indeed, and this made me try them for the first time. It was totally painless and I can recommend it. OTOH some other router oriented distros seem lagging behind, or don't even have a stable upgrade mechanism in pla

[gentoo-user] Re: Mutt not displaying encrypted attachments

2017-10-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-20 10:08, Mick wrote: > I suspect something in my configuration has deviated from vanilla and > this is causing the problem of 'set crypt_use_gpgme' not being enough. > This is what I'm running here: > mail-client/mutt-1.7.2 > I haven't tried troubleshooting gpgme when running mutt to

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up claws mail

2017-10-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-20 15:50, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > In the response to the STAT command, the server says there is no mail. > > Then it's wrong, or else something in my config is wrong. > > > What is it that you expect claws to do when there is no mail? > > The same as KMail does when I run it just a

[gentoo-user] Slightly OT: palemoon cloudless, rodent-less bookmark sync

2017-10-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
palemoon on gentoo users may find this discussion interesting. I just found the key part of the solution. https://github.com/MoonchildProductions/Pale-Moon/issues/1303 -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. Do obviou

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-10-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-10-29 09:16, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Do you need something smarter? Install anacron, fcron, cronie, or > whatever. But the worst thing we can do is try to mimic those > intelligent crons and have it fail to do so randomly. That's still > your best option, by the way: rewrite your crontab

[gentoo-user] mostly OT: qemu sparc64 emulation

2017-10-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I built the gentoo qemu package [1] with support for a couple of non-x86 arches. Trying the sparc64 one, I installed FreeBSD-11.1 into it. It kind of works, but: 1. It's very slow - I estimate about 5x-10x slower than an emulated x86_64, also running FreeBSD-11.1. 2. 1 processor on the host (

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-01 10:25, Marc Joliet wrote: > It's nice that anacron apparently sucks, but what about fcron and > cronie? I've always wondered why people who need these features don't > just one of those. Is there any reason not to? > > (FTR: I used fcron for several years before migrating to syste

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-01 13:42, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > If you build cronie with USE=anacron, I think it also comes with an > "anacron" executable: > > https://github.com/cronie-crond/cronie/blob/master/README.anacron I see, you're quite right. The flag is off here, probably because I built it when I wa

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-03 02:53, Kai Peter wrote: > 2. the shell script have to do some checks, e.g. the last run - I did > wrote a small 'include' script for that Isn't your 'small include script' just another implementation of run-crons? If not: how does it handle _missed_ jobs, if at all? If you want to

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-04 01:39, Kai Peter wrote: > > If you want to run a monthly job on a host that is not always on, do > > you have to pretend it's an hourly job and check in the script > > itself? > > This is a special case to me. IMHO special cases have to be handled > special or much better: avoid it.

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 07:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > But, I agree that it makes far more sense to just have desktop users > use an appropriate cron implementation designed to handle the machine > being off most of the time vs trying to use shell scripting to make > vixie cron into such an implementation. >

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 14:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > Second, my actual objection is more to sticking wrappers around an > upstream program just to extend its capabilities, when other software > is maintained upstream that already does what you're re-inventing. > When you already have 47 different cron imple

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 21:40, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Agreed again. My desktop cronjobs are all empty and when I had some > they were of the "do this once a week or once a day" variety. I didn't > care when they ran, just that they did every so often What about the synchronization and predictability aspect

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 17:17, Rich Freeman wrote: > Distros will always have to do integration work, and that is fine. > That is the role of a distro. And sometimes distros have to roll > their own tools when they just aren't available. Once upon a time > service managers fell into that category. Now th

[gentoo-user] Re: Linux USB security holes.

2017-11-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-08 05:53, J. Roeleveld wrote: > From what I read, you need physical access. According to Solar, for whom I have developed great respect, this is not necessarily so: http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/08/5 -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet,

[gentoo-user] Re: Help...can't decipher emerge oracle...

2017-11-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-15 18:40, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Why is it trying to install the version? Is that unmasked? > > Are you running stable or testing? > > What does "grep -r glibc /etc/portage" say? > > I don't think you posted the command that started all of this? For some reason, these horrible

[gentoo-user] Annoying X server message

2017-11-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I run X the stone age way with startx/xinit. Each time I switch to another VT with Alt-Ctl-Fn, X mutters this on the original VT: Suspending AIGLX clents for VT switch and then a similar one when I switch back. This happens when the original VT is in raw mode, apparently, so the terminating new

[gentoo-user] scope of user patches via epatch

2017-11-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Is there any way to make the patches under /etc/portage/patches applicable to more than a single exact version of each package? Right now, every time I emerge -u I have to check if I have patches for a package on the updated list, and if so make a new subdirectory for the new version and copy or l

[gentoo-user] Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Package P bypasses applying user patches (by not calling default_src_prepare). I have patches I need to apply to P, and in this case I really don't want to fork the ebuild. So, I'm hell bent on doing it the hacky way with /etc/portage/bashrc (which, IIRC, I have been told on this list not to do,

[gentoo-user] Re: Looking for a pre-compiled Linux distribution

2017-11-23 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-23 18:11, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > I'd like to recommend a Linux distribution to someone who needs an as > simple Linux distribution as possible. > Since I am going to help that person from time to time, it should be > as similar as possible to Gentoo. "simple" has multiple meanings.

[gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-24 08:32, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Package P bypasses applying user patches (by not calling > > default_src_prepare). I have patches I need to apply to P, and in > > this case I really don't want to fork the ebuild. So, I'm hell bent > > on doing it the hacky way with /etc/portage/bas

[gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-24 22:21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Are you mixing portage/env up with portage/package.env? The latter > loads conf files from env that contain variable assignments. I don't think I'm mixing them up: one of them is a directory, so hardly can contain any code at all ;-) (Well, the other _

[gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-26 11:00, Ralph Seichter wrote: > Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.localnet) > by smarthost03d.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps > (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) > (Exim 4.80) > (envelope-from ) > id 1eImhw-IJ-SK > for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; S

[gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-26 16:46, Rich Freeman wrote: > You'll find this recipe all over the place, but with procmail you can > do this: > https://mymegabyte.com/2010/03/filter-duplicate-emails-with-procmail/ I don't trust procmail anymore after CVE-2017-16844. It took me a long time, I had a weak spot for i

[gentoo-user] Re: Just when is portage/bashrc sourced?

2017-11-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-27 07:59, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > That came up in the OP, but the question was about doing it for > > selected ebuilds, which is exactly what this must shorter option > > does. > > You should update the wiki, your way is better. Ah, now I see why I was so confused. the /etc/porta

[gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-27 17:13, Ralph Seichter wrote: > These few lines save you from all the potential hassle that sharing > read/write access to the same files could bring. Dovecot will ensure > that indexes are up to date when mail is delivered, and that alone is > reason enough for me. Do you really nee

[gentoo-user] Re: mesa build failure

2017-11-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-27 21:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > mesa has 18 versions in-tree and mesa-17.1.8 is the second oldest. Any > special reason you are stuck so far back? A package.mask you no longr > actually need maybe? All the later ones are ~arch ? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
This profile change seems to have hit a few people in sensitive locations. What is the upshot of this change? Can I eyeball the diff _before_ I sync ? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-02 20:14, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> You're seeing a lot of reports because there is a news item telling > >> people to switch to the new profile and run "emerge -e @world". > > > > Does this mean that "emerge -e @world" should be run or that the > > news item is wrong in this point?

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 06:46, Heiko Baums wrote: > 1. It can't find >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0 but only older gcc versions. > > 2. You have installed a package that depend on sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3 > or sys-devel/gcc-4.9.4. > > I already explained what you can do in the first case. In the second > case I woul

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 18:58, Simon Thelen wrote: > Palemoon builds fine with gcc 6.4.0 (just not with gcc 7.2.0), if the > ebuild you're using requires an older gcc it's either wrong or doing > something weird. It builds, but the result binary crashes every 10 minutes. Have you tried it? The ebuild fro

[gentoo-user] palemoon and gcc [Was: Emerge does want to tell me...what?]

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 22:45, Simon Thelen wrote: > It might be that palemoon has issues with certain > optimizations/instruction sets that are aggravated by using newer gcc > versions (which could turn on optimizations by default etc). Yes, this is my provisional explanation too. > I tried checking when

[gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

2017-12-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-05 00:05, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: > > There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use > > regularly on my Gentoo systems. These are dynamically linked, > > x86-64, programs that typically depend on various X11 and Qt/Gtk > > libraries. They were either extracted from

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-04 18:13, Daniel Frey wrote: > I guess I'll have to remember to use 500M+ /boot partitions now. Sigh. I don't get it. matica!7 rc$ du /boot/grub 2022/boot/grub/i386-pc 1340/boot/grub/fonts 2785/boot/grub/themes/starfield 2786/boot/grub/themes 3163/boot/grub/locale

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-05 14:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > [0] http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf > > Ah. Right. I see now. The error message you're showing probably means that -fpic is in effect when in fact -fPIC is needed. Quoting the gcc manual: If the GOT size for the linked executable ex

[gentoo-user] Re: git wants a password to portage sync

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-06 05:53, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > No, all machines are set up as keyless ssh - git has never needed it > there. In frustration I created keys and set portage up as a keyless > ssh account as well, no change. ssh messages are sometimes misleading. For instance, ssh would say something

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-06 16:07, Wols Lists wrote: > The contents of /var/tmp are expected to survive a system crash, as that > is where vi, emacs, libreoffice et al are expected to store their > recovery logs. The case of vi has recently been discussed extensively on oss-security :-P As for emacs, that's j

[gentoo-user] OT: git, how to compare a repo with a loose tree

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I would like to use "git diff" to show differences between the current state of a git repository and a normal directory tree somewhere on the filesystem, ie. one without a .git subdirectory. This is proving surprisingly hard to do. git diff has a documented mode to compare general "paths" as they

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-09 12:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? I'm guessing you have > some default USE variables which if removed would contribute to a > cleaner system. I just checked the documentation about udisks in the > freedesktop site. I didn't manage to understan

[gentoo-user] Why are these files restricted?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
$ for f in /etc/at/at.deny /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron /etc/default/useradd ; do ls -l $f ; qfile $f ; done -rw-r- 1 root at 166 Dec 10 16:57 /etc/at/at.deny sys-process/at (/etc/at/at.deny) -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 392 Nov 4 21:04 /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron sys-process/cronie (/etc/cron.hourly/0

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-10 21:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > You just don't notice udisks, it's quietly running in the background > doing its thing without taking either much disk space, memory, nor CPU > usage. I know Dr. Valdés will not respond but maybe someone else will, as this is a factual question.

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 12:52, Walter Dnes wrote: > My big hate is the ever-growing dependancy list of gtk. Which is one of the big reasons why I masked gtk3. Sadly I don't know how much longer I can keep that, as at least one favorite program of mine now requires it. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-14 11:57, Marc Joliet wrote: > I could list specific features of systemd that I like and make use of > (such as socket activation, autofs integration, user units, nspawn, or > the journal), but thinking about it, it's a "more than the sum of its > parts" kind of deal. Managing a system

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 10:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: > A good healthy dose of manners like your Mama taught you is in short > supply around here right now. The worst insults are stated without any foul language. Indeed, I'll say that in general "insulting" is an attribute of ideas, not of words. Some of t

[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of TLD for internal network

2017-12-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-19 00:10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Maybe not. See the debate at > https://community.nethserver.org/t/i-fell-at-the-first-hurdle/8563/4 "You can't simply edit configuration files." I stopped reading there. {8-P -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also

[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of TLD for internal network

2017-12-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-18 08:56, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > You should probably buy a TLD. (Understood that you mean "buy a domain".) I'd like to remind everyone (again?) of FreeDNS (aka afraid.org). You can get a 3rd level name free, and then subdivide that as you like. They won't _delegate_ to you (unless

[gentoo-user] Re: Status of a GIT repository

2017-12-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-20 17:28, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > 2) Although, all the ways to check it would be too hard for your purpose. Well, "git log" still works in a bare repo, right? It is true that it would be necessary to do it in each subtree of git3-src, and remember the result somehow. -- P

[gentoo-user] Re: after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-22 11:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils > > to /etc/portage/package.use > > With this, both, openrc and systemd build just fine. > > My init system is openrc, and with this all seems to work just fine. Would you mind

[gentoo-user] Re: How to harden a system

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-24 14:44, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > POWER 9: TALOS 2 (server/workstation, brand new and very high > performance - the only brand new hardware that is legitimately libre) This is interesting, but can it run gentoo? There's a handbook edition for PPC64, but that's not quite the same, is

[gentoo-user] Re: xosview fails to launch with missing font 7x13bold

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-23 18:09, Jack wrote: > After a reboot today, to switch to 4.14.8-r1, x11-misc/xosview-1.19 > (installed last > March) fails to launch with "xosview: display :0 cannot load font 7x13bold" > > 7x13bold is from media-fonts/font-misc-misc - I have 1.1.2-r1 installed > 12/16. I > can't

[gentoo-user] Re: xosview fails to launch with missing font 7x13bold

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
[replying to self] On 2017-12-25 18:30, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-23 18:09, Jack wrote: > > > After a reboot today, to switch to 4.14.8-r1, x11-misc/xosview-1.19 > > (installed last March) fails to launch with "xosview: display :0 > > cannot load font 7x13bo

[gentoo-user] dispatch-conf, the big pic?

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I realized I don't really understand it - I just repeat by rote some keystrokes. In particular: What do the 'z' and 'n' commands do exactly, and what's the difference between them? After I do a 'm', how do I actually use the result of the merge? Is the merged file now the same as the 'new' one,

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-30 17:26, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > It took a lot of work, but this latest kernel 14.4 enables support for > machines with 128 pebibytes of RAM, up from the old limit of 256 TiB. > > > On 12/30/2017 05:16 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > On my thinkpad, 4.14 crashes ... when I

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-31 00:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > But the whole 4.12 branch has been masked, so that won't do. Here, > I've had to go back to 4.9.49-r1 (amd64, not ~amd64). But now I see > 4.9.72 has been stabilised. I think I'll wait for some stabiliity in > the kernel version offerings before I make

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-31 01:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: > If you don't mind my asking, what factors make you prefer vanilla to > gentoo sources? (I assume that's what you use.) One reason is security fixes. Sometimes longterm vanilla already includes the fixes from mainline, and when it does not, I know that

[gentoo-user] Re: In search of a program to do different b/w dithering methods

2018-01-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-02 15:57, Grant Edwards wrote: > If you don't find what you want in Imagemagick, the second place you > look is Imagemagick -- it's probably there and you missed it the first > time. And the third place you look is Graphicsmagick :-) -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists

[gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Symbol: HAVE_EBPF_JIT [=y] > > │ > │ Type : boolean > │ Defined at net/Kconfig:436 > │ Selected by: X86 [=y] && X86_64 [=y] >

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 15:04, Dale wrote: > Without this, I'll have to copy and paste all the links I want to > open. That is just not a good option. No matter which way I go, > something is broken. You can write a script that takes the contents of the clipboard [1], possibly makes sure it is a valid URL

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 17:02, Dale wrote: > I may just have to find a new password tool to use. LastPass did all > I wanted and then some but since it no longer works in Seamonkey, I've > got to find something that will. Here are some things to be aware of: https://github.com/IJHack/QtPass/issues/338 ht

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