Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
I've been to Harker's training (about 3 years ago, maybe longer). It's worth the money. They use to include lunch too. ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the s

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Just stop typing. Please. Ray Bowles wrote: > > I'm glad to see we've been able to move past the last few days comments and > get our sense of humor back. Myself included. I just want to say I got > plenty of responses back from lots of you. Many of which were very > protective of the gr

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Larry Cook
"Kenneth E. Lussier" wrote: > Derek Martin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > > > > Derek later realized that this was no longer a sufficient form of > > > > amusement and graduated to other activities which require squ

RE: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Ray Bowles
Maybe, but your reaction was funny ;P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Derek Martin Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:26 AM To: Benjamin Scott Cc: Greater NH Linux Users' Group Subject: Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training) On Th

RE: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Ray Bowles
ex. ;P -Original Message- From: Paul Lussier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:05 PM To: Derek Martin Cc: sherlock; Ray Bowles; 'Derek Martin'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training) In a message dated: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Derek Martin wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > > > Derek later realized that this was no longer a sufficient form of > > > amusement and graduated to other activities which require squeegees :) > > > > ROTFLMAO! And getting

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Jeffry Smith
Benjamin Scott said: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > > Derek later realized that this was no longer a sufficient form of > > amusement and graduated to other activities which require squeegees :) > > ROTFLMAO! And getting strange looks from my cow-orkers, too. That was too

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > > Derek later realized that this was no longer a sufficient form of > > amusement and graduated to other activities which require squeegees :) > > ROTFLMAO! And getting strange looks from my cow-orkers, to

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-15 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > Derek later realized that this was no longer a sufficient form of > amusement and graduated to other activities which require squeegees :) ROTFLMAO! And getting strange looks from my cow-orkers, too. That was too funny. -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-14 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:59:31 EST Derek Martin said: >Hehe... I'll spoil. A few of us on this list used to work at UPS in the >TSG group, myself and Ray included. It was often a very boring job, so we >had to find ways to amuse ourselves. Derek later realized that this was no l

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-14 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, sherlock wrote: > > mention I wanted to use Anangrous in a LUG message. > > > I'll bite, what's Anangrous ? Hehe... I'll spoil. A few of us on this list used to work at UPS in the TSG group, myself and Ray included. It was often a very boring job, so we had to find ways

Re: Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-14 Thread Richard Soule
Not in the dictionary (or at least the mw one: http://www.m-w.com/) Rich sherlock wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Ray Bowles wrote: > > Today, Derek Martin gleaned this insight: > [snip] > >Not to > > mention I wanted to use Anangrous in a LUG message. > > > I'll bite, what's Anangrous ? > > -

Huh ? (Was RE: Sendmail Training)

2001-02-14 Thread sherlock
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Ray Bowles wrote: > Today, Derek Martin gleaned this insight: [snip] >Not to > mention I wanted to use Anangrous in a LUG message. > I'll bite, what's Anangrous ? -- There's no such thing as a "pretty good" alligator wrestler. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Rauschen

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Jerry Kubeck
me to de-lurk and join this already degraded >discussion. I feel that Ray has somehow caused the focus of Paul's >offer for Sendmail training at Mission Critical Linux to turn >instead on his obvious social inadequacies (Sorry Ray, I don't >know you, but I feel that this migh

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Kinsley
Well I guess it's time to de-lurk and join this already degraded discussion. I feel that Ray has somehow caused the focus of Paul's offer for Sendmail training at Mission Critical Linux to turn instead on his obvious social inadequacies (Sorry Ray, I don't know you, but I feel tha

RE: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Niall Kavanagh wrote: > Remember that not everyone who joins the list knows we're not all complete > bastards (except Kenny of course). [...] > Now that I'm thinking, I suppose Derek is a bit of a bastard too. Hey, what about me! ;-) -- Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Net

RE: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Niall Kavanagh
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > In my eyes this LUG has a long way to go. I > > correspond with people in Pennsylvania that are 9 times out of ten more > > willing to give good advice. As opposed to some of the condescending > > egomaniacs that par

RE: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In my eyes this LUG has a long way to go. I > correspond with people in Pennsylvania that are 9 times out of ten more > willing to give good advice. As opposed to some of the condescending > egomaniacs that participate in this LUG. Now I've done it. *plonk* :0: * ^

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread David Andrew - Sun MDE
Just FYI Sun courses are just over $2K per week, not per day. Dave >BTW: on the cost of training: Sun courses in their catalog cost around $2000 / DAY. $2000/week for a professional level course is not out of line. I'm glad my management decided to open the course to others in the are

RE: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Ray Bowles
Today, Derek Martin gleaned this insight: >Have you ever had any system administration training? The courses are >usually more like $3k-$5k. This is a bargain. First off I didn't know it was already planned and that the nature of it was a private company meeting. It sounded like something MCL

RE: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Ray Bowles
Hi Paul, Sorry my e-mail came across the way it did. Not sure if I should've sent this to the list or not. I only got this message through Kevin's reply. . I was merely trying to 1. express my frustration from the last meeting. It would have been my first and I was genuinely interested in

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Peter Cavender
that are in the FAQ's. And remember, its about free speach, not free beer. --P > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm trying to gauge the interest for professional Sendmail training. We at > > Mission Critical L

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Thomas Charron
From: "Paul Lussier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ray Bowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >How can you possibly justify $2k to any manager (or Wife for that matter) for > >training on a system that may as well be called anangrousmail for all they ROTFL.. Ray and Niall, I didn't catch it untill reading

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:54:48 EST "Ray Bowles" said: >I'm really just frustrated that we all talk about helping people and >selling Linux to managers but when it comes down to crunch time lot >of people are snobs all of a sudden. I've had 3 Admin friends >genuinely interested in

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-14 Thread Jerry Kubeck
To Ray, I am not going to address the Sendmail question as it has been thoroughly dissected. Let me explain the Lug meetings to you. We have 5 Chapters with monthly meetings. Each Chapter Chair every few months has asked for suggestions for meeting topics. Sometimes they get them sometimes they

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall, Executive Director, Linux International
Ray, >How can you possibly justify $2k to any manager (or Wife for that matter) I probably would not be able to justify $2k to my wife (if I had one), but I sure could justify $2k of training on sendmail to my manager if I had three or four thousand nodes that I was responsible for. The justifi

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Jeffry Smith
> How can you possibly justify $2k to any manager (or Wife for that matter) for > training on a system that may as well be called anangrousmail for all they > know. Who's speaking that needs 2k from everyone attending? Bill Gates? or a few > playboy bunnies? I personally would have loved to go esp

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Ray Bowles gleaned this insight: > How can you possibly justify $2k to any manager (or Wife for that > matter) for training on a system that may as well be called > anangrousmail for all they know. Who's speaking that needs 2k from > everyone attending? Bill Gates? or a few playboy bunnies

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Ray Bowles
; > Hi all, > > I'm trying to gauge the interest for professional Sendmail training. We at > Mission Critical Linux, Inc. are considering the idea of hosting a 4-day, > professional, lecture-based, intensive Sendmail training class provided by a > a well-known expert in Se

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:01:57 PST Ray Bowles said: >How can you possibly justify $2k to any manager (or Wife for that matter) for >training on a system that may as well be called anangrousmail for all they >know. Who's speaking that needs 2k from everyone attending? Bill Gates? or

Re: Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:51:02 PST Bryan Williams said: >Do you have a syllabus and a CV of the teacher? I can't even approach >management about it without this info. Here's the instructor's infomation: Robert Harker Harker Systems 1180 Hester Ave.

Sendmail Training

2001-02-13 Thread Paul Lussier
Hi all, I'm trying to gauge the interest for professional Sendmail training. We at Mission Critical Linux, Inc. are considering the idea of hosting a 4-day, professional, lecture-based, intensive Sendmail training class provided by a a well-known expert in Sendmail. Depending upo