Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again (and the evils of Verizon/FairPoint)

2008-05-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 20, 2008, at 22:33, Ben Scott wrote: > Maybe it's because we always seem to be doing both at > once. :-/ +1 Insightful. On May 20, 2008, at 23:16, Arc Riley wrote: > we need to break the last mile problem, then let competition reign. > ... > if enough people want to and are willing to p

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again (and the evils of Verizon/FairPoint)

2008-05-20 Thread Arc Riley
> The world of telecom regulation is a maze of twisty passages, all > different. Regulation -- the way it's been done in this country -- > hasn't really worked very well so far. Of course, neither has > deregulation. Maybe it's because we always seem to be doing both at > once. :-/ Bell had a

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again (and the evils of Verizon/FairPoint)

2008-05-20 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ... TOS/AUP ... > > That is all fine and good, but it doesn't absolve them of the fact that > an agent of the company is not informed (perhaps strategically) properly > about their service regulations. True enough. But

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-16 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 15, 2008, at 13:04, Coleman Kane wrote: > So, is it just me, or are they specifically picking on web-servers > here? The policy is quite absurd, in my mind. It is almost like > they are > choosing to pick on home-web-servers because of some inbred prejudice. I suspect it's a policy that

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-16 Thread Tom Buskey
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Tom Buskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As Ben has been saying, the TOS says no servers & sometimes they do things > to prevent servers. > > Port 80 is the easy thing. I'm surprised they don't block 25, but then the > problem is outgoing mail, not incoming. >

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again (and the evils of Verizon/FairPoint)

2008-05-15 Thread Coleman Kane
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 14:15 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I got Verizon DSL this week, and it turns out that they do block some > > traffic. > ... > > I learned this, after the sales person assured me > > that they don't bloc

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-15 Thread Ed lawson
On Thu, 15 May 2008 14:15:21 -0400 "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What the sales guy or tech rep or > anyone else says is not worth the paper is isn't written on. I will keep this gem. It will prove useful in talking to more clients than I care to think about. Reading the sections of

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got Verizon DSL this week, and it turns out that they do block some > traffic. ... > I learned this, after the sales person assured me > that they don't block inbound traffic. Wow. I'm shocked -- *SHOCKED* -- to hear t

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-15 Thread Mark Greene
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 25. So, is it just me, or are they specifically picking on web-servers > here? The policy is quite absurd, in my mind. It is almost like they are > choosing to pick on home-web-servers because of some inbred prejudice. >

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-15 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 18:01 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I can tell, I need to get in touch with their business reps in > > order to figure out a business package that works for me. > > Yah, their residential d

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-02 Thread John Abreau
Yes, I'm using a Linux server as my router. Once I noticed the DNS-related behavior, I power-cycled the DSL modem so I could test it thoroughly to confirm it. After that, I set up an hourly cron job on the routing server that asks the DSL modem to resolve "www.google.com": host www.google.com

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-02 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) "John Abreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a DSL connection with a modem that is designed to allow only > a single machine to access it. It worked fine with MacOS when I first > installed it, but it didn't work with Linux until I discovered that > it

RE: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-05-01 Thread John Abreau
On Wed, April 30, 2008 6:20 pm, Joshua Ronne Altemoos said: > I have read the list but I don't control what we get and what we don't. My > roommate does and I have to make due with what is well know. > > On the matter of the modem it happens even when another computer is using > the connection. I

RE: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Joshua Ronne Altemoos
h Altemoos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from my mobile phone -Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -Veritas vos liberabit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:55 PM To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again > From:

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Chip Marshall
On April 30, 2008, Jerry Feldman sent me the following: > I've found that Comcast service tends to be at different levels in each > community. I've found my service to be very reliable with very few > outages since it morphed into Comcast several years ago. I ssuspect the reliability of Comcast re

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Travis Roy
> I've found that Comcast service tends to be at different levels in each > community. I've found my service to be very reliable with very few > outages since it morphed into Comcast several years ago. I would prefer > that they open up port 25, but that would tend to let in a lot more > SPAM,

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:55:26 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > We are considering switching to Comcast. > > Have you been reading the list? Does "MV Communications" ring > a bell? ;) I've found that Comcast service tends to be at different levels in each community. I've found my service to be

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread VirginSnow
> From: "Joshua Ronne Altemoos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:22:24 -0400 > I have VZ/Fairpoint, and it is horriable I might add. > > Speeds are awful, I just speedtested the connection and got 700 kb/s down > and 100kb/s up, but I never get these speeds really. I downloaded th

Re: FW: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Jeff Creem
Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > Where do you live Jeff?? I live in Milford. They rolled out FIOS, but never > made it live because VZ knew it was pulling out. So I am at a lost with > that. Damn VZ/FP... > > I am in Nashua. The initial reports were that FP was not going to do any more FIOS roll

FW: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Joshua Ronne Altemoos
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Creem Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:03 PM To: Greater NH Linux User Group - Discuss Subject: Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > I have VZ/Fairpoint, and it is horriable I might add. > &g

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Jeff Creem
Joshua Ronne Altemoos wrote: > I have VZ/Fairpoint, and it is horriable I might add. > > Speeds are awful, I just speedtested the connection and got 700 kb/s down > and 100kb/s up, but I never get these speeds really. I downloaded the recent > ubuntu ISO @ 100kb/s or less. Also most of the times I

RE: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-30 Thread Joshua Ronne Altemoos
-Veritas vos liberabit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:02 PM To: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again > From: Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-28 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... that $60 setup fee is pretty killer. Especially > considering that I will probably be moving again in August. Yah, paying provisioning costs when you're only going to need something for a few months is a bummer. But

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-28 Thread VirginSnow
> From: Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:51:28 -0400 > Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org > > Been happy ever since. Totally. Should have *started* with MV. Every > > call a pleasure; never one problem with the service. > >=20 > > -Bill > > They do look promising, an

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-28 Thread Coleman Kane
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 19:46 -0400, Bill Sconce wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:38:31 -0400 > "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Seriously. GNHLUG gets better service from MV > > for free then I've ever been able to *pay for* with somebody else. I > > can't say enough good things ab

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-27 Thread Bill Sconce
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:38:31 -0400 "Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously. GNHLUG gets better service from MV > for free then I've ever been able to *pay for* with somebody else. I > can't say enough good things about MV. Hugely recommended. > > http://www.mv.com Another vote

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-26 Thread Chip Marshall
On April 25, 2008, Ben Scott sent me the following: > Okay: GNHLUG has been with MV for several years. We get incredibly > good service from them, and *for free* (because we're a non-profit > with tiny demands). Seriously. GNHLUG gets better service from MV > for free then I've ever been able

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Brian Chabot
David W. Aquilina wrote: > Other things I've liked about speakeasy: > > - They have actual intelligent people manning their tech support line > pretty much 24/7 My first tech support call to them a few years ago sold me on their service. I was trying to do something non-standard with the way

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as I can tell, I need to get in touch with their business reps in > order to figure out a business package that works for me. Yah, their residential division cannot sell the business packages, and indeed, are oft

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Serving of any kind is NOT allowed without express written consent from > ISP. Consent should be given in a separate service contract and should > be producible by the customer upon request from ISP." > > I am not entir

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 17:35 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, I realize this *now*, however it doesn't still excuse them from > > unannouncedly denying service. > > Actually, per their ToS, they're within their rights t

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "The gnhlug-discuss list is a mailing list for people interested in > ... all the evil things that Comcast does." I better call MV and get them to up our bandwidth... ;-) > As it turns out, GNHLUG is hosted by MV too, and... wel

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I realize this *now*, however it doesn't still excuse them from > unannouncedly denying service. Actually, per their ToS, they're within their rights to simply terminate your account and keep your money. You *did

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread David W. Aquilina
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 05:16:42PM -0400, Coleman Kane wrote: > I also came across the following "Acceptable Use Policy" on their > website: > http://632fpbe.fairpoint.com/forms/acceptable_use_policy.php > > It states: > "Serving of any kind is NOT allowed without express written consent from > IS

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 16:31 -0400, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Coleman Kane writes: > > > Anyhow, I did speak to FairPoint who informed me that I can get DSL > > service (at the same speed) for a fraction of the rate that I pay to > > Comcast right now (I don't have a TV for their 99% mind-numbing cab

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread VirginSnow
> From: Coleman Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:12:01 -0400 > Hi all, > > I just had to deal with the Comcast tech support today to resolve their > unannounced block of my tcp port 25. The first level of tech support > listened to my explanation that I owned some domains and

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Coleman Kane writes: > Anyhow, I did speak to FairPoint who informed me that I can get DSL > service (at the same speed) for a fraction of the rate that I pay to > Comcast right now (I don't have a TV for their 99% mind-numbing cable > programming racket, so I pay their higher net fee). I can als

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 25, 2008, at 14:12, Coleman Kane wrote: > So I am now curious if anyone else has moved to FairPoint, and how > they > have been doing with it. I'll be posting more details to my blog when it's confirmed, but I just heard a friend of a friend got DSL installed from Fairpoint within a

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 14:39 -0400, Shawn O'Shea wrote: > > > Furthermore, I do host my own "websites" and "email" on my > local > connection but none of it is used for commercial or business > use. The > comcast representative then proceeded to info

Re: Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Shawn O'Shea
> > Furthermore, I do host my own "websites" and "email" on my local > connection but none of it is used for commercial or business use. The > comcast representative then proceeded to inform me that my hosting > violates their terms and that I can get another provider, or I can use > their "busines

Comcast blocks port 25 incoming, yet again

2008-04-25 Thread Coleman Kane
Hi all, I just had to deal with the Comcast tech support today to resolve their unannounced block of my tcp port 25. The first level of tech support listened to my explanation that I owned some domains and have the email coming in locally through port 25. The guy explained that an "abuse ticket" w