GIMP update

2020-05-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gnome-i18n
Hello, We are planning to release GIMP 2.10.20 and 2.99.2 later this week. This means you might want updating translations in both gimp-2-10 and master branches. Alex ___ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listin

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-26 Thread Milo
Can someone PLASE finally commit/release (or whatever the term may be) my Croatian translations of GNOME modules at https://l10n.gnome.org/users/milotype/!!?? Especially for GIMP, as they are updating the application! I'm really sick and tired of trying to get my Croatian translations in th

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
Hi Milo, I don't remember what I said in September and i18n archives only shows a conversation in where you asked someone to commit your translations and I wrote directly to Croatian coordinator but got no response. Please note that we cannot give you commiter role directly because we cannot eval

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n
Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no translation at all. 1) you can always disable the translation if you find it disturbing 2) a bad translation can be improved and it is simpler (IMHO) working on it than from scratch. -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa _

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
Note that a "bad translation" can be an "incorrect translation" and it can confuse users or make them fall into mistakes when performing some operations. I.e. imagine I translate "Delete file" as "Copy file"... it's a mistake, not intentionated but it might cause a disaster in some contexts... that

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrote: > Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no > translation at all. I'd very much disagree. No documentation at all is still better than wrong, misleading, frustrating documentation which wasted my time. andre

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 05:27:39PM +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrote: > > Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no > > translation at all. > > I'd very much disagree. No documentation at all is still better than >

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Rafael Fontenelle
Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 12:32, Andre Klapper escreveu: > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrote: > > Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no > > translation at all. > > I'd very much disagree. No documentation at all is still better than

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 03:18:59PM -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 12:32, Andre Klapper escreveu: > > > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrote: > > > Well, my 10 cent is that a bad translation is better than no > > > translation at a

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Rafael Fontenelle
Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 15:56, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n escreveu: > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 03:18:59PM -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > > Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 12:32, Andre Klapper > > escreveu: > > > > > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 14:31 +0200, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n wrot

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-27 Thread Milo
I thank everybody's input … the only person not replying is gogo himself … so go figure!? As outlined before, I'm no novice/beginner. I'm trilingual (hr, de, en), bilingual natively (hr, de), with some knowledge of other european languages, which helps me a lot to compare translations … I've tr

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-28 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
So here is the root of the problem :-) You don't agree your team coordinator's criteria about translationsand ask us to override him. Let me explain how this works with an example. In Spanish we have two options to translate the word "Folder": "Directorio" and "Carpeta". Log time ago we decided to

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-28 Thread Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 04:48:54PM -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 15:56, Marco Ciampa via gnome-i18n > escreveu: > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 03:18:59PM -0300, Rafael Fontenelle wrote: > > > Em qua., 27 de mai. de 2020 às 12:32, Andre Klapper > > > escreveu:

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-28 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
I think the question about quality Vs quantity should be treated in another thread. Here we are talking about the problem between a translator and a team coordinator. Please keep conversations separated to ease reading and comprehension of those separated issues. Thanks in advance El jue., 28 m

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-28 Thread gogo gogić via gnome-i18n
Hi, to all. I will take this more detailed today later then will, resolve this problems. sri, 27. svi 2020. 23:30 Milo je napisao: > I thank everybody's input … the only person not replying is gogo himself … > so go figure!? > > As outlined before, I'm no novice/beginner. I'm trilingual (hr, de,

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-28 Thread Milo
> 28.05.2020., u 09:33, Daniel Mustieles García je > napisao: > So here is the root of the problem :-) > You don't agree your team coordinator's criteria about translationsand ask us > to override him. No, the root of the problem is the ignorance of the coordinator to respond/react whatsoever.

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-29 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
El vie., 29 may. 2020 a las 1:01, Milo () escribió: > > > 28.05.2020., u 09:33, Daniel Mustieles García < > daniel.mustie...@gmail.com> je napisao: > > So here is the root of the problem :-) > > You don't agree your team coordinator's criteria about translationsand > ask us to override him. > No,

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-29 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
Ah! here is the mailing thread I was looking for. We had this same conversation in the past and gogo explained us his reasons. You can read it here: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2019-September/msg00095.html Don't if now it's the same case, but at least this gives us more light abou

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-29 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
Thanks, but please remember to Cc i18n... You send your message only to me 😉 Thanks! El vie., 29 may. 2020 19:50, gogo gogić escribió: > > So as I read this, it seems gogo is some kind of evil coordinator dictator > who eats poor little translators. > > I've merged gimp without reviewing becaus

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-29 Thread Milo
> We had this same conversation in the past and gogo explained us his reasons. > You can read it here: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2019-September/msg00095.html > Yes, > I know that … it was no help at all

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-29 Thread Milo
;s policy. Milo > From: gnome-i18n On Behalf Of Milo > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 9:18 PM > To: daniel.mustie...@gmail.com > Cc: GNOME i18n > Subject: Re: GIMP update > > >> We had this same conversation in the past and gogo explained us his reasons. >>

Re: GIMP update

2020-05-31 Thread Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n
El vie., 29 may. 2020 a las 20:17, Milo () escribió: > > We had this same conversation in the past and gogo explained us his > reasons. You can read it here: > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2019-September/msg00095.html > > Yes, I know that … it was no help at all … because none of my