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thanks Evandro, I have read the code of conduct, already and have also read Owen's post - I have not been rude, nor was i being sarcastic, or anything of the like. I have been fairly concise in explaining the various comments i have made, so i really do not understand why you are posting this,

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Hi Ryan, > I hoped that it stopped a long time ago; this thread it just going in > circles, as I said. Person A comes in and complains GNOME is unusable, > Person B that may or may not represent GNOME (as I don't, to be honest) > comes in and says suggestions and clarifies the design, and then Per

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Em Dom, 2011-05-22 às 13:58 -0400, jordan escreveu: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton > wrote: > > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy wrote: > >> It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things "are the > >> user's fault" in user interfaces. > > > > To

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On 05/22/2011 10:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy wrote: It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things "are the user's fault" in user interfaces. To make it absolutely crystal clear; you haven't been speaking to anyone who represents G

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On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy wrote: >> It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things "are the >> user's fault" in user interfaces. > > To make it absolutely crystal clear; you haven't been speaking to > a

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Hi Ryan, (and also Tim) > Also, does Apple still support the OS9 interface? If a lot of users of Apple > software, when switching from OS9 to OSX, asked over and over for the > desktop to behave the old way, should Apple have to listen to them? Of > course not. For there to be innovation, stabilit

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On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy wrote: > It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things "are the > user's fault" in user interfaces. To make it absolutely crystal clear; you haven't been speaking to anyone who represents GNOME in any way. The signal-to-noise ratio on t

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On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:27 +0100, Tim Murphy wrote: > On 22 May 2011 04:25, Ryan Peters wrote: > >On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > >The *only* potentially good reason I've heard for, say, wanting a > >window list, is that some users like using the mouse and don't want > >to have to use

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On 22 May 2011 04:25, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > The *only* potentially good reason I've heard for, say, wanting a window > list, is that some users like using the mouse and don't want to have to use > the keyboard. In some (not all) cases this is the fault o

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On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: On 19 May 2011 05:01, Ryan Peters > wrote: I'm sure that the development and design team would love to hear some specific examples of how GNOME 3 is a regression. I've heard a few before; launching several ap

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On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 18:42 +0100, Tim Murphy wrote: > >No, design new stuff as much as you want - just: > 1) Don't think you're right and they're wrong > 2) Shove it down their throats and expect a thank you from all of them > I find it funny that it's apparently considered "shoving things down >

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On 19 May 2011 05:01, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/18/2011 09:47 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > > >> On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters > slosh...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: >> >> >>I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces >>after using better ones e.g. to Windows after Linux

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On 05/18/2011 09:47 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters > wrote: I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces after using better ones e.g. to Windows after Linux and you can get used to almost anything.

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On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 11:02 AM, Ryan Peters wrote: If we really we do need stuff like this rather than the default, some must become an official release from GNOME Shell. Not third party for the sake of end users and stability of the DE. I never said extensions were needed; sorry if it cam

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 05/18/2011 02:54 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:40:09 -0500, you wrote: Because your blog won't let me directly comment for some reason (maybe it's an add-on), I'm responding here: I'm very glad that you gave GNOME 3 a chance! It's a well-known fact around here that comm

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On 05/18/2011 08:00 PM, Allan E. Registos(x-mail) wrote: On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 03:54 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: Also, the critics saying that GNOME Shell is "one size fits all" must >have never looked at the extensions or third-party programs yet. There >are already places menus, drive menu

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On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters wrote: > > I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces after using >> better ones e.g. to Windows after Linux and you can get used to almost >> anything. I can even get to the point where it's difficult to get back >> into the thing you prefer b

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On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 03:54 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: Also, the critics saying that GNOME Shell is "one size fits all" must >have never looked at the extensions or third-party programs yet. There >are already places menus, drive menus, alternative status menus, docks, >launchers on the pane

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:40:09 -0500, you wrote: >On 05/17/2011 08:18 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> A bit late, but I finally got around to it - >> >> >> My feedback after using GNOME3 full time for 14 days. >> >> __

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First of all, I'd like to ask you to respond to the mailing list please. Add "gnome-shell-list@gnome.org" to the list of recipients of your emails so all of us, not just me, can get them. This is the second time you've done this so far, so I thought I'd let you know. On 05/17/2011 10:46 AM, Ti

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On 05/17/2011 08:18 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: ... It gives the impression the the core team has not answered (which of course is not the case) or does not care about what

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: ... > > It gives the impression the the core team has not answered (which of > > course is not the case) or does not care about what *we* think (we > > being the existing user-bas

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 05/07/2011 01:13 AM, Allan E. Registos wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is kno

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Am Freitag, den 06.05.2011, 22:51 +0200 schrieb Denys Vlasenko: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Denys, > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > > this > > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > > > You do real

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He also said he ran KDE at home and was happy with that. Here's a solution to your problem. yum install @kde-desktop People really can help make change if they want to be beneficial. Creating extensions / patches is not magic or asking too much. If you really feel so passionately about the pro

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

When I have a problem with something, my common first step is to use google. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-April/thread.html Justin Edwards Telelanguage Inc Network Manager On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 18:00 -0500, Ju

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please

I think that you have pretty much ignored the solution offered by another poster of using the click and drag method. I didn't even know that this was possible until I read the post, but it seems to be very nearly as fast as four clicks, especially if you're using a mouse. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Elia Cogodi wrote: > What we're really talking about now is batch launching, so there were > better solutions in gnome 2 and there are better solutions in gnome > shell > > 1) install alacarte if you haven't > 2) open alacarte and click "new item" > 3) create a laun

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What we're really talking about now is batch launching, so there were better solutions in gnome 2 and there are better solutions in gnome shell 1) install alacarte if you haven't 2) open alacarte and click "new item" 3) create a launcher with name e.g. "Work Batch" 4) write the command e.g. as: su

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using > suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the > kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is known to suspend > successfully. For the reco

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I never said it was. If you want a "viable, long term choice" then > I'd > > HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install > > How viable for me. How can I develop software for Fedora if I don't > upgrade my Fedora? Developing in

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > In > > addition, your claim that GNOME "gives users no choice" is > incredibly > > false: you can enable Forced Fallback mode in System Settings to a > GNOME > > 2-like UI which is meant for setups that cannot run the new GNOME 3. > >

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 06:10 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > If someone is shocked by GNOME3 or claims they don't know the > reasoning for the changes - they did not take any time at all to go > look > [so not knowing is a rather inevitable condition]. So anyone coming > here [Hey, they found t

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On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> These four apps are: Firefox, Evolution, Xchat2 and terminal. >> I don't want to launch and terminal every time 100% of time. >> I do it when I came *to work*. I don't do it at home. > > This is a perfect example of why people should feel

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On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Trying. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #1 launches. > Need to open Expose again, so: > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #2 launches. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #3 launches. > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #4 launche

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Another feature i didnt know, and i use gnome for 3 years now ! tnx a lot! Cheers phil 2011/5/6 Adam Tauno Williams > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wro

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:51, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Denys, > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > > this > > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > > > You do realize that you

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:46, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Trying. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #1 launches. > > > Need to open Expose again, so: > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #2 launches. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose closes, app #3 launches. > > > Alt-F1, click -> Expose

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Denys, > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > > this > > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > > > You do realize that y

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Also for terminal, this is my favorite behavior. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda_(software) Justin Edwards Telelanguage Inc Network Manager On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote: > Denys, > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do > this > weekend. I have some other work to do. > > You do realize that you've spent more time complaining on the ML than > it would have taken

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > > > > > Explaining: > > > > Now I need to move it

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > > > Explaining: > > > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > > > > > If I want to start four apps in

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Denys, If you talk to any group of people (grouped by a practice or philosophy) and say what their practice is unacceptable. Prepare to be treated in a way that is unacceptable. Your language came in a way that was insulting, so people respond accordingly. If this is your only machine and you

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Explaining: > > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > > > If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the > > morning, I can't go up and click

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 12:37 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2. > > I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops. > > > > Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this >

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:30 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straigh

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On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Explaining: > Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards. > > If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the > morning, I can't go up and click-click-click-click, I need to > go up, go down and click, > go up, go do

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If you don't want to leave the overview you can just drag each app you want to launch. It hardly takes longer than clicking, I can probably launch 4 apps in my dash in about 3 seconds - hit windows key - drag icon 1 - drag icon 2 - drag icon 3 - click icon 4 If I'm really organized it will take sl

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2. I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops. Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this weekend. I have some other work to do. If you don't want to learn a new

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from > > GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that was understo

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every > other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from > GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that was understood. For me, Gnome 3 appears as part of Fedora 13->15 upgrade.

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I never said it was. If you want a "viable, long term choice" then I'd > > HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install > > How viable for me. s/How/Not/ ___ gnome-shell-list mailing

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Denys, Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this > weekend. I have some other work to do. > You do realize that you've spent more time complaining on the ML than it would have taken you to learn the new UI, right? It certainly doesn't look like you have other work to do.

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On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 18:00 -0500, Justin Edwards wrote: > I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would > never want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their > tongue if they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a > list that many people are o

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I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would never want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their tongue if they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a list that many people are on and have talked about issues for years. If you don't like it,

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 05/06/2011 06:37 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 17:36 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so. Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a

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Yeah perfect, thnx it was deactivated! (alt + [key above tab]) now this works like a charm ! 2011/5/6 Aurélien Naldi > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Marc Fouquet wrote: > > > >> I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read > >> about > >> it, but it doesnt work here (ger

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On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Marc Fouquet wrote: > >> I was wondering about the  Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read >> about >> it, but it doesnt work here (german keyboard german language setting, >> self compiled shell on ubuntu natty). > > Same here (german language, Natty, Gnome Shell f

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:06:07PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases. Regarding fallback mode: - there's no promise as to active development - but it should still run fine and at least critical bugs should get fixed - no plan to remove it du

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

> I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read > about > it, but it doesnt work here (german keyboard german language setting, > self compiled shell on ubuntu natty). Same here (german language, Natty, Gnome Shell from PPA). However you can still navigate between multiple w

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 14:06 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases. > At least that's the stated plan. Pointers? I don't remember hearing anybody saying the panel would die, and now that it's got rid of all deprecated dependencies, there's

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:51 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > > I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an > > option, but showed down my throat by force. > > Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation whi

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:20 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > Adam: > Does your GNOME Shell environment provides a "Welcome to Your New > Desktop" kind of thing and then points to gnome3.org for tutorial > videos? No. I don't recall a splash screen. > I am just responding to a post that suggest

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit : > I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an > option, but showed down my throat by force. > Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation which removed the > possibility to have app launch icons in top panes is

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:26 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > > When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. > So many of > > these "

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:36 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:25 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 22:12 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > Nice help page. Just having a look at it for the first time. Ummm > wonder if that's bad... Using Gnome-Shell for over a month now and > only now noticing the help pages... Fantastic; I didn't know it had help pages either [although

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

I can just say right! I was switching to gnome3 (or shell or how is the awesome desktop arrangement actually called) recently and i love it, but you need to be willing to improve your desktop experience! If not dont do it now! I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read about

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 17:36 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote: > Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a > bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so. > > Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a right to be upset, but > your response

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

- Original Message - From: "Adam Tauno Williams" To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 9:44:03 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 A

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g Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 9:44:03 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: > That's the best thing to do and will certainly reduced people > co

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Nice help page. Just having a look at it for the first time. Ummm wonder if that's bad... Using Gnome-Shell for over a month now and only now noticing the help pages... [?] Maybe there's an idea. Have a check box in the help page to open at startup. Then the user can de-select it. (or is t

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 20:59, G. Michael Carter wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Adam Tauno Williams < > awill...@whitemice.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: >> > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: >> >> >> > That's the bes

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: > > > > That's the best thing to do and will certainly reduced people > > complaining the same thing (No taskbar,

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On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 20:44, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: > > > > That's the best thing to do and will certainly reduced people > > complaining the same thing (No taskbar, no

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: > That's the best thing to do and will certainly reduced people > complaining the same thing (No taskbar, no min/max, no power-off, crap > notifications, etc.) Eh? Seriously?

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. - Double post apology

I used Thunderbird earlier, but I have double posts... My apologies. Regards, Allan - Original Message - From: "Allan E. Registos" To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 8:06:45 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Friday, 06 May, 201

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Friday, 06 May, 2011 02:37 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: As someone mentioned earlier, there are extensions that can put a taskbar on your screen or you can use any number of third party apps like Docky or AWN that can give you similar features. My GNOME 3 setup still runs docky because ther

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: I keep doing that... forgetting to hit reply-all, let's try again: Here's a thought. What about a dialog "welcome" box for the first users. (have a check box to go away forever) Then have links or info on how to use Gnome 3? Mayb

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thursday, 05 May, 2011 11:30 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: GNOME 3 is designed to be task oriented and distraction free. I hope this will not compromise the notification area. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 05/05/2011 05:36 PM, Ryan Peters wrote: Also, it's faster to start an application that you didn't add to favorites in GNOME 2 Ack! Error. I meant GNOME 3. My apologies. ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.o

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so. Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a right to be upset, but your responses have been rather rude. Asserting that the designers made the

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > On 5 May 2011 21:44, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally > > better than this :P > > > > sri > > Please don't worry on my account - my fingers tend to write whole > words that my

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 5 May 2011 21:44, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally > better than this :P > > sri Please don't worry on my account - my fingers tend to write whole words that my brain did not specify or miss out ones that it did and I am quite s

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally better than this :P sri On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > >> On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, May 5, 201

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Tim Murphy wrote: > On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy wrote: > > >> There are hidden negatives too - the linux users in my office, for > >> example, tried it and gave up or gave it no chance at a

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy wrote: >> There are hidden negatives too - the linux users in my office, for >> example, tried it and gave up or gave it no chance at all -  they are >> using XFCE or just not updating their distros o

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 11:37 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:08 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko > > > wrote: > >

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 20:29 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I'm a systems administrator I have a ton of windows open, I used to > > use the taskbar, and I don' and it's been okay for me. While > > something was taken away, > Why something has to be taken away? I mean, unconditionally? > There is

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: > > When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. So many of > > these "I don't like Gnome 3" e-mails and they all end the same way. > > Does it ring some sort of bell

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:08 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko > > wrote: > > Is it a policy of Gnome Desktop to shoehorn users into fixed > > UI style > > instead of

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy wrote: > On 5 May 2011 18:55, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: > >> I'll give you a quick answer to that... > >> When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were > >> not upgradin

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:08 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > Is it a policy of Gnome Desktop to shoehorn users into fixed > UI style > instead of offering them reasonable choice? What next, > hardwired windo

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: > I'll give you a quick answer to that... > When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were > not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast. This is ...interesting. Perhaps in new release of busybox I'll switch d

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On 5 May 2011 18:55, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: >> I'll give you a quick answer to that... >> When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were >> not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast. I actually had >> t

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote: > I'll give you a quick answer to that... > When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were > not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast. I actually had > to take a day off work to comb the internet learning abo

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

I keep doing that... forgetting to hit reply-all, let's try again: Here's a thought. What about a dialog "welcome" box for the first users. (have a check box to go away forever) Then have links or info on how to use Gnome 3? Maybe a video giving a quick tutorial? Tips of the day? Then it

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > > Is it a policy of Gnome Desktop to shoehorn users into fixed UI style > instead of offering them reasonable choice? What next, hardwired window > title color and size? > > -- There is no policy as such. As I said earlier, why not try

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